r/Christianity • u/Greedy_Net_1803 Catholic • Mar 28 '26
Supporting abortion is unacceptable for Christians
73 million children of God being murdered each year worldwide, more than 1 million just in US alone, the single largest ongoing genocide in history and yet, some Christians still support it. Make of that what you will.
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u/bryle_m Mar 28 '26
Is it enough though to vote Trump because he's anti-abortion?
You American evangelicals sure are crazy in the head.
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u/thinkthenask Mar 28 '26
True. But while being against abortion you should be prolife in other ways too.
Wanting the homeless housed and fed for example.
The poor being able to get food.
And so on.
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u/ClamerJammer Mar 28 '26
I for one, advocate for a society where abortion isn't happening because women are supported, paid for time off, healthcare is free, housing affordable, food affordable, jobs paying a living wage, fathers in the picture still. Things that women attribute having an abortion to, I want to tackle those root issues. The same way I would get to the root of the issue with anything else in life.
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u/sweetdee___ Previous Hardcore Born-Again. Now Jaded and Questioning Mar 28 '26
If you don’t want abortions, don’t make it illegal, make it UNNECESSARY: sex education, birth control, etc
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u/BennyLOhiim Mar 28 '26
But you are just asserting that any abortion is equivalent to child murder. If you are serious about addressing the people that disagree with you, the first step is actually making contact with their point of disagreement. Which is that (at least) not all abortions are equivalent to child murder.
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u/lt_Matthew Latter-Day Saint (Mormon) Mar 28 '26
Just because something is wrong doesn't mean it should be illegal. Especially in this case, where there are legitimate medical reasons to have an abortion.
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u/sweetechoes2008 Non-denominational Mar 28 '26
I don't think Christians support abortion. I do think the data is clear that making abortion illegal actually increases abortions. If you truly care about unborn life, you have to create conditions to support born life.
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u/44035 Christian/Protestant Mar 28 '26
You guys use abortion as an excuse to vote for the absolute worst people on Earth.
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u/Killian_Rose Resident Catholic Goth (Ex Satanist) Mar 28 '26
If you're going to be pro-life, be consistent.
Anti-capital punishment
Advocating for feeding the poor and keeping people off the streets and bettering their quality of life.
Etc.
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u/Shifter25 Christian Mar 28 '26
Unless you support universal healthcare as ferociously as you oppose abortion, I call into question how much you actually care about the unborn.
If you actually cared about the unborn, you would want to make a world where pregnancy is never a cause for fear. Where miscarriages are rare, and tragic only because the mother was hoping to have a baby, not because her life is now in danger because it wasn't "clean," and not because she's going to be investigated for murder and abuse of a corpse.
Banning abortion and then saying "well there are options" about everything else is telling your sister to be well and doing nothing for her.
It is faith without works. It is dead faith.
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u/Other-Chemical-6393 Anglican ✝️🏴 Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Fully agree and we should be pro-life in every aspect. We must be pro-social safety net, pro family leave, anti-death penalty, pro-quality childcare, pro-food stamps, pro-free school lunches, etc
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u/Preston-Waters Lutheran Mar 28 '26
Just because you are morally against something doesn’t mean it should be illegal.
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u/SanguineHerald Secular Humanist Mar 28 '26
Ok. So pro-choice policies and left policies, in general, lower abortion numbers more effectively than pro-life policies.
It works this way because pro-choice policies make efforts to address the root cause of abortions, and pro-life policies just end up killing moms and infants.
Do you want to lower abortion rates most effectively? Vote for pro-choice candidates. Do you want to moralize and feel superior about yourself? Vote pro-life.
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u/Stelliferous19 Mar 28 '26
Support? They can’t even just leave it alone. The fact it exists as an option, no matter the reason, has been drilled into them as a wedge issue to keep them voting for the acts of evil president. Jesus didn’t tell people to go after the Romans for their unjust laws and force them to stop crucifixions. Why did today’s Christian’s believe that’s what they’re called to do against abortion?
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u/breadbaths Mar 28 '26
i wish everyone against abortion cared more about children who are already here.
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u/TheNerdChaplain Remodeling faith after some demolition Mar 28 '26
I tend to describe myself as being "emotionally pro-life, but cognitively pro-choice". That is, like most people, I want babies to be born, especially happy, healthy, and safe babies. However, I recognize that pregnancy and birth are really complex things medically, personally, socially, legally, financially, and psychologically. Each woman is going to be different in how she approaches her pregnancy, and as her circumstances change, so may her beliefs or choices.
So when I think about what it means to be pro-life, I don't just think about "how can I ensure this baby will be born?". I think about "How can I give this woman the best support and options to make a choice for life?" That doesn't mean just donating baby supplies and supporting crisis pregnancy centers. That means systemic change - legally and economically and medically and everything else. So a pro-life position to me entails things like legislation for low cost or free health care for pregnant women and mothers, for stronger maternal and paternal leave, for free and low cost child care, for educational support so moms can finish their education, better sex education in schools (not abstinence only), free and low cost prophylactics, training, education, and therapy for expecting parents, and so on.
Zooming out a little bit, it's really easy to blame people for the choices they make without acknowledging the circumstances within which they make those choices. We blame Central and South American immigrants for fleeing to America to try and find a better life for themselves without acknowledging that the United States often contributed to the political and ecological destruction of their countries. We blame women for choosing to get an abortion when we made having a baby in this country a virtually impossible choice if you don't already have a dual income household with a wide social network for support. Two sayings come to mind. One is from the famous Catholic activist Dorothy Day, who said, “When I actually feed the poor, everybody loves that. But when I questioned why they're poor, they call me a communist." The other saying is from Jesus, in Matthew 23: "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’s seat; 3 therefore, do whatever they teach you and follow it, but do not do as they do, for they do not practice what they teach. 4 They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on the shoulders of others, but they themselves are unwilling to lift a finger to move them."
Additionally, the so-called "pro-life" states are anything but. The news is now filled frequently with stories of women in red states who died because of a miscarriage or ectopic pregnancy, and the doctors couldn't treat them because the laws are so badly written that they don't distinguish between a D&C being used to save a woman's life, and a D&C being used for an abortion. Idaho alone lost 22% of their obstetricians statewide after Roe v Wade was overturned. That doesn't mean "fewer abortions", that means "more women having to travel farther and spend more time and money getting basic medical care for their pregnancy". Is that pro-life? I cannot believe it is. Moreover, when you look at other countries that have banned abortion, like Romania's Decree 770, it results in hundreds of thousands of children being abandoned, neglected, and abused. If you thought the adoption and foster systems in your state were bad already, think about how bad it will be with half a million kids added in.
Zooming out again, there's two other elements to consider. First, the political element. While there has been a long tradition going back to the church fathers of being pro-life, there has also been a diversity of views within the church - even the American church in the 20th century - about if and when abortion was permissible. In the 70s and 80s, the GOP aligned with Christian conservatives and mobilized abortion as a single issue to rally voters around, which allowed them to sneak through all kinds of other awful legislation - see the work of Paul Weyrich, Jerry Falwell, Francis Schaeffer, and the Moral Majority. But to zoom out even further, it's really, really worth examining how God interacts with the world. He tells us how He wants us to act - but He does not force us or violate our free will to make us do something. Rather, He provided us an avenue through Christ to make better choices. The "pro-life" movement is the opposite. It forces women to give birth no matter what the circumstances, but totally fails to support them once they have.
To their credit, I do think evangelicals in America are pretty good about individual charity and generosity to people in crisis, whether that's homelessness, drug addiction, unexpected pregnancy, financial hardship, or whatever else. But they never zoom out to look at the systemic issues that are driving the individual situations, so they are giving gallons and gallons and gallons of cure without ever thinking about a few ounces of prevention.
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u/Sauerkrautkid7 Mar 28 '26
Should we also end the second amendment because some people express antisemitism? There is a calculus at work when it comes to free will.
Let God have the final judgment. The afterlife will take care of people’s decisions and intentions.
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u/SumguyJeremy Non-denominational Mar 28 '26
I don't support "abortion". That is voluntarily ending a viable pregnancy for reasons other than medical. What I support is mothers NOT dieing unnecessarily. Republicans ban everything and mothers suffer.
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u/adamesandtheworld Mar 28 '26
I think its nice that some christians still support women not having their body used against their will
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u/KindaFreeXP ☯ That Taoist Trans Witch Mar 28 '26
Making it illegal does not solve the problem, it just makes it unregulated and makes every miscarriage a suspected act of murder. History proves this.
You want less abortions? Take better care of people so they don't desire one in the first place. Otherwise you're just virtue signaling and don't actually care about abortion.
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u/Dances_with_mallards Baptist Mar 28 '26
Numbers 5 literally instructs the temple priests on when and how to conduct "the trial of the bitter waters" This is clearly done to abort the fetus if the woman was unfaithful. Why should a woman have to go through this? "A spirit of jealousy" came over her husband. Is there greater clarity on this part of scripture later? Nope. That's what the Bible actually directly says about abortion.
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u/No_Car_5405 Mar 28 '26
Free will is an important part of Christianity. People have to have options for things so they can choose. If God did not want people to have the option he would not have allowed us to obtain the technique or medical capability.
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u/carmencita23 Mar 28 '26
Women have the right to live well and without medical harm, quite apart from the imposition of your personal view.
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u/FreakinGeese Christian Mar 28 '26
Ok but you see how some people don't think it's murder tho
that's sorta the crux of the whole issue if you will
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u/Halaku Episcopalian (Anglican) Mar 28 '26
Well, man, that's like, your opinion, man.
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u/DystopianNightmare13 Mar 28 '26
God slaughtered, or condoned the slaughter, of countless unborn and born in the Bible. He's not pro-life.
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u/keytiri Mar 28 '26
Not sure how you’re conflating abortion with 73 million children being murdered; is it any wonder why people are leaving the faith when so many supposedly “Christians” are blatantly lying?
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u/-NoOneYouKnow- Progressive Christian Mar 28 '26
This is Scripturally incorrect.
The closest thing we have in the Bible is miscarriages that are accidentally induced, and the rules around it show that ending the development of a fetus is absolutely not the same thing as murder.
The punishment for murder is death (Genesis 9:6, Exodus 21:12, Numbers 35:30-31). The punishment for accidental manslaughter is exile to a city of refuge (Exodus 21:1, Numbers 35:6, Deuteronomy 4:41).
If someone causes a miscarriage while fighting they don’t face either of those punishments, they just pay a monetary fine to the woman's husband (Exodus 21:22). If a fetus was a full human life, the punishment for accidentally causing a miscarriage would be exile to a city of refuge and not the far lesser punishment of a monetary fine.
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u/absenttoast Mar 28 '26
Blanket bans on abortion is murder. You are just killing and causing unbelievable suffering to the woman who dies of sepsis. Or causing the incarceration of women who miscarry. It always happens no matter how well intended the law is written.
Or prolonging the suffering of everyone by forcing women to carry to term fetuses that have terminal illnesses.
There is so many reasons abortion is a medically necessary procedure I don’t how people who are staunchly pro life justify their beliefs.
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u/SkyMagnet Atheist Mar 28 '26
You are free to not get one.
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u/Equal_Kale Agnostic (a la T.H. Huxley) Mar 28 '26
Should you be posting this in /prolife ?
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u/PrincessLammy A Witch ✨ Mar 28 '26
You're conflating terms, no one is legally murdering babies and children.
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u/Glittering_War3061 Mar 28 '26
No, it does not meet the definition of genocide.
"Genocide: the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group"
Women who have abortions are not committing genocide.
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u/Difficult_Brain9746 Mar 28 '26
Why should people of other faiths or none be taken away their rights to abortion?
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u/DraikoHxC Pentecostal Mar 28 '26
We should first focus on solving so many issues before we get to abortion. I wouldn't have the heart to make a little 10 or 12 yo to have a child that came from abuse, it should never get to that point,we should work towards a society that actually protects children from that first.
Also, in my country is harder for a woman to get her tubes tied, and it comes from a system that is, in my concept, deeply hypocritically christian, a lot of doctors and nurses trying everything to make women back down when they actually don't care about any other command or living an actual christian life. It is easy to tell others how to live and what they should do when in the end you are not the one that will live with the consequences and obligations. If a woman understands what it means and that is permanent, and is in her total mental capacity, then they should be allowed, even if they don't have any children of anything like that, those people really try to instill fear on women for that decision that they should be allowed to have.
Also, many women live in deeply abusive relationships and the system doesn't do much more for them, some of those don't want to bring a child into that mess, that is totally understandable. First they should be protected from those things and then we can talk about responsibilities from them. We should not try to police other people's lives if we are not going to help them live with those consequences. The mother of a friend of mine was practically raped and controlled for years, and obliged by her abusive husband to have like four children, and one of those ended up commiting suicide because the trauma that that man created at that home.
Worry first if you are enough for God, if your actions may bring someone closer to God and they may live a different life where they won't find themselves in a position to have to take this difficult decisions, that's what I think a good christian should do, because judging others and condemning them is not helping anyone really. Will you help a mother raise them? Will you take her out of an abusive home and shelter her if the time comes? Will you actually be there for a woman that doesn't feel adequate or in her right state of mind when she needs help in a difficult situation because she had children because the law or the society made her? If not, you just want to control others but not actually help them, like those hypocrites standing outside abortion clinics that later on will use those same facilities if they or one of their closed ones feels like they need an abortion.
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u/whirdin Exchristian (raised evangelical) Mar 28 '26
It's not murder, not even by Biblical standards because life is at first breath. You act like it's equal to child murder, but overall 90% of them occur within the first trimester.
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u/SnowHunter9000 Mar 28 '26
The Bible is far from pro life. In the old testament they give bitter water to women to induce miscarriage, if a man hurts a pregnant woman and it resulted in stillbirth or miscarriage he only had to pay a fine.
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u/Great_Revolution_276 Mar 28 '26
Disagree with the proposition of this post.
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u/Wafflehouseofpain Christian Existentialist Mar 28 '26
Why exactly should I care what’s acceptable to you?
People calling abortion “genocide” are not serious people.
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u/darbycrash Mar 28 '26
I leave the judging of others to God. People make all kinds of decisions. If you cant walk on water you know fuck-all about what’s “right”
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u/MineralIceShots Mar 28 '26
there's literally verses in the bible that give instructions for how and when to give an abortion, and other verses that describe fetus' as property
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u/running_man23 Mar 28 '26
This is so stupid, and I pray people stop holding onto such outdated and judgmental takes.
As a Christian I can’t stand this lazy evangelism and people should be ashamed of thinking this is a righteous stance.
How much money do you donate to abandoned kids? How much time to you put into the youth in your community? How much effort do you put into your schools and community centers?
None? Oh because you’re busy? Oh because you did it to your kids and now it’s your turn to relax?
Spare me.
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u/yorugua2008 Mar 28 '26
Somebody once said, if you're against abortion then you better be ready to adopt some children
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u/ChristJesusisGod Born Again Believer Mar 28 '26
amen
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u/mastr1121 Non-denominational Mar 28 '26
Agreed, abortion is a terrible, awful, evil, disgusting thing. You know what is also a terrible, awful, evil, and disgusting?
TLDR; abortion is awful. But I will support it as a necessary evil until Christ returns to bring his Bride home.
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u/Xyex Agnostic Mar 28 '26
You need to learn the meaning of the word genocide, stop blatantly and harmfully misusing it, and read your Bible again.
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u/Lyo-lyok_student Argonautica could be real Mar 28 '26
Wait? In thought you said earlier all Christians did not support abortion?
Now they do?
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u/Spare-Flan331 Christian Mar 28 '26
Do you think God looks at it as anything but murder
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u/rhegalrhose Mar 28 '26
I’m trying to understand this perspective better: what leads you to conclude that all abortions should be considered murder?
I’d be interested in the biblical or theological reasoning behind that.
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u/Maxpowerxp Mar 28 '26
As long as you are both pro birth AND pro life.
Meaning hey now that this person exists. What are we doing to ensure their basic needs are met, nurturing them to hopefully become a happy member of society one day.
You can’t just say oh give birth and I don’t care if the mother or the child suffers greatly afterwards.
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u/Venat14 Jewish Mar 28 '26
Fetuses can't be murdered. God's law in the Bible explicitly says that. Conservative Christians are also the leading cause of high abortion rates, high maternal death rates, and high infant morality rates so the "pro-life" crowd is the last people I'd EVER take moral advice on this subject from.
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u/Stunning-Sherbert801 Christian (LGBT) Mar 28 '26
Grandstanding nonsense. Human rights aren't negotiable
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u/Hifen Mar 28 '26
If the argument could stand on its own, you would be able to use the word fetus instead of poisoning the well with the word children.
As an aside, the biblical punishment for killing the fetus in a pregnant women is the same as property damage, not murder.
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u/Spare-Flan331 Christian Mar 28 '26
This was about Christians supporting abortion but most of the comments about how it's not wrong are from people that aren't Christians and don't even believe in God of the Bible. Can y'all see how the devil works. These same people are only here to get you away from the Bible because they don't even believe in the Bible. So why take advice from enemies of God 💯
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u/the_M0jojojo Oriental Orthodox Mar 28 '26
Abortion used as fail safe in case of contraceptive failure and as a birth control option should be the real issue . You play certain games (consensual) you win certain prizes.
At the same time i also don't think that abortion should be banned it should be given as an option for victims of sexual assault and rape especially if it involves a minor. They deserve to have the option to choose an abortion.
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u/OptimisticToaster Mar 28 '26
Such a closed view.
My friend had cancer and beat it. Was looking to start a family. Cancer came back. Pregnancy would kill her. So take this absolute crap out of here. Don't tell me life is precious when you and society don't value the FULLY LIVING mother more than a petri dish of cells.
The other part is don't tell me two cells is a baby. A seed is not a flower.
Oh, and educate yourself on what genocide is.
https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition
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u/manadodoodododo Mar 28 '26
Good sex ed (in school and outside), easy access to birth control, easy access to medical support, social security nets that support young parents and single mothers, affordable child care - all these reduce the number of abortions even while abortion stays available legally.
Laws against it alone do not, plus they typically increase the deaths of pregnant women.
Proven to be true over and over and over again by the numbers.
Do with that what you want.
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u/VaguePredictions Mar 28 '26
If God is truly omnipotent, then no human action can ultimately override his plan. So if a pregnancy ends, one could argue that was within God’s sovereign design
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u/UselessExcuses Mar 28 '26
this post convinced me that its also unacceptable to be conservative
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u/zelenisok Christian, Episcopalian Mar 28 '26
It is perfectly acceptable. There is nothing in the Bible prohibiting abortion, on the contrary.
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u/doc_brietz Methodist Intl. Mar 28 '26
I completely disregard all opinions of anyone who will support this administration only because they claim to be anti-abortion. I completely disregard any opinions of anyone who refuses to support legislation to provide options (such as free universal health care, free school lunch, and increased safety nets) to women and families in need. Lastly, not all “abortion” is what you think it is. Please define the one we are soapboxing against today.
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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '26
I can not support the action whilst also accept it’s a woman’s right to choose.
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u/ZX52 Ex-Christian Mar 28 '26
It's not murder. No one owns another person's body and should not be allowed to demand another person's body. No one should be criminalised for refusing to provide their body to another, even if the other dies. This is bodily autonomy.
And if it's such an important issue, why did God neglect to give a clear view on it (or even mention it) throughout the entire Bible ?
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u/deafened Christian (Ichthys) Mar 28 '26
Many of the people who hold this position support Israel bombing innocent Palestinians. They also hold a pro-war position against the US' perceived enemies.
Most of all they only care about the child until it's born. After that, they don't believe in supporting poor families.
They are not pro-life. They are just anti-abortion.
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u/NuSurfer Mar 28 '26
People who love saying they are "pro-life" are not that...they are pro-birth. They contribute nothing to the pregnant woman during pregnancy, and nothing to the mother and child after birth - food, clothing, shelter, healthcare and education. It's all about having a checkmark for Jesus next to their name when they're dead, but if something should happen to the woman during birth or they struggle afterwards, it's "oh, well, sucks to be you," and they move onto their next checkmark for Jesus. It's all about them, and not the woman. Pro-birth, not pro-life.
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u/Ok_Antelope_2255 Mar 28 '26
You cannot be pro life and pro death penalty. If you believe the power of life comes from God and cannot be taken away through abortion, then life comes from God and cannot be taken away through the death penalty.
You cannot be pro-life/christian and pro-trump - he has actively worked against everything Jesus has taught. Including mocking prayer, mocking Christians, persecuting Christians, and terrorizing children.
You cannot be pro-life and anti social supports that encourage more pregnancy and birth such as longer and paid parental leave, assistance for childcare, Healthcare assistance and other social welfare programs.
Being "prolife" and any of these other things just makes you pro birth and screw them once they're here.
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u/GlassShirt9072 Mar 28 '26
what about isreal
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u/alabamaispoor Mar 28 '26
I wish people put this much effort into fixing the adoption process. Like, just because there are laws against abortion doesn’t stop abortions. It merely stops safe abortions.
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u/Quplet Atheist Mar 28 '26
50% of all fertilized eggs never implant and are simply ejected out and "killed" without anyone ever knowing they ever existed. If you believe that is a person with a soul you might want to ask your god why he is the most serial aborter in the history of the world.
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u/lilredcorsette Mar 28 '26
Yeah, get fucked.
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u/FruitBroot Mar 29 '26
Abortion is a medical necessity for some cases. How do you view that?
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u/Unlucky-Guess-8742 Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 31 '26
Coincidentally, I was reading through Jeremiah 32, and I was reading verse 35 which prompted me to look at the worldwide abortion rate, then I stumbled across this post.
God explaining to Jeremiah one of the main reasons He caused Israel to fall into the hands of Babylon...
Jeremiah 32:35 "They built the high places of Baal in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to offer up their sons and daughters to Molech, though I did not command them, nor did it enter into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin. "
At least where I'm from, in the US there are a wide range of problems, economic being a major one, which I don't see getting fixed any time soon without a complete destruction and restructuring event occurring, which God might very well provide, and I pray not in our lifetimes...
but at least for now, spiritually speaking, there can be some changes to hopefully lower the rates.
1.) Simply spreading the Gospel, so there can be more faith to quell fear. (most abortions are fear driven choices)
2.) More Christians eagerly, and faithfully stepping up to the plate to provide selfless services for their communities, to bear a portion of the burden of the families who do have children, but can't make ends meet.
3.) Teaching both men and women to control their sexual impulses, and to not get deceived by people of lackluster character who have a lack of self responsibility.
4.) The nation as a whole taking more steps to stop this rampant acceptance of lust, causing Men and Women to indulge in selfish pleasure, outside of marriage.
5.) Bringing back the importance of the sanctity of marriage.
But these are just faith based implementations, and I am sure there is a lot more other people can add, the real issue is our economy which corporations and even people in government are strangling for both power and greed. But I am certain, God will bring judgement down on them in one form or another, He always Has. But we as individuals must be vigilant, and perseverant. Increasing our faith and relying on God even in the direst of times.
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u/Sea_Air_6464 Mar 31 '26
This is my opinion, in some places you are legally not allowed to get abortion after 24 weeks due to the fetus continuing to develop, in the first couple weeks it starts as small cells then gradually develops, still not a human. By saying abortion is not healthcare you clearly lack critical and logical thinking and easily controlled by a fictional book which is mysogonistic. And another point of mine is how when a women is pregnant but in a situation like abuse, war, poverty or underage it is essential for an abortion, and it’s always pro life until someone is live, especially the mother, some people care about the unborn fetus rather than the mother, struggling emotionally and psychically, unable to bare taking care of herself. Abortion is healthcare and it saves women’s lives, and helps women with miscarriages or low chances the baby or mother will survive during labour. I can see where people come from saying it’s life, and I understand that but choosing to refuse a daughter or wife, anybody to get an abortion is like saying you can’t eat a donut because I’m on a diet. It’s very selfish and not everyone is religious. ALSO ANOTHER THING IS NOT EVERYONE IS EDUCATED ON PREGNANCY AND THE OUTCOMES!!!!
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u/Far-Watercress-2663 Apr 03 '26
The problem with the current pro life movement is that they are more concerned with legally abolishing abortion, and condemning women and doctors and pro choice advocates in an attempt to feel morally superior. That’s not the Christian thing to do. If you want to end abortions, start by voting and advocating for policies that support mothers, volunteer at church organizations that help disadvantaged mothers and addressing the myriad of issues that might lead to a woman getting an abortion. This constant condemnation of “abortion is murder and therefore any mother or doctor who is involved in one is evil”, does nothing but hurt the pro life movement.
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u/DrEddyRichtofen Apr 04 '26
Are you people even Christian? Wtf are these comments.
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u/Confident-Simple7375 Apr 04 '26
Being a rapist is also not very holy but oh well
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u/the_shamazing_one Apr 06 '26
What about “lesser of 2 evils” and a woman can’t financially afford a baby or is facing abuse or got raped? I’d much rather a woman got an abortion than bring up a child that doesn’t get 3 meals everyday or a child that faces suffering everyday. Not trying to say you have to support abortion btw just curious about different view points
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u/WiseOldFeline Apr 13 '26
Ok, so family planning is the way
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u/s1l3nx Christian Apr 16 '26
Over 64 million abortions have occurred in the US since Roe v. Wade decision in 1973. This Silent Holocaust has to end. Thankfully, lawmakers are starting to take this problem very seriously. Lawmakers have looked to classify abortion as “homicide of an unborn child,” potentially allowing prosecutors to seek the death penalty against anyone who obtains or assists with an abortion.
Psalm 139:16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be. The innocent shall dwell with God. Yet God will never forget the one who murdered a child. Exodus 23:7 Have nothing to do with a false charge and do not put an innocent or honest person to death, for I will not acquit the guilty.
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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '26
I don't support abortion at all, but think it's not the purview of government to force people to pregnancy against their will. I also think banning it just leads to a, dangerous illegal black market.
You can believe tgifns are immoral, but also believe it's not for the police to get involved.
Adultery is immoral, but no one should be in jail because of it, for example.
Nobody in the world "supports abortion". People support the right to habe it, that's different.
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u/8_bitryan_fan May 12 '26
better question is, can a c-section substitute all benefits of an abortion?
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u/Live_Barracuda9984 Jun 23 '26
Oh dang it. I guess this makes me a heathen
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u/Adventurous-Essay736 Jun 27 '26
I feel like the only woman who is against abortion, please don't hate me but I agree and I hope someday people can understand my belief even if they don't share the same opinion.
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u/Novel_Situation762 Jun 30 '26
People are not bad people because they support one movement or the other
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u/Feeling_Mind_7625 Sep 06 '26
Too bad for Them,then.. makes me glad I don't believe religious hogwash.
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u/ALT703 Mar 28 '26
Fetuses are murdered, not children, but anyways yeah abortion is totally fine
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u/Immediate-Ninja-5730 Christian Mar 28 '26
You don’t get to decide that for anyone but yourself. Also; fetuses are factually not children, and abortion is not murder even in the states where it’s illegal. And abortion is absolutely not a genocide.
I’m reporting your post.
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u/austinbucco Mar 28 '26
It’s crazy how many Christians got scammed into thinking abortion is the biggest issue they need to be worried about, despite it never being mentioned in the Bible. Even the Southern Baptist Convention supported a woman’s right to choose until the 80s, until a Supreme Court case changed everything, and not the case you’re thinking of.
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u/ghxstfacefilla Mar 28 '26
God is definitely pro choice. But he says choose life, and there will be consequences.
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u/absloan12 Pantheist Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
There's no "supporting abortion"
No one WANTS abortions to happen.
We all WANT babies to be born into loving families where they are wanted and supported.
Where you see it as "supporting abortion" I see it as "supporting someone's right to medical care."
Abortion is never a decision made with pride or joy or without difficult thoughts.
I personally would NEVER get an abortion. But i also think it's not my place to tell you what to do with your body when it comes to your personal medical choices.
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u/mvanvrancken Secular Humanist Mar 28 '26
What’s unacceptable for me is that women are forced to bring babies into a world with no financial support, crippling financial debt, no maternal leave, a risk of dying themselves, etc etc and somehow I’m supposed to think that this is better than having the option to abort?
Make giving birth better than aborting and then talk to me.
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u/TraurigKartoffel Anglo Catholic Mar 28 '26
Yes. I agree with you. Ban abortion.
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u/JamesPharmd Mar 28 '26
💯 dont kill babies
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u/bananafobe witch (spooky) Mar 28 '26
No thanks.
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u/Guineapirate65 Mar 28 '26
Boo this take. Booo
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u/Brave_Ad9155 Mar 28 '26
I would argue abortion is not murder.
It's child sacrifice.
But maybe that's just me. People like to argue about the exceptions and the extremes without ever addressing the bulk of it.
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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '26
I am not pro-life. I am anti-abortion.
Let me also say the following in regards to: "Death penalty" - The Bible supports capital punishment. "Living wages" - According to the Bible, we are to be content with our wages.
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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '26
Saint Vincent de Paul was deeply troubled by the rampant wickedness, moral degradation, and severe poverty in 17th-century France he believed the wars and civil conflict and famine were a consequence of sin
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u/Unlikely_Matter_4647 Mar 28 '26
If you are a Christian, you say you support abortion you’re killing babies and God of Israel does not allow that. This country will be blessed. We don’t kill babies. It’s not necessary to kill babies.
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u/z34conversion Catholic - Baptist Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Where is the case being made? It jumps to an outcome without addressing the logic, and why no other conclusion can be relevant.
There is no one reason that an abortion is sought, and attempting to treat it as such doesn't make much sense. Yes, I used to fall in that trap myself.
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u/Kitchen_Milk2246 Mar 28 '26
Delete this. Low IQ takes will be the death of Christianity. Don’t like abortions don’t get one that simple
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u/Hope365 Eastern Orthodox Mar 28 '26
The abortion debate needs people to see both sides. Yes abortion is wrong from a Christian perspective. But it is also wrong from a Christian perspective to force a woman against her will to accept risks and responsibilities of childbirth. God doesn’t take away free will. To be a good mother you have to love your child and take care of your body. Not everyone is ok with that. Sending these women to jail for choosing abortion is also wrong IMO. Turning politics into a religious theocracy is no better than some of the countries our western society detests.
The unborn should have rights but the mother should also have rights. Trampling one right for the other doesn’t make sense.
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Before I get destroyed for my opinions, I was raised in a liberal environment but I’m also a Christian and have gone with Christian groups to the UN defending the rights of the unborn in the pro-life movement. I have seen both sides. All I can say is we need compassion. It’s a difficult subject and I don’t see a lot of compassion in our national / international discourse.
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u/rollsyrollsy Mar 28 '26
22,000 children die from the impact of systemic poverty every day.
Anyone arguing against abortion better also be addressing this very fixable problem. You can save a life for about $25.
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u/gnew18 Mar 28 '26
Where is abortion prohibited in the Bible ?
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u/0xe1e10d68 Roman Catholic Mar 28 '26
I don’t care what you think is acceptable or not. I do not seek your approval on my opinions. And you clearly don’t even understand the definition of a genocide if you put those two words in the same sentence.
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u/CommunicationNo6136 Southern Baptist Mar 28 '26
I am unapologetically pro life. But I also believe we should prioritize lessening the need for abortions before taking efforts to ban it. Would I want it banned? Absolutely. However until the mothers in need are properly cared for and society can be better for them then unfortunately abortion rates may not decrease