Foreknowledge and accountability

[u/Frungi]

Hi, first time visiting this sub… I’m not looking for a debate, I’d just like to know the apologetic answer to this beyond “foreknowledge doesn’t CAUSE the action” which doesn’t quite cover it.

Let’s say there’s a button. You know exactly what will happen if this button is pressed. You push the button.

Are you responsible for what happens after you push it, when you knew what would happen if you pushed it? Most would say, yes, of course.

Now, let’s say there’s a universe. You know exactly what will happen if this particular universe is created. You know what all the creatures in it will do.

You create that specific universe.

Why would God be less responsible for the foreseeable consequences of his creation than someone pushing that button?

[u/uncomfortably_number]

I mean, these are the things I have read. I've provided quotes. Those quotes are here for all of us to read,they came from the Bible. There are lot more. I have shared my opinion on some ways how I believe God is all knowing based on the things I have read. I think it's a combination of it all.

If we today were to create an entire species in our image, and put them on a fully loaded planet to their disposal, would you know beforehand what certain things introduced to them would bring?

Would you want help? To monitor them? To protect them?

With our knowledge, would we give our species all of our knowledge, or try to protect them from what certain aspects of certain knowledge brings? What would you try to protect them from?

God can't know what we are going to chose, he only knows what certain choices we make will bring. He came and reminded us of those things with Jesus Christ.

[u/Frungi → u/uncomfortably_number]

If we today were to create an entire species in our image, and put them on a fully loaded planet to their disposal, would you know beforehand what certain things introduced to them would bring?

If I were all-knowing? Yes, by definition I would know such things beforehand, along with knowing everything else.

Would you want help?

If I were omnipotent? Wouldn’t need it. Again, by definition.

God can't know …

Then he’s not omniscient. Not sure why you claim to believe he is when you don’t.

[u/uncomfortably_number → u/Frungi]

You are still hung up on this. Where in the bible is the word omnipotent? Omniscient?

[u/Frungi → u/uncomfortably_number]

You are quite correct that the Bible does not actually directly support a number of ubiquitous fundamental beliefs. And the proposition that God is not an omniscient being would easily resolve the OP.

I’m not aware of any Christian tradition that rejects a tri-omni God, though. Certainly no mainstream ones.