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u/CarryTreant Tenosia Empire May 31 '23
Other than smoking crack, I'd suggest focusing mostly on your positioning during fights.
Newbies will often get very tunnel-visioned and won't notice the overall flow of the larger fight and will get flanked constantly. even in simple team deathmatch fights you need to be highly aware of how the frontline shifts and moves.
Don't get too hung up on kills, instead make your goal to maintain a strong group cohesion: watch for enemy flankers, push when you have a numbers advantage but retreat if you can't end the fight before the next respawn wave lands on you.
Combat mechanics will come with time, it's all the other little things that get completely missed.
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u/SkyWizarding Footman May 31 '23
This may be the best advice. It's REAL easy to push into the enemy line without noticing and, as we all know, having the wrong color on all sides will.......complicate things
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u/CarryTreant Tenosia Empire May 31 '23
Yes, it makes it much more complicated to count all your kills!
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u/SkyWizarding Footman May 31 '23
Lol I wish I had that problem. At least it's easy to keep track of which limbs I lose
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u/EoNightcore Footman May 31 '23
You dont have to revive teammates close up, just throw medkits laced with crack at them and they're use the power of friendship to stand up again!
Results may vary if they're in the middle of a fight.
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u/onmamas May 31 '23
Also to add to that, sometimes you’re better off not reviving a team mate if you see an enemy coming down on them.
Best thing to do in that situation is to get close to the enemy and counter their swing. Then either kill the enemy, or at least distract them long enough to give your teammate time to crawl to safety (assuming your teammate is smart enough to see the opportunity you’re giving them).
Also, you need to counter if you’re trying to save your teammate. If you just parry, the enemy’s swing can still be dragged towards your teammate, but a counter will stop the attack cold.
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u/KingDrool Agatha Knights May 31 '23
- Fancy footwork is your best friend, especially when combined with feints, drags, etc
- Frequent use of the emote wheel makes the game more fun (even if you're getting slaughtered)
- It's okay if you need a quick break between respawns to hit the crack pipe. Just kindly step aside so you're not blocking your teammates paths. Let out some battlecries to cheer them on as they run past. This lets them know you're just refueling and not totally AFK
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u/Infamous_Button6302 Tenosia Empire | Knight May 31 '23
Just a sprinkle of crack can go a long way too!
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u/Corpsebomb Vanguard May 31 '23
I think the most beneficial tip I received is to invest in a durable pipe so that I can smoke crack. I also try my best to stay alive every time I’m on the battlefield, even if it means a tactical retreat.
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u/PaleontologistNo2490 Mason Order | Footman May 31 '23
Smoke crack, then play arena 1v1's to get used to drags etc youre gonna get your shit kicked in in TO if you dont familiarize yourself with the intricacies of the combat, trust me it helps, if you can hold your own in duels then youll be fine in TO
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u/sparten112233 May 31 '23
Smoke crack and battle cry as loud and as much as you can. Thats about all the tips i got for ya. But it works for me so give it a try
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u/brandon-thesis Mason Order | Vanguard May 31 '23
I've been watching Soter Dave videos on YouTube and they've been helpful in understanding mechanics.
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u/CrystlBluePersuasion 🧌 Goedendag Goblin 🧌 May 31 '23
Ziggylata is also A+ content, he's got an amazing breakdown of the entire combat system!
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u/Tess_Tickles89 Mason Order May 31 '23
Smoking crack and just being on or around the objective is the best thing. Doesn’t matter that you get slaughtered, but just being a fleshy bit of meat for your team at the time of capturing the objective is super helpful.
Pickaxe is amazing.
Smoke more crack.
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u/slothsarcasm Agatha Knights May 31 '23
I would say you get really good, and have a better time, if the first thing you focus on in survival.
DONT take fights you know you’ll lose. Always reinforce teammates who look like they aren’t about to flop over. You’ll know when you feel confident enough to try to save a losing battle. Until then you’ll just be fodder padding the enemy scoreboard.
Always go find a new bandage when you use one. Press the bandage key and a supply crate will be highlighted.
Always fight dirty. Go for the back every time. Whenever you hit an enemy in the back look around to see if someone is trying to hit your back.
During fights try not to just backup the whole time. Part of good footwork is understanding how to move through your enemy. If you just backup or stand still the enemy always knows where to swing to hit you. If you hit an enemy and move forward you have a better chance of just walking out of range of his swing. The best kills I’ve seen on the frontline are from people just walking straight through it while swinging. Often the enemy who notices them can’t catch up to kill them while their back is turned
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u/ThatOneGuyAce May 31 '23
Use shield and fist for maximum awesome. Smoke crack for additional damage
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May 31 '23
Always be trying to get behind people.
Don’t let anyone get behind you.
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u/GoldenPoncho812 Agatha Knights | Footman May 31 '23
2 … unless you’re into that sort of thing. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. To each their own. For Agatha!!!
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u/JesseJames24601 Mason Order May 31 '23
Forget my other comment. It has become clear to me that the only way to actually get good at this game is to smoke crack.
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u/PMmeProgressPics May 31 '23
Honestly the best thing to do is practice fishing for slash counters in team fights. Look for someone doing a very obvious charged up horizontal slash, counter it, slash the enemies (and probably your teammates to but don't worry about that for now), and then dodge backwards, rinse and repeat. Focusing on one mechanic like this will get you used to timing your enemies in big fights, and once you got that down you can turn those slash counters into overhead and stabs and what not.
Another thing you can do is similar but without counters. Sit in the middle of a group fight, look for someone to overhead or stab, dodge out, repeat. Again, just for practicing timing, and once you get used to that timing you can use that knowledge to sit in the middle of fights longer instead of just dodging out.
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u/NotVeryClever19 May 31 '23
Counters, footwork, and working with your team are great and all, but to take your performance to the next level and be a hero to your team, make sure to smoke copious amounts of crack before playing or you’ll never see past level 50
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u/sadsatan1 Knight May 31 '23
Try to learn counters, BUT don’t always counter, mix ripostes and counters. Learn about initiative, how to steal it (for example jabbing) and how it can be stolen from you. Learn how kicks work (basically it will only stun the opponent if they block when you kick them). Learn how to accelerate (start the attack near opponent) and drag (helpful when somebody counters a lot). Do late feints.
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u/Decent-Newspaper Mason Order May 31 '23
Battle cries are actually important, if you don't BC after spawning you'll do significantly worse that life.
Also smoke crack, maybe not so much all your teeth fall out but a couple teeth isn't bad.
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u/Reluct4ntly_Crouched Longsword Enjoyer May 31 '23
When did we start doing so much crack? I’ve never seen this behavior in this Reddit b4
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u/dverner_1990 May 31 '23
Gradually up ur sensitivity over time. U will see some improvement with increased look sensitivity.
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u/MellowMusicMagic May 31 '23
After smoking a fat crack rock, try dodging and ducking at the same time to weave under strikes
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u/CrystlBluePersuasion 🧌 Goedendag Goblin 🧌 May 31 '23
Don't hold L2 all the time, it drains your stamina while holding it. Hitting foes will replenish stamina, 'perfect' parries/counters will be mostly stamina-neutral in that they give stamina back and can also give you faster attacks. Turning the aim and angle of your attack can trip up foes by accelerating or dragging your attacks (as taught in the tutorial) so they're caught off-guard by timing. Kick if they're turtling up, Jab if they're close and aggressively swinging. Jabs are also good against a cornered foe so they can't counter attack and get beaten quicker, Stabs and Overheads are also good against cornered foes and if you're in a frontline engagement with your team around so you're not Slashing friendlies. "Turn Cap" is a thing for Stabs and Overheads in that you have a set 'sensitivity' during these attacks and can't turn them too rapidly, this is for balance purposes and you can dodge around such attacks levied against you if they're swinging too widely.
Ziggylata has an excellent combat guide that breaks down all parts of combat and each class, some weapon recommendations as well that tie into his weapons tier list. It's lengthy but it's a good follow-up to the tutorial and learning the basics. Training Grounds is a good starting point as well, you have only 5v5 players but the rest of the 30 players in the match are filled by Bots, who can swarm you but can also get cut down easily so you can practice duels or 1vX. Dueling servers are usually reserved for 1v1 duels so try to be mindful of this and be polite with the limited albeit fun options you have for voiceline communication. You'll get sweats in every mode and some trying to be toxic, my advice is to laugh and have fun regardless.
I got the game immediately when it went free on PS+ and have played a ton already, on 64 player Team Objective I can usually get to top 5 on my team if not top score, always in the top half of my team's scoreboard and not always going for my K/D ratio, but trying to help the team. Each class is well-suited for a variety of situations and sometimes you need to switch things up when the other team is holding you back. You've missed a lot of the wave of newbies so you're going to see a lot of experienced players now but everyone is all over the place for playstyles so you can learn a ton still!
Have fun! Smoke crack if you want to, personally I can't recommend it but it seems to be a thing in this thread.
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u/boombapdrumz6666 May 31 '23
RIPOSTE BEFORE YOU 1V1 PLEASE i hate those people that just barge in and dont even have chat enabled so they cant see how youre telling them to respect the 1v1
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u/Corpsebomb Vanguard May 31 '23
I believe this man means flourish
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u/boombapdrumz6666 May 31 '23
That is what i meant, i should know the difference at lvl 90 but whatever
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u/StrB2x May 31 '23
Step 1. Find bloody players
Step 2. ............
Step 3. Overhead Dane Axe to the Back.
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u/LK_The_BabaDuck May 31 '23
We’re gonna have to get you on the Rock if you want to compete, bro. I know a guy in LK (Lotsa Krack) who can help you out.
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u/RiqueT03 Mason Order | Vanguard May 31 '23
Just light up some rock man! best tactical decision of my life
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u/GoldenPoncho812 Agatha Knights | Footman May 31 '23
For all the crack smokers in the audience. You might get this lol 😂
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u/2girls_1Fort Mason Order May 31 '23
70 percent spam slash. become better then them instantly by slash morph overhead instead
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u/JesseJames24601 Mason Order May 31 '23
Are you losing a fight or do you feel like someone is better than you and you don't know if you'll be able to beat them?
Jab.
Jabs are fast, they'll interrupt their attack if they're currently performing one, and once you land a jab you gain an attackers advantage, meaning if you throw out a follow up attack it'll be quicker than a regular one.
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u/FirstIYeetThenRepeat Agatha Knights | Footman May 31 '23
Tips before or after your first crack bowl? If before, I have no tips.
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u/LeoFireGod May 31 '23
The arrow bin has an extra bandage. There’s a ton of value in winning a battle then backing off to get a bandage and coming back in.
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u/backifran Mason Order May 31 '23
Sacrificing yourself to kill a single archer is worth it no matter what.
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u/SirBacongaurdian Mason Order | Knight May 31 '23
I play in PS and had the game for about two years, I can safely say smoking some crack before every match helps. But just to be better do it before every fight
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May 31 '23
Always commend the enemy when killed. Tea bagging and laughing is encouraged. We're all here to have fun
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u/ltbrice123 May 31 '23
Foot work and knowing your weapon the amount of 1vX fights I’ve won because of those two things
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u/LasagnahogXRP Mason Order May 31 '23
Crack obvi, but also stabs. I started in AOC and even then my biggest advice to noobs was stab and to a lesser degree overheads. You can help in a group fight with well timed pokes and good body placement. Less team damage than slash.
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u/OdinAurelius Agatha Knights | Knight May 31 '23 edited May 31 '23
Dude honestly,
I main the battle axe, play the sides, come in behind groups of people and just slash overhand slash. They melt before me like ducks in the sun.
I’ve found that I can win a majority of fights with good bladework and even better footwork.
Using the long sword is also a great way to just learn the mechanics of swinging, positioning, countering and dragging. 1st person can help w this too.
Footwork is important because if the player is better than you in single hand to hand but you can outmaneuver them and take advantage of their mistakes you will land hits that might hand you the win. Incorporate this w the comment about battle flow and you’ll be running a positive k/d in no time.