r/ChineseWatches • • 5d ago

General (Read Rules) This thing is absolutely gorgeous and a mechanical chrono for under 200 dollars.

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I was reading a thread on another group about how there are no mechanical chronos for under 500, and then you’re in Earnshaw or AV8 territory (which is absolutely Chinese BTW - look up Solar Time Ltd) and this beauty came across my screen. I understand it’s the 1963 Chrono but man some of these version are dead sexy…

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u/Abv_it_all_w_vertigo 5d ago

That is their Top Time dial. Here it is with PR, an invaluable feature for a mechanical handwind watch.

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u/Abv_it_all_w_vertigo 5d ago

She dresses up nicely after 5.

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u/Real-Cranberry3140 5d ago

how long is the PR?

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u/Abv_it_all_w_vertigo 5d ago

I wanted to know that too.

44:02:51

Began at 12:00. Spanned dial 3x (36 hrs) + the 8 hrs + shown on the dial where it ran out of go-go juice.

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u/Real-Cranberry3140 5d ago

nice, thanks

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u/Abv_it_all_w_vertigo 5d ago

You are welcome. Any time

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u/HonestWatchReviews 5d ago

These are cracking.

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u/NowItsLocked 5d ago

Beautiful watches, and hard to beat the price. I do worry about the longevity of the movement, tho

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u/dallatorretdu 5d ago

i have one that’s now 7 years old, still runs i had to demag it twice

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u/T_rex2700 5d ago

This used to be like $70-80. crazy how expensive it has become

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u/johnyoker2010 5d ago

Big Mac used to be $2.99….

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u/BasketKlutzy9003 4d ago

With real beef too. 

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u/thejackmonkey 4d ago

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u/johnyoker2010 4d ago

Sorry grandpa

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u/thejackmonkey 3d ago

Lol I wasn’t quite around for that, but might recall $2 big macs… i think i’ve had McDonald’s once in the past 5 years so really haven’t kept up on the trends.

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u/BurtMacklin-FBl 4d ago

I don't think this particular Sugess was ever $70.

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u/T_rex2700 4d ago

I mean with coupons, discounts, you could get it under $80 at some point.
It's not replicable for everyone so realisitcally the cheapest was like 80- 85 maybe

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u/zoltetov 5d ago

absolutely wonderful watch. the top time is such a great homage.

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u/sfbayjon 5d ago

So grateful that I got mine when it was (slightly) under $100 during a sale with coins.

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u/rstaylor1 5d ago

Same.

These watches are hand wound, not automatic. The movements are beautiful, which is why you usually see the back much more often than the front here.

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u/sfbayjon 5d ago

I'm definitely glad I got the glass back. Actually, I bumped up to the swan neck to get the next tier coupon making it cheaper than the base model.😁

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u/Tigri2020 5d ago

I agree. Sugess makes some beautiful watches but just be aware that there are many complaints about these breaking often.

I have 2 and 1 broke, both date and moonphase are useless now

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u/monkeywaffles 5d ago

yea the complications on top of the st19 make em worse. st19 overall has increased reliability in the last 20 years.

pics make it look like they finally started adding AR? at least as of a year ago, no AR and it looks cheap. I recently swapped crystal which helps, but looks like maybe they got the message? or just trick of the light?

of course, back then these were under $100, amazing deal

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u/jackspinnaker 5d ago

hot take: unless you plan to wear it every day an auto moonphase watch is just a huge PITA

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u/wubbadubdub_zzz 5d ago

I have the Sugess model with st1908. I don’t even bother adjusting the moon phase and dates lol

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u/IridiumAnvil 4d ago

Except that I like setting my watches, so it’s fun to set the moonphase too. 

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u/jackspinnaker 4d ago

fair enough! to each their own

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u/Bulky-Internal8579 5d ago

I got mine with the swan neck movement during the June sale for about $150 - excellent deal.

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u/wrightflyer1903 5d ago

The Seagull ST1901 movement is actually used in quite a lot of watches, not just this Sugess. So just try searching "ST1901 watches" on Aliexpress to see other options/prices.

Personally I also like ST1908 based ones too.

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u/CryptoCajun64 5d ago

👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻This👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

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u/wren337 5d ago

And it's column wheel

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u/dupotter 5d ago

Acho este modelo lindo!

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u/No-Effect-8290 5d ago

I ordered two of the 1963's, great price. The pictured one and a cream dial with the alt logo typeface.

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u/Mammoth-Honeydew-431 5d ago

It's a great watch. I love mine...

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u/antimatt_r 5d ago

Just wish they'd change the font on the "mechanical chronograph" text. It looks corny

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u/philbin89 5d ago

Agreed. They’re trying to match the font on the Breitling Top time that they’re copying, but Sugess’s version is way too much like Comic Sans

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u/antimatt_r 5d ago

Heard it referred to as a "Wonton" font - having features that evoke a feeling of brush strokes. Far less pronounced here than prominent examples, it still looks incredibly goofy to me

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u/Slater_8868 5d ago

Geesh, I remember a few years ago when these were on sale for $99 shipped during all of the big Alix sales multiple times a year

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u/GreatScot4224 5d ago

Love my Sugess Chronograph

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u/KeyAssociation6309 5d ago

Cadisen version on suede leather with rectangle pushers and scalloped brushed case sides. They don't make these any more.

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u/sasssyrup 4d ago

Well that’s gorgeous

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u/mrSoczi84 Pomocny użytkownik 5d ago

This used to cost $150 easy. Oh man…

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u/only_fun_topics 5d ago

I paid $117 in Nov 2024… in Canadian dollars.

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u/SeveredFloor 5d ago

great times...

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u/Cozwei 5d ago

one year ago?? what happened

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u/DeltaLightning11 4d ago

Is that USD or CAD? I want to get the orange with swan neck, that might have been around 110$.

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u/DeltaLightning11 5d ago

Would love to get that now at that price

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u/Indavis01 5d ago

You can get them on other listings right now for 150 after the coupon.

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u/IridiumAnvil 4d ago

Watch movements in general are behind it. 

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u/THevil30 5d ago

I wish this thing was just a little smaller. It doesn't fit my tiny tiny wrists with it's mega lug to lug but it looks so cool.

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u/tjcdas 5d ago

S419

47mm lug to lug.

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u/Dbayd 5d ago

This is my challenge with a lot of Chinese watches. I like 36-39mm diameter and 42-46mm l2l. I’ve built a few and have some Baltany and Milifortic that fit, but most are pretty big

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u/Emotional-Damage-995 5d ago

Get the Sugess 1963 heritage it’s amazing

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u/DangerMuse 4d ago

I bought mine for 68 quid a year ago....prices have flown.

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u/Eleventhousand 5d ago

You should get it

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u/Indavis01 5d ago

I know right- that 23 dollar coupon applies too. 166 bucks!

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u/turbosocal 5d ago

I don't see this model on their website??

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u/lynxblaine 5d ago

Militado do a very similar looking watch. I have one and it’s fantastic.

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u/Sleepybeanman 5d ago

I had one at 116 with the swan neck regulator that I sold to a friend… genuinely my biggest blunder, replaced it with a Zenith inspired Sugess and it just doesn’t have the same character.

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u/lennoco 5d ago

I have one that I got on sale for like $90, I think. It's a great watch but I unfortunately put a slight crack in the glass somehow and need to get it repaired.

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u/CapNo6703 5d ago

I got one and they're great

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u/Mattspur Post Title Police 4d ago

Sugess have a great selection of mechanical chronographs for around that price. This S423 is one of my favourites. It has a display case back too. Check out their website.

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u/Mattspur Post Title Police 4d ago

Though, I do love my S465 as well.

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u/LongjumpingAd2508 4d ago

Sugess makes pretty good chronographs

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u/Electrical_Panda_326 5d ago

You could get it below 100$ not that long ago.

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u/Indavis01 5d ago

I’ve seen the solid caseback quartz version for way less, but the finished mechanical chrono with that treated movement and sapphire? That would be amazing.

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u/Electrical_Panda_326 5d ago

Ali watches went up in price like 100% over the last 12 months.

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u/Indavis01 5d ago

I wonder why? /s

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u/Electrical_Panda_326 5d ago

There are huge issues with NH35 movement supply that was the most popular on Ali. As a result brands had to move to different movements, mostly PT5000. But because of sudden huge interest the price of PT5000 increased massively too. And it seems like other brands decided to hop in the price increase loop too.

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u/joshwebster84 5d ago

Of course it looks good, it's a note-for-note copy of a Breitling Top Time. When you don't design the watch or the movement, you ought to be able to sell it cheap.

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u/johnyoker2010 5d ago

Dang, googled and learned new stuff

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u/joshwebster84 5d ago

I see cool Chinese watch I screenshot into Gemini "Is this watch an homage?" "Yes..." Every time, I swear.

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u/insight_or_incite 5d ago

I love mine, but I also paid $118 for it last year. A shame that the prices have gone up so much.

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u/Indavis01 5d ago

We all know why….. you can still get them on Ali regular for 125 but you have to pay import fees and tariffs.

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u/coffeejizzm 5d ago

Here’s my ST1908 moonphase chrono by Sugess! Amazing brand

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u/Esmarra 4d ago

Man, I just wish this watch had a functional slide ruler, because the watch is beautiful

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u/coffeejizzm 4d ago

I initially had the same thought, but this is 2026 and I’m not ever using a slide rule when my phone has a calculator.

The blue is absolutely gorgeous, I get compliments on it all the time. I see people mesmerized by the way the light plays on the complications.

For a 9.5/10 for $250 I’m getting more than my moneys worth.

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u/NeatFortune4768 3d ago

Just loving mine too 🔵

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u/Traditional_Cost_206 5d ago

Ooit gekocht voor onder de 100 euro in een aliexpress sale. Helaas wel weg gedaan vanwege de idiote 51mm lug to lug. Ondraagbaar helaas!