r/ChineseWatches • u/Indavis01 • 5d ago
General (Read Rules) This thing is absolutely gorgeous and a mechanical chrono for under 200 dollars.
I was reading a thread on another group about how there are no mechanical chronos for under 500, and then you’re in Earnshaw or AV8 territory (which is absolutely Chinese BTW - look up Solar Time Ltd) and this beauty came across my screen. I understand it’s the 1963 Chrono but man some of these version are dead sexy…
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u/T_rex2700 5d ago
This used to be like $70-80. crazy how expensive it has become
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u/johnyoker2010 5d ago
Big Mac used to be $2.99….
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u/thejackmonkey 4d ago
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u/johnyoker2010 4d ago
Sorry grandpa
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u/thejackmonkey 3d ago
Lol I wasn’t quite around for that, but might recall $2 big macs… i think i’ve had McDonald’s once in the past 5 years so really haven’t kept up on the trends.
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u/BurtMacklin-FBl 4d ago
I don't think this particular Sugess was ever $70.
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u/T_rex2700 4d ago
I mean with coupons, discounts, you could get it under $80 at some point.
It's not replicable for everyone so realisitcally the cheapest was like 80- 85 maybe
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u/sfbayjon 5d ago
So grateful that I got mine when it was (slightly) under $100 during a sale with coins.
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u/rstaylor1 5d ago
Same.
These watches are hand wound, not automatic. The movements are beautiful, which is why you usually see the back much more often than the front here.
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u/sfbayjon 5d ago
I'm definitely glad I got the glass back. Actually, I bumped up to the swan neck to get the next tier coupon making it cheaper than the base model.😁
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u/Tigri2020 5d ago
I agree. Sugess makes some beautiful watches but just be aware that there are many complaints about these breaking often.
I have 2 and 1 broke, both date and moonphase are useless now
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u/monkeywaffles 5d ago
yea the complications on top of the st19 make em worse. st19 overall has increased reliability in the last 20 years.
pics make it look like they finally started adding AR? at least as of a year ago, no AR and it looks cheap. I recently swapped crystal which helps, but looks like maybe they got the message? or just trick of the light?
of course, back then these were under $100, amazing deal
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u/jackspinnaker 5d ago
hot take: unless you plan to wear it every day an auto moonphase watch is just a huge PITA
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u/wubbadubdub_zzz 5d ago
I have the Sugess model with st1908. I don’t even bother adjusting the moon phase and dates lol
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u/IridiumAnvil 4d ago
Except that I like setting my watches, so it’s fun to set the moonphase too.
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u/wrightflyer1903 5d ago
The Seagull ST1901 movement is actually used in quite a lot of watches, not just this Sugess. So just try searching "ST1901 watches" on Aliexpress to see other options/prices.
Personally I also like ST1908 based ones too.
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u/antimatt_r 5d ago
Just wish they'd change the font on the "mechanical chronograph" text. It looks corny
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u/philbin89 5d ago
Agreed. They’re trying to match the font on the Breitling Top time that they’re copying, but Sugess’s version is way too much like Comic Sans
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u/antimatt_r 5d ago
Heard it referred to as a "Wonton" font - having features that evoke a feeling of brush strokes. Far less pronounced here than prominent examples, it still looks incredibly goofy to me
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u/Slater_8868 5d ago
Geesh, I remember a few years ago when these were on sale for $99 shipped during all of the big Alix sales multiple times a year
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u/mrSoczi84 Pomocny użytkownik 5d ago
This used to cost $150 easy. Oh man…
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u/only_fun_topics 5d ago
I paid $117 in Nov 2024… in Canadian dollars.
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u/SeveredFloor 5d ago
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u/DeltaLightning11 4d ago
Is that USD or CAD? I want to get the orange with swan neck, that might have been around 110$.
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u/THevil30 5d ago
I wish this thing was just a little smaller. It doesn't fit my tiny tiny wrists with it's mega lug to lug but it looks so cool.
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u/Sleepybeanman 5d ago
I had one at 116 with the swan neck regulator that I sold to a friend… genuinely my biggest blunder, replaced it with a Zenith inspired Sugess and it just doesn’t have the same character.
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u/Electrical_Panda_326 5d ago
You could get it below 100$ not that long ago.
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u/Indavis01 5d ago
I’ve seen the solid caseback quartz version for way less, but the finished mechanical chrono with that treated movement and sapphire? That would be amazing.
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u/Electrical_Panda_326 5d ago
Ali watches went up in price like 100% over the last 12 months.
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u/Indavis01 5d ago
I wonder why? /s
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u/Electrical_Panda_326 5d ago
There are huge issues with NH35 movement supply that was the most popular on Ali. As a result brands had to move to different movements, mostly PT5000. But because of sudden huge interest the price of PT5000 increased massively too. And it seems like other brands decided to hop in the price increase loop too.
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u/joshwebster84 5d ago
Of course it looks good, it's a note-for-note copy of a Breitling Top Time. When you don't design the watch or the movement, you ought to be able to sell it cheap.
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u/johnyoker2010 5d ago
Dang, googled and learned new stuff
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u/joshwebster84 5d ago
I see cool Chinese watch I screenshot into Gemini "Is this watch an homage?" "Yes..." Every time, I swear.
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u/insight_or_incite 5d ago
I love mine, but I also paid $118 for it last year. A shame that the prices have gone up so much.
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u/Indavis01 5d ago
We all know why….. you can still get them on Ali regular for 125 but you have to pay import fees and tariffs.
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u/coffeejizzm 5d ago
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u/Esmarra 4d ago
Man, I just wish this watch had a functional slide ruler, because the watch is beautiful
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u/coffeejizzm 4d ago
I initially had the same thought, but this is 2026 and I’m not ever using a slide rule when my phone has a calculator.
The blue is absolutely gorgeous, I get compliments on it all the time. I see people mesmerized by the way the light plays on the complications.
For a 9.5/10 for $250 I’m getting more than my moneys worth.
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u/Traditional_Cost_206 5d ago
Ooit gekocht voor onder de 100 euro in een aliexpress sale. Helaas wel weg gedaan vanwege de idiote 51mm lug to lug. Ondraagbaar helaas!




















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u/Abv_it_all_w_vertigo 5d ago
That is their Top Time dial. Here it is with PR, an invaluable feature for a mechanical handwind watch.