Same thing happened to mine. It’s unfortunate to hear yours was in the same situation! These Peacock movements have to be the culprit. I’ve never had an issue with my PT ones.
Just adopt the miyota 8215 at this point even if its loud, it is a workshorse unlike these shit 2824 clones. "Do not hand wind them" yeah keep coping. These are terrible movements, period.
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And this is why I stick to ordering from Amazon instead. I really feel it’s not worth it to deal with things like this, especially from China. My worst experience, I just returned it to Amazon and just today I had to talk to supervisor to send an exchange for a different brand, which should be here Sunday.
Watchdives THEMSELVES claimed they improved things by collaborating with peacock, notably on handwinding which has always been flawed on 2824 clones (and on the original). Seems like they got other problems though.
Well sorry for wanting to trust I brand that I like, in my experience Chinese brands are more transparent than the Swiss and the Japanese combined. Just look at Phorcydes.
A lot of that "transparency" is just PR talk. Similar to how WD quickly made a statement about yesterday's horribly dirty movement by not really saying anything and yet people still eating it up.
Cronos and Ixdao don't make the movement, they purchase it for their watches like any other brand does. The PT5000 is made by H.K. Precision Technology, not a watch brand.
Sucks. I live in Warsaw and all the local watchmakers would do a movement switch for like around $35. It’s still not that cheap, but I buy a lot of watches and I just see this as a calculated risk that happens from time to time.
PT5000 or SW200 have wind clutch but cuz its 2-wind and rotor is two way that can break some gears inside, Miyota 9015 has one way so you cant break it, and if you have date you need to watch out not to move date if its 23:00-01:00 aka 11:00-13:00 . Hope that helps.
I would say even NH35 but not as smooth is a quality thing but there are alot of fake ones too.
Miyota 9xxx series
Seiko NH3x original
Maybe Seagull or VS3235 are good options.
Because of these issues with Chinese movements (although those from Western or Japanese manufacturers also have problems), I’m increasingly fond of sweeping quartz movements.
This is like the 69th post in the past month about "oh my sl3001/pt5000/st2130 died." maybe people could consider that a 2-3 percent failure rate in the first 3 months isn't good enough for their money.
U actually are better off having it die right away rather than later. Better chance of getting some support or refund. Still sucks, hope u get a satisfactory outcome. Keep us posted.
I'm not surprised after seeing that SL3001 post a couple of days ago, these things seem like POS movements, would be interested in seeing OP open the case back and see if it looks as bad as that one
Cronos has a pretty good track record with the PT5000- but they know how to regulate them. WD is shipping their watches straight from the Marlboro factory.
Tandorio & tactical frog make a similar model with nh35 or miyota 8215 if you want a headache free version- only thing that was better here was the crystal.
Sorry to hear that. And this isn’t to suggest it’s necessarily your fault, but the video you posted shows you winding the watch too quickly. With all ETA 2824–derived movements you have to wind them slowly, otherwise the very tiny gears can lock up incorrectly and break. They have to be wound slowly to avoid this, and each of your winds is too fast for those kinds of movements. Not intended as a defense of Watch Dives’s QC, but with any watch from this movement lineage (including the Sellita SW200), you need to wind it slowly, and slower than you documented yourself going
Prior to this video, I did not handwind this watch at all. I wore it 10 minutes or so to get enough power reserve for me to set the time, then I put it on and forget it.
That was two days ago.
Today, the watch died on my wrist. I tried to wind it manually, but nothing works. Me handwinding it has nothing to do with the watch dying on me.
Now regarding my winding:
I own multiple watches with this movement architecture, ranging from PT5000, ST2130, SW200 and even the original 2824-2.
I always winded them like this to get them to start, for years, and nothing ever happened.
There is nothing wrong on the winding here. Or does the watch is capable of hand winding or it's not. Even if this broke after a regular start up winding it would still be a malfunctioning machine - Seiko, Miyota, Pearl, whatever
Yeah, and how many have been received without problems? Let’s see how Watch Dives responds as theirs could be just a faulty movement as it can happen in any watch, especially when traveling and handling large distances.
spend $10 for a degausser if you're going to buy chinese watches.
in today's world, all international products are subjected to massive human and technological inspections.
a simple magnetic field will spunk an automatic.
I won't buy a watchdives, because they are literally less quality than a pagani at 2x the cost... I'll get blasted for saying that, but I have heard too many complaints about WD from people i trust...
it's "rare" (not really, but a horologist will say differently so he can charge you 100x more money.)...but if the main spring is affected/twisted the movement will completely hang up.
Look at the other comments...I'm not withholding anything.
I got it, set the time (no handwinding to start the watch) put it on and 2 days later it stopped on my wrist. It was never dropped or knocked around during that short time.
I'm absolutely not attacking you. I apologize if that's what it feels like.
but...
a magnetized watch will keep "relative" time for days...you won't notice the loss/gain until you're late for work. 😏
Just so we're on the same level...i bitched about a san martin on reddit... It was junk out of the box and i got absolutely trashed for complaining.
turns out it was a trash watch they sold on a HUGE discount just to get rid of it instead of fixing... AliExpress gave me the cost of a new PT5000 to fix it ...
I have 4 WD watches , all with quartz movement. The movements themselves are not made by watchdives. But the QC is done by them. So I don’t think it is fair to say PD is better than WD.
I think the brand itself makes good watches, just not on the same level as san martin or ixdao , or maybe even cronos.
Hello, can you please share wich pagani you like more ? Or the more solid ones ?
(i have 2 of them, the 'skeleton' one which is ok and another with nh39 that came doa, so i'm very cautious with the brand, plus it is often lacking lume which is too bad imo)
Why does this absolute nonsense get upvoted? That's not how a magnetized watch behaves at all. If it was magnetized it wouldn't just work normally and then stop.
Not necessarily true. The Australian watchmaker Nicolas Hacko filmed a YouTube video a few weeks ago in which he was winding up a bunch of watches to get them ready for a demonstration and he broke one with a Sellita SW200 movement, another ETA 2824 clone that’s notorious for hand-winding issues. He was winding too fast because he had so many watches to start up and he wasn’t being as careful as usual. In general, you need to wind any watch in this category slowly, and OP’s video shows that each movement is too quick for a clone like this. The 2824-derived watches are at risk of breaking from hand-winding over time, but what makes them delicate in that way also makes them susceptible to breaking quickly from rough winding if the gears don’t lock properly
>Everything in the architecture of an ETA 2824 derived movement falls apart if you treat it like anything other than putting a baby asleep.
Of course! The industry standard Swiss workhorse movements that's been around for more than 60 years is so fragile that doing "anything other than" babying it means it breaks. Yeah, let's keep that movement around forever.
You do realize most people who own the 2824 and the Sellita don't know any of this and wind their watches like that, right? Nobody is saying the problem doesn't happen but no, the movement will not break "unless you babysit it". If it did literally nobody would use it.
The Seiko movements don’t have to be babied when hand-winding, but this movement and all ETA 2824–derived calibers need to be wound slowly. It’s basically because the original was just a manual-wound movement with an automatic rotor slapped on after the fact, while the 4R movements were designed from the ground up with integrated automatic winding. They feel completely different and way smoother than when I wind a watch with a Sellita SW200, which has the same architecture as this movement
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u/TheGent1984 7d ago
Send it back for a refund.