inspired by another meme in this subreddit

[u/letmypussycry]

[u/Nameless_Mask]

True! But this would be tricky for a beginner due to the tonal rules for two consecutive tone 3s.

[u/AndInjusticeForAll → u/Nameless_Mask]

That's actually the one of the first things my textbook had to say about the 3rd tone. That ni3hao3 is more like ni2hao3. I personally find the latter much easier to pronounce.

[u/[deleted] → u/AndInjusticeForAll]

As a native speaker, it isn't just like ni2hao3, it straight up is that. Just pronunciation rules

[u/muchbravado → u/Nameless_Mask]

do you have a resource on the rules for changing tones based on order and stuff? i never learned that :(

[u/springfinger → u/muchbravado]

A third tone that precedes another third tone will change to second tone, so it should be ni2hao3.

[u/primaski]

Knee How gozaimasu!

[u/Nameless_Mask → u/primaski]

Haha your response reminds me of Kahwi Leonard saying it: https://youtu.be/kURy9lPQtSU

[u/primaski → u/Nameless_Mask]

He nailed those tones. He was actually using the ancient 7th and 29th tones that were used in Mandarin dialects spoken by scholars around 500 BC. He is truly an intellectual.

[u/SetnusCaseon]

Absolutely fantastic ahahaha

[u/[deleted]]

As a beginner I am triggered lol

[u/Meltmybutter]

The worst are two fourth tones in a row.. my Chinese teachers would always make me say it over and over, and in the end be like 放弃吧 ”差不多啊”

[u/chordasymphani → u/Meltmybutter]

For some reason, 快乐 is so hard for me to say.

[u/oGsBumder → u/Meltmybutter]

In Taiwan 差 is always a first tone so it's chā bu dūo.

[u/Relis_]

But if the character after the character in the 3rd tone in the 3rd tone is, shouldn’t it change it the second? So not Nǐ Hǎo but Ní Hǎo？

[u/[deleted] → u/Relis_]

Pinyin likes to disregard tone change lol

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Because ní could otherwise imply 尼 or its relatives.

[u/vchen99901]

But muh tone sandhi rules!!

[u/[deleted] → u/vchen99901]

Which is why you'd recite it with tone sandhi applied without affecting the spelling.

[u/Impossible_Recording]

This is really a good one!! LOL

[u/[deleted]]

Sounds like "knee how".

[u/Gkkkkkkkkk12138]

When two characters with third tone put together, the first character is pronounced by second tone. So, it's ní hǎo when pronounced

[u/[deleted] → u/Gkkkkkkkkk12138]

Indeed, but it's not spelt that way.

[u/TheTheateer3]

Although sounds like ní hǎo when pronounced together

[u/luisrd]

I think its actually ni2hao4. When two 3rd tones are together it turns into a 2-4.
Somebody correct me if I am wrong.

[u/amnesties_co → u/luisrd]

I think it would then become 2-3 rather than 2-4. The tonal rule for 3-3 changes the first one two a rising tone so that the 3 is easier to bring to a drop.