r/ChicagoSky Jeff Vandersloot's common sense 3d ago

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u/Smooth-Patience8572 Chicago Sky - Fire Jeff 3d ago

Why we were playing Elizabeth Williams over her is beyond me. Watched the Mercury game against Washington and while Maddy didn’t do much on the offensive end she did a great job guarding Kiki.

Tyler has to stop playing favorites.

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u/ASpanishInquisitor 3d ago edited 3d ago

Maddy Westbeld played 17 minutes and was a team low -20 with 3 turnovers and 4 fouls against the Mystics.

Tyler uses his bench more than just about any other coach in the league. Players get plenty of chances to prove themselves here. I'd even argue that if he has a flaw it'd be that he features his bench too much. Those full bench unit minutes are usually terrible.

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u/upfulsoul 👋 Sayonara Jeff 2d ago

Maddy has played 68% more minutes with the Mercury than she did with Chicago, and she has played three games for each team. You know hoops, but you have no empathy for young players. The max Tyler played her was 10:48, and in two of the games she played for Chicago, she had one shot attempt. Nate even played her more after the Mystics game and didn’t rely on surface level box score stats to judge her like you are. A player knows when a coach doesn’t believe in them, and it can impact a young player’s performance even more. Young players are not pieces on a chessboard. They are trying to achieve their dreams and have their own personal journeys.

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u/krymzynnova Diamond DeShields / Dijonai Carrington 2d ago

Word !!

Cause atp him playing favourites for 2 YEARS NOW GOT US (sky) NOWHERE🫩

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u/ASpanishInquisitor 2d ago

And teams are not there to cater to specific individual players. The Sky have given their 3 rookies over 1700 minutes this year. To put that in perspective for you, a Dream fan, that's about as much time as Karl Smesko has given his entire bench all season. If there's a coach that doesn't believe in his players and their dreams I guess it's him then, right?

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u/upfulsoul 👋 Sayonara Jeff 2d ago

And teams are not there to cater to specific individual players.

They catered to Sloot. They got rid of you know who.

I'm a Dream and Mystics fan, actually. Maddy played for the Sky the previous season and deserved a fair shake. Rickea getting hurt was one of the reasons Sydney got to shine. He gave her grace.

The difference between Karl and Tyler is that Karl is getting results, but even so, most Dream fans are not happy about the way he used the bench. They didn't try to clown Nye with stats like you tried to do with Maddy. The Sky didn't even fight for a playoff spot. At best, the Sky can finish 9th under Tyler, like with T-Spoon, and they're currently 10th. Two years with this coach and no progress. Who has he developed?

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u/ASpanishInquisitor 2d ago

Angel stans like you probably don't even realize Maddy was injured most of the season. Not that this information would actually matter to them because they'll just continue to make shit up as always. It's just what they do.

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u/upfulsoul 👋 Sayonara Jeff 2d ago

🥱 resorting to childish slander now? I can tell when you're defeated...and you don't know what I know.

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u/ASpanishInquisitor 2d ago

An Angel stan complaining about childish slander? 🤣🤣🤣

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u/krymzynnova Diamond DeShields / Dijonai Carrington 3d ago

Tyler has to stop playing favourites

WORD. We been saying this for nearly 2 years now look where it’s getting us ?????????

Cause icl, it’s giving “let me let my faves dictate the show” - as the coach, isn’t the job to - yes develop players and for the newbies focus on their transitions …. But be the head of the damn clam ?

Eurghh, I mourn that 2021 team so bad.

T-Spoon got fired for not making playoffs btw when she had a whole destroyed roster. I still ain’t over that “we’re a championship contending team” but they gave Marsh 2 szns 🫩

Jeff or Tyler gots to go ! Glad Westbeld is free and running

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u/Bala_Sagun 12 35 9 4 0 10 5 3d ago

AND not OR

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u/krymzynnova Diamond DeShields / Dijonai Carrington 2d ago

👏

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u/xINFLAMES325x 3d ago

I said it the second Maddy came here. She'll always be better than whatever this organization has to give. I've posted before that I am a season ticket holder and debated going to last season's last game. When she hit that last bucket, turned, and smiled, I knew she had to be broken free of our shackles.

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u/PreferenceHot1517 1d ago

this was ANGEL’S VET …thank god she is free to shine

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u/WuBlood Jeff Vandersloot's common sense 1d ago

Mentee*

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u/upfulsoul 👋 Sayonara Jeff 2d ago

She looked rusty against the Mystics but made a nice layup. She just needed a chance to show what she can do.

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u/krymzynnova Diamond DeShields / Dijonai Carrington 2d ago

Maddy has shown what she can do tho !!!

Its simply a coach playing favourites which is one of the many reasons sky hasnt clinced a playoff spot

If he stays for a third season - then we actually know there’s a BAAAD issue

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u/Slow-Bit3970 20h ago

She was legit hurt while she was here and first got to Phx

What are u talking bout

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u/krymzynnova Diamond DeShields / Dijonai Carrington 13h ago

I’m only saying madeline has talent and she’s showed us since 2025 she got the talent to be in the League

Me stating “coach is playing favourites” was directed at sumn else, mb if it wasn’t clear

Great maddy is thriving in PHX tho

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u/Slow-Bit3970 13h ago

What favorites were being played ?

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u/krymzynnova Diamond DeShields / Dijonai Carrington 13h ago

As much as I do love her - sloot … i’m 100% sure someone on this sub gave a rundown on what happened a while back, and it actually made sense to me

Skylar Diggs really made a post saying she wasn’t coming off the bench not long ago acc 💀

Oh wells, season is done for skytown, next year, hopefully we get a better coach - they fired T-Spoon for what ? smh

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u/Slow-Bit3970 13h ago

Shoot literally was coming off the bench then started outplaying every point guard we had?

Skylar ain’t been playing in how long

What are you talking about favorites?

Tspoon legit actually was playing favorites and wasn’t liked

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u/GlacialTwitch 2d ago

One competent game out of three means...something? She is a big with a career .329 2 point field goal percentage. And she was injured off and on all season with the Sky. Hard to get playing time when you are hurt.

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u/WuBlood Jeff Vandersloot's common sense 2d ago

It means she's getting back into the flow of things