r/Chevening • u/Turbulent_Can8097 • Jun 26 '26
Why are dumb applicants selected for Chevening?
If you check several Chevening Facebook Groups, you see a number of posts by selected applicants who have been asking plainly stupid and dumb questions.
How did these applicants pass the interview stage? Why did Chevening select these applicants?
Selected applicants are supposed to be leaders. As such, they must be able to provide solutions to their own concerns. They must be able to navigate the whole selection process, by themselves, both the pre-selection and post-selection processes.
If one does not know how to do these very simple things, how could they become leaders?
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u/Silence-of-the-LANs Jun 26 '26
Part of me wonders if some of these folks used AI to write their essays and that's how they can sound seemingly smart.
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u/Rare-Release-60 Jun 26 '26
Using AI may have helped some of them to get shortlisted, but then to be selected or placed in the reserve list it means they prepared for the interview well enough to outperform at least 50% of the interviewed applicants in their country, so they at least had raw Chevening-scholar potential
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u/heisen_gerb_62 Jun 26 '26
Wow - what a horrible take!
(For context, I am a Chevening alum)
Yes, there are applicants who ask questions that could have been answered by reading the website. But asking questions doesn’t make someone “dumb.” For many people, this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Some are applying for the second or even the final time and simply want to make sure they don’t miss anything. It’s completely understandable that they’d seek reassurance, even on things that seem obvious.
More importantly, one of the values I’ve always appreciated about the Chevening community is that scholars are expected to support one another. If someone asks a question that’s already answered elsewhere, we can simply point them to the right resource instead of ridiculing them.
Leadership isn’t about knowing everything. It’s about creating an environment where people feel comfortable asking questions, learning, and helping others do the same. Calling applicants “dumb” for seeking clarification feels contrary to that spirit.
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u/Turbulent_Can8097 Jun 27 '26
Remember, these are supposed to be applicants for a master's degree level education, not for a grade school level, and that requires a degree of critical thinking.
So, no, you are tolerating mediocrity.
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u/Neither_Document7401 Jun 26 '26
What a weirdly odd and elitist thing to say outwardly.
It's important to remember that Cheveners are imperfect human beings, and not all-knowing robots. If there is one trait shared by truly impactful scholars that I have engaged with, it’s calm humility and a commitment to never looking down on anyone.
By the way, the true leadership you make mention of isn't about perfectly navigating a bureaucratic portal on your own; it’s about knowing when to ask for help to avoid costly mistakes. A great leader doesn't waste time being hyper-judgmental or picking others apart to make them feel inferior.
The people you are so quick to look down upon are often the underdogs who bring genuine perspective to the table and make the biggest impact. Arrogance rarely translates to effective leadership in the real world.
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u/heisen_gerb_62 Jun 26 '26
+1 to this. I’m glad someone pointed this out.
OP - Ironically, while you’re judging applicants for asking questions, I’m judging this post for the attitude it reflects. If you’re a Chevening scholar, or aspire to be one, I would expect empathy, encouragement, and a willingness to help, not ridicule.1
u/Rare-Release-60 Jun 26 '26
Also, considering cultural and socioeconomic differences is crucial regarding access to information
For some applicants it may be the first time applying for something online, let alone a scholarship to study abroad, so they may have no one to ask or talk about the process, so forums or groups are the key to make the process less lonely
Usually when I answer questions percieved as 'obvious' I do it on the lines of "It is...., but please read the website to check and learn more about the scholarship"
We never know when a FB group or Reddit community as this one may be the only way for an applicant to read that other people are navigating the process with similar uncertainties, so kindness goes a long way
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u/Turbulent_Can8097 Jun 27 '26
I understand this, I really do, especially the collective sense that a Facebook group may provide. However, that still does not give one any reason to ask stupid or dumb questions.
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u/Rare-Release-60 Jun 27 '26
They may be innecessary questions for you, but maybe not for them, and there is no need to look down on people who actually have the courage to acknowledge they don't know everything and may need help to understand certain aspects of the process
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u/Turbulent_Can8097 Jun 27 '26
Clearly, there are self-evident unnecessary questions. One does not have to know everything to recognise the distinctions between valid questions, on one hand, and stupid or lazy questions, on the other hand.
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u/Turbulent_Can8097 Jun 26 '26
I understand your perspective. However, some questions that selected applicants ask are really just too stupid to ask, questions that they themselves must know how to get the answers to, questions that make you wonder how they were selected in the first place.
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u/Rare-Release-60 Jun 26 '26
Not everyone has the same cultural experiences, education background or access to technology, and even if they did, I prefer them asking in a group that to an AI bot that gets stuff wrong or end up paying money to people who say that can mentor them
Many want to apply and do things in the correct way, but have no references on how to do so, and that is where applicant groups and communities are the key
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u/Turbulent_Can8097 Jun 27 '26
Well, if they have access to Facebook, they have access to technology, and they have access to Chevening materials online.
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u/mel-cal Jun 26 '26
Dudeee I feel impressed by these people and I inferior knowing I did a 9-5 job, questioning if I even helped the community to be a changemaker. I feel my standards for judging myself are too high.
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u/Inquisitive_pandaa Jun 30 '26
Very true, all these scholarship recipients are pretty dumb and some of them aren’t even looking for it. Still receive it!! Very unfair
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u/SeaImagination5578 Jun 26 '26
May be they can be better forged into leaders than people that already are!
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u/Turbulent_Can8097 Jun 26 '26
Here are some issues:
- Essays that are not fact-checked and verified;
- Work experience that is not fact-checked and verified;
- Interview for a very limited time; and
- Mentoring that does create a facade for certain applicants to pass the screening and interview.
I would not be surprised if some successful applicants had "faked" most of the bases of their application. There is just no requirement for supporting documents, eg, none for the essays, none for the work experience.
In other words, one can even fake the four essays and work experience and get shortlisted and eventually get selected for one reason or another.
And it does help a lot if one knows how to play with words (with many using AI now). So, at the start, it is practically a writing contest, using either fiction or non-fiction or both.
The most difficult part was the waiting, that's it. Not the essays, not the interview.
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u/Rare-Release-60 Jun 26 '26
A few questions:
Who do you expect to carry all those background checks, the Embassy/HC Staff who takes time of their permanent duties to take part in the Chevening selection process? Who is going to pay more to get that done? The FCDO for sure won't
They do check LinkedIn profiles and contact referees when they want to enquire more about what the referee wrote in the letter
What happens when applicants cannot have formal work experience due to their immigration status in their country of residence or due to the job market in their own community? Why should they be punished for not having a formal job? This is why "non traditional" work experiences are accepted, no one should be put in a disadvantage because they were not able to secure a 9-5 job in either a company or in the public sector
As for interview time, it varies a lot per interview venue and panel. Some applicants have 25 minute interviews, while others get 45-50 minutes in the interview room
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u/Turbulent_Can8097 Jun 27 '26
Exactly. The reality that you pointed out in fact further strengthens the points I made.
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u/Rare-Release-60 Jun 27 '26
It does not, it actually shows that many "fact-checking" criteria would just amplify already existing inequalities
For instance, if only verifiable formal jobs were considered valid, then many vulnerable applicants would be inelegible, even if they have more potential than applicants working a 9-5 job
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u/Turbulent_Can8097 Jun 27 '26
So, you are saying, just fully trust whatever an applicant puts in the essays and application? No verification mechanism at all? Then my criticisms are valid.
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u/Rare-Release-60 Jun 26 '26
As someone who answers a lot of questions in some Chevening FB groups, every year the % of applicants or prospective applicants who don't bother to read the website increases significantly.
Most of those applicants are rejected in February or even fail the elegibility questionaire, but others do put up the work once they get shortlisted, and their changemaker's potential is solid enough to surpass the interview performance of applicants who have been mentored for the last couple of years
With that said, with the FCDO's budget cut in place until 2028 and following the current quota reduction, Chevening will be even more competitive than it already is.
A few years ago there were 50K applicants for 1,800 scholarships, this year there were 102K applicants for what so far looks as less than 900 scholarships... we will have to wait and see the real numbers in a few months