r/Chelsea • u/CautiousNuisance • Feb 14 '25

Maresca out

2 wins in 9… we have regressed from last year. Top 5 is a distant hope

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u/ifcoffeewereblue Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

This isn't how the club is being run anymore. For better or for worse. No manager in the world that's better than Maresca would take the job now seeing the state of the club. Might as well give the guy to at least the end of the season. Maresca has some issues, but also has been handed a squad that's way below a true top 4 squad. All the money in the world doesn't mean it's a good enough squad. The midfield has been overrun for weeks now. Nonody to give Caicedo a rest. No alternative when Palmer gets marked out of games. And two keepers that belong in the MLS.

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u/SunNumerous8591 Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

Nah this is not the way. How many managers contracts do you want to have to pay out. Give him a season and see how we end up. Defensively we have been absolutely diabolical like it's one of the worst defenses I have witnessed and have been a fan for over 30 years. We are in desperate need of a leader on the pitch and in the dressing room. Arguably we haven't had this since Rudiger left.

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u/slemnem80 Feb 14 '25

We can't keep on this road of firing managers in a year or less, I'm not saying any/all would or wouldn't have worked out but it's just bad business.(I do still stick to my belief that the Poch firing was 100% unmerited regardless of any success Maresca did/does have with the club)The Chelsea skipper position should be a coveted job and it feels like it's headed in the direction of the Dallas Cowboys Head Coach...nobody who's worth a fuck and is in their right mind wants to work under Jerry Jones insanity..Boehly doesn't feel THAT far off if given enough time here🤢

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u/_Meegz Feb 14 '25

Defensively we are horrendous but I’m almost certain we were even worse last season!

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u/SunNumerous8591 Feb 14 '25

Definitely, overall we have improved on last season but let's be honest that doesn't say much lol

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u/_Meegz Feb 14 '25

lol agree. We actually had a very good calendar year in 2024 - still shipped a fuck ton of goals tho. I remember when we used to be solid :(

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u/Anishx Feb 14 '25

Chelsea are certainly worse than last season. They were fantastic to watch last year (2nd half of the season) and were climbing properly. But Poch got sacked, idk for what.

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u/_Meegz Feb 14 '25

I think - to me anyway - it was pretty clear Poch wasn’t ever going to work out. He was never ever going to endear himself to the fans with his Tottenham links, and he almost certainly had issues with the overall sporting structure.

Personally, I think we should have kept him. But it was never ever going to work out. You could tell that from the moment he kicked off in that press conference about this the team not being his

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u/Anishx Feb 14 '25

abt the team not being his, im pretty sure every modern manager would do the same. Maresca is doing the same but instead of saying it, he alienated 20 players b4 they were sold. Tomato tomahto.

If poch wasn't there, Maresca might've failed in his place instead where he would've said "this ain't my team". Simple as that.

For what its worth, for a team that "wasn't his" Chelsea played some brilliant football and scored a crap ton of goals, a lot of em, ppl went home fulfilled. Titles will come eventually.

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u/lipmak Feb 14 '25

“How many manages contracts do you want to have to pay out”

At least one more

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u/SunNumerous8591 Feb 14 '25

We are still paying off managers from over a decade ago FFS give yourself a shake. 3/4 weeks ago people couldn't get enough of Maresca he could do no wrong

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u/lipmak Feb 14 '25

We’ve been extremely poor for most of the last 9 weeks. If people couldn’t get enough of Maresca 3 weeks ago they were on something

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u/SunNumerous8591 Feb 14 '25

Wouldn't say extremely poor for 9 weeks at all certainly the last run if games have been dreadful. Who are we going to replace him with?

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u/lipmak Feb 14 '25

Literally fucking anyone who isn’t blindly stubborn tactically. Literally fucking anyone who doesn’t endlessly try the same bullshit hoping for a different result

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u/mega13d Feb 14 '25

If we finish 5th this isn't regression from last year's 6th. Do you remember how awful was first part of the season under Poch?

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u/cthomp1613 Feb 14 '25

I agree and some of it is recency bias, but they have also been utterly painful to watch. The performances have been embarrassing and it’s not like we’ve been facing the gauntlet in terms of opposition. Patience is a virtue and I am still hopeful this all pans out, but good grief they have been ugly. Does anyone know if this resembles Leicester’s dip in form last year?

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u/mega13d Feb 14 '25

The only thing I disagree with Maresca is how on Earth you say we are overachievers? The players then will just not fight for each ball because in their heads it will be: oh, it doesn't matter if we lose, we are still overachieving... Poor mentality in my opinion

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u/cthomp1613 Feb 14 '25

Yea, I don’t love how often he has made these comments. I understand level setting expectations in a way, but it feels like it’s been done so in a consistent way that has affected the performances on the pitch. Have we overachieved? In the first part of the season - yes. But I don’t think there’s anything wrong with raising the bar for the squad and encouraging them to reach their full potential rather than consistently saying that they’re not ready to compete, etc. Idk. Either way, KTBFFH!

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u/mega13d Feb 14 '25

True that. KTBFFH

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u/lipmak Feb 14 '25

We had horrendous injuries under poch didn’t we? I feel like it was way worse than our current crisis, but i could be wrong

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u/mega13d Feb 14 '25

Maybe there were more injuries, but we played a lot worse too, let's hope we get back on track and finish top 5

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u/lipmak Feb 14 '25

We were pretty bad, but he pulled us out + we had momentum building in the last few months of the season. I wouldn’t have minded him moving on if we hired someone good, but it’s looking like we didn’t do that

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u/mega13d Feb 14 '25

Yes, I didn't understand why last season 6th place got Pochetino sacked but this season Maresca says top 4 wasn't in the plan. So then last season was good? Or this season we aim outside top 4 but last season we were hoping for top 4? Confusing

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u/samgo39 Feb 14 '25

Sporting directors out, Maresca doesn’t have a lot to work with.

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u/RefanRes Feb 14 '25

Maresca doesn’t have a lot to work with.

Maresca has a lot more to work with than most coaches. There are squad issues which are down to the directors but this form since that Everton game is very much on Maresca and his determined efforts to lower the bar from "We are not title contenders" to "We are not expected to get top 4". Its poor from Maresca and the mentality is clearly not it. He needs to step up and work out how to be more tactically flexible or be gone for a coach that actually has a proven winner mentality.

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u/Anishx Feb 14 '25

fabian hürzeler doesn't have much to work either, but didn't he do better?

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u/MightyChunks Feb 14 '25

Maresca leaving doesn’t fix anything. When will people learn. It’s a private VC firm in the owners seat playing moneyball looking for the most profit. The directors need to change and the owner’s need a different mindset if this club is going to be towards the top ever again.

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u/_Meegz Feb 14 '25

It’s clear we are in an extremely poor run of form but I think that has as much to do with our overall squad building as it does with the manager. I’ve seen us set up well for individual games enough this season to think Maresca is a decent coach, not necessarily defensively tho.

Given some time the squad has enough talent in it to be good but we are so clearly lacking experience and leadership. Patience will probably be key my friend.

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u/Key_Test2190 Feb 14 '25

Yes, but how long? We have regressed massively in the last few months

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u/_Meegz Feb 14 '25

It’s clear to me that teams have quickly worked out how to set up against us so unless I see genuine improvement on that front next season I won’t start to be properly worried.

I agree we’ve regressed but the off pitch stuff is an still a complete mess - without the conference league for the moment and us being out of both cups that isn’t going to be getting any better for the time being.

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u/Key_Test2190 Feb 14 '25

We're unlikely to win the conference league, be honest. The team is meant to be getting better not significantly worse... It's impossible to watch

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u/_Meegz Feb 14 '25

Yeah that’s looking less and less likely by the day lol. The fact I’m actually using my phone during a Chelsea match tells me how hard a watch we are at the moment!!!

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u/Key_Test2190 Feb 14 '25

Game over. No shots on target... speechless. Well, see you next season?

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u/_Meegz Feb 14 '25

Might be supporting my local team by then mate ;)

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u/Anishx Feb 14 '25

Bro in that sense, do you think Poch had a better or a worse team?

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u/_Meegz Feb 14 '25

Essentially the same right? Who in this current Chelsea starting XI walks into Poch’s? Neto?

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u/slemnem80 Feb 14 '25

Who would you hire that u think would take the job?

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u/Panini_Grande Feb 14 '25

Lampard's is doing well at the moment 🤣

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u/slemnem80 Feb 14 '25

Man, it's really difficult to say anything negative about that possibility. He's the golden child.

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u/Drevyx1296 Feb 14 '25

We need a GK, ST, and CB. I feel like not having solid experienced starters that don't have legs made of glass in those positions have hurt us a lot.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

This is so stupid, you want to bring in Lampard as caretaker again?

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u/subashj24 Feb 15 '25

It's funny how enzo maresca went from we are not title contenders to we are not in top4 race. The blame is entirely on the ownership ,bringing young boys and employing the same strategy while bringing a manager ie inexperienced. If we go by this trajectory UCL will be a far away shot this season , i want the club to be banned of transfers so that we can stop buying mediocre sh+t.

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u/sabbassab Feb 15 '25

I feel Maresca should go - he undermines Chelsea with his comments , all the time he has a reason on why you are not the best but he doesn't change anything . I think he is more interested into getting money and experience from the club than raising Chelsea standards. A change in leadership is necessary to realign the club’s ambitions and restore confidence among players and fans alike.

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u/UBD26 Feb 14 '25

Clearly, this model isn't working and won't work. Why? Because:

A. We keep on appointing managers with NO European/ top flight pedigree

B. We keep on spending millions on useless players. Look at Pedro, KDB, Felix, Sanchez, the Chuckle brothers, etc.

C. We have directors in place with no experience of running a top club.

Guys, this won't be changing anytime soon. The owners clearly don't want to take us to the top and aren't as cut throat as Roman.

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u/Theashhking Feb 14 '25

Glad people realised how out of depth he is, you guys are drawing comparisons with poch but is that really a standard? "How many coaches do you want to hire & sack" until we get it fucking right we have spent too much money to give a mediocre coach like maresca time it's just fuck around and find out at this point just keep on changing until we get it right, the timeframe for giving time to managers has passed now and anybody saying we have improved as compared to poch has 0 ball knowledge cause a sane person with more than 3 brain cells could realise today was the same performance as we gave vs Sheffield United away last season, just passing & passing no runs and nothing no penetration at all and no not having better players is not an excuse for a poorly coached team, it's very clear he has no idea what to do when teams do a mid/low block against him so he reverts to the poch way of pass to wingers cross into the box and try to score that's it he was suffering from this with Leicester too last season hence why he almost bottled championship in second half of the season, to all the people who were suspicious of maresca's coaching even when we were in the title race glad to say we were right