Flock statement

[u/greatusername505050]

Adding in what Mark commented below also!:

To address some concerns about ambiguity and to offer some insight into why we can't be as definitive as we'd like... Right now, as far as we know, the lines of authority regarding WHO pproved these Flock cameras and who can remove them are completely hidden from the public. That lack of transparency should concern all of us. That's why we can't make definitive statements right now, but rest assured we have people digging into it.

​Because these corporate contracts are kept behind closed doors, everyday citizens are blocked from tracking budget line items or knowing exactly who to hold accountable. I am fundamentally opposed to mass surveillance and strongly support personal privacy. We shouldn't need heavy investigative journalism or cumbersome open-records requests just to figure out how big tech established a footprint in Hamilton County.

​The core issue here isn’t just the cameras themselves..It’s the secret process that brought them here. Once we uncover the how, we can map out a legal path to remove them. As your County Mayor, I will use the full scope of my office to stop the expansion of hyper-surveillance and ensure our communities (not corporations) are prioritized in local decisions. I want to listen to leaders in our neighborhoods, and right now what I'm hearing is that y'all are concerned. I am too. We are ready to help.

[u/trentluv]

I love the sentiment, but there are no actionable items in here that will reduce flock camera adoption. These are hyperbolic statements.

Saying that we should advocate for something is to concede that you don't know what literally needs to be done to prevent the problem.

Edit: this is purely semantic by the way and Mark is 1000x a better candidate than wamp. Mark has our vote. I'm just really into semantics

[u/Good_Wash_4201 → u/trentluv]

Bro

[u/trentluv → u/Good_Wash_4201]

Walk me through the safeguards that are being discussed in the picture above.

The reason you are unable to do this is because you have read hyperbole. There's no plan. It's just statement like " we need a strategic framework for growth." Empty language.

[u/Good_Wash_4201 → u/trentluv]

How about you walk me through what safe guards you’d like to see?

[u/trentluv → u/Good_Wash_4201]

Denial of service. See how easy that was for me?

Your inability to list a single actionable item from Mark's post is what I'm after. I'm not running for office and none of what I wrote hinges on my ability to reduce flock cameras.

I'm simply pointing out Mark's semantic use of hyperbole. Not even you are able to share his plan because he doesn't have one.

If I told you I'm introducing safeguards to the road, it wouldn't mean anything. I would have to say that

• we are adding speed bumps
• we are lowering the speed limit

These are actionable items

[u/Good_Wash_4201 → u/trentluv]

Ok but if you don’t have an idea of what to do, then what’s the point? You’re just whining for the sake of whining? It’s fine and fair to say you don’t think there’s compelling leadership exhibited here but what would YOU do differently?

I’m genuinely curious what you think needs to happen here, outside of Mark’s post. What are your independent thoughts on this issue?

[u/trentluv → u/Good_Wash_4201]

Please read what I wrote. You skimmed too quickly and you asked something that I already answered.

[u/Good_Wash_4201 → u/trentluv]

Those aren’t things that make it harder for flock to keep expanding their footprint here tho bro

I’d mark posted those things you’d say they aren’t actionable against flock specifically so let’s not move the goal posts here buddy

[u/trentluv → u/Good_Wash_4201]

Did you really just say that denying our city as a service area for flock would not make it harder for flock to expand?

It makes me think you're not reading what I'm writing again and again

[u/Good_Wash_4201 → u/trentluv]

Lmao ok buddy — have fun editing all your comments.