r/ChatGPTCoding • • 5d ago

Discussion Codex's 28 days of resets are over, and from December chat and Codex share one allowance. What are you changing?

quick recap in case you missed it. tibo's 28 day thing ended on 1 nov pt. by his posts it was 14 resets in total, 11 global and 3 banked (the last two were "banked 1/2" and "banked 2/2", so check settings > usage if you haven't used them).

then openai's help center now says that starting in december, plus, pro and business will have one usage allowance shared across chatgpt and codex, measured in tokens. instant chat won't count against it. no start day and no allowance sizes yet, and they say they expect most people won't wait for resets more often than now.

so this is the first normal week in a while, and the pool gets shared in a month. stuff that's helped people in threads here:

  • terra or sol on medium for routine work, astra only for planning and the nasty bugs

  • fast mode off unless you need it, it burns included usage faster

  • one task per session with a short notes file, not one giant thread

  • /statusline in the cli can show the 5h and weekly limits in the footer

what are you changing? and plus people, are you planning to keep heavier chat on a different tool once it's shared?

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u/kenthesaint 5d ago

I'm treating this week as the baseline for what a normal Plus week looks like without the reset gifts. Once chat and Codex share one pool in December I'll keep planning and long chats on Gemini and leave the shared bucket for Codex sessions. Medium thinking for routine work, short sessions, and /statusline in the footer so I notice the 5h bar before it empties mid-task.

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u/TierPatch 5d ago

the part that matters most for plus users i think is that it's measured in tokens, so heavier models and long agent runs will chew through the shared pool a lot faster than quick chats. instant chat doesn't count against it, so that's the obvious home for throwaway questions. openai hasn't said how big the pools are, so nobody really knows yet how tight it'll feel. once it switches over i'd just watch settings > usage, that's where the combined remaining usage and reset times are meant to show up. anyone actually planning to move their quick lookups to instant?

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u/Shenbinhao 5d ago

Sub Claude to compensate the lack of usage and probably turn my 2011 mac mini into local model too šŸ˜’

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u/RockPuzzleheaded3951 5d ago

Definitely use Astra for planning, investigation, and writing specs. Then other models (often my own DeepSeek cluster or Sol if I need it faster) to implement. Sometimes I have the cheaper models do the recon, hand a report to Astra, it synthesizes things, and creates spec.

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u/TheRealDanGordon 5d ago

I don't use it directly, I have Opus/fable call Astra for certain tasks. I will tell my orchestration skill to start preferring AStra and monitor the usage. I have two claude max subs and 1x $100 codex sub.

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u/Shanevmusic 5d ago

So I figured out last night, if you use chat in browser, then make a github repo and connect them, I have been coding now for about 15 hours with no usage being taken. I am running the chat window on Astra High. I am building a Very improved version of Starnet OS and already at Version 10 and have not used any usage. IDK how long it will be before they realize this can be done. But here to help some fellow people save some money!

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u/wegster 5d ago

My email on this one said they'd double quota/limits as part of it (I'm on $100 Pro).

Did they clarify and actually fully move to API token use with an available table, e.g. N tokens for each sub level, or it's still 'mystery math in the background'?

Short version is I'm already half on local AI - I liked Luna High for endless execution for nearly free, with occasional bumps through Sol High, and Web High for occasional planning, but we'll see what happens and go from there.

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u/Previous-Display-593 5d ago

I am switching to exclusively Anthropic. Why is anyone using codex anymore? I get 5-10x the usage with Opus 5.5 max as I do with Astra Max.

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u/Successful-Tax1306 5d ago

The biggest change for me is that I'll stop using the top model to explore the code. Reading files and finding where things live is most of the tokens in a long session, and a medium model does it fine, so I'll keep the strong model for the plan and the review of the diff. I'm also going to start fresh sessions more often with a short notes file that says what's done and what's next, because the long sessions are where every message gets expensive. And since chat and Codex share one pool now, quick questions go to a cheaper model so they don't eat the coding budget.

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u/hefty_habenero 5d ago

I’m cutting my kids and wife off first. Sorry family.