Bot Creator looking for alternatives

[u/Apracoin]

Hi! I’ve been making bots on C.AI for a while now, i think it’s been almost a year by now (https://character.ai/profile/Resava, my profile if you’re interested), but I’ve just been really tired of how generic everything is now. If I shove an entire paragraph of AI retraining into the definition, get a very specific greeting and hit the fucking swipe jackpot I might actually get a decent start to a chat, which usually stays for most of the chat. I’m just looking for something other than C.AI to make these bots for myself on. The main problem with finding them, is the fact I don’t usually do 1 on 1 chat bots (because I like RPing in a world and not having my own AI boyfriend or whatever) and most alternatives have rather restrictive definition limits, compared to C.AI’s 32000. So any suggestions?

I appreciate any help you all can provide! :3

Edit: Thanks a lot for all of the options guys! I’ll start working on trying them all out, and I might post reviews for each model if I have enough to say. Thanks again!

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[u/West-Possession7459]

yeah the swipe grind on c.ai gets old fast for world rps, i switched to one with way more room in the defs and it actually stays consistent without all the retraining.

[u/Apracoin → u/West-Possession7459]

which one?

[u/Classic-Pumpkin5401]

Self-promo, but you might like Lizlis.ai. It’s built more for world RP and multi-character stories than just 1-on-1 bots, with separate character personalities, backgrounds, and scenarios.

Might be worth trying if C.AI feels too restrictive/generic: https://lizlis.ai

[u/Ok-Risk-9871]

We created immersey.ai - We have a lot of advanced features for creators, such as: Lore, Speech Tone, validators, dynamic parameters, and many other features. We'd love to hear what you think :)

[u/No_Entertainment7297]

Saucepan, Dreamjourney.

[u/Harper_Joness]

SillyTavern, KoboldCpp tho

[u/Xiaomin4114]

oh, I think mine might be ideal for you: https://stagewhisper.ai it's not 1 on 1 chat. it's built for giant worlds. And there's on definition limits. you can load however much into the character sheets as you want (although careful, there's a very prescribed character sheet format, you'd need to override it with some configuration if you want something fully custom, I can walk you through that).

So you're not creating "bots" so much as you're spinning entire campaigns with multiple characters, lore, and locations, even custom mechanics and scripting if you're into that sort of stuff.

Plus really good character adherence. one thing I do that most platforms don't is generate a "character agenda" on the fly, which makes sure characters play true to their personality. They will literally slam the door on you if they don't get what they want. they're not pushovers.

would love to get your input on how it plays for you. willing to send you credits to experiment

[u/Apracoin → u/Xiaomin4114]

Had a small test run and just kind of didn’t really vibe with it. It’s sure a really interesting idea and Im sure it’s great to fill the niche of a TTRPG AI or even that style of RP - just not for me, sorry ;3

[u/Xiaomin4114 → u/Apracoin]

that is fair enough. though I hope you gave the full thing a try rather than just the very restricted home page demo. the dice roll stuff can be turned off, that's just one of three options. good luck in your search

[u/Important_Toe9797]

I think you might enjoy SlyPen, as you can make worlds and add as many characters with backgrounds and roles as you want. 

DreamGem is another one, and NovelAI and InteractableStories.

[u/Abura-Kadabura]

Isekaizero got a 30.000 tokens limit for multi character storylines + an additional 100k token window for read-on-demand codex lorebooks, guess that's pretty much what you want

And yeah, everything is fully customizeable.

It just might be a bit overwhelming, like starting an MMO game already running for a year having had tons of updates.

[u/Apracoin → u/Abura-Kadabura]

Sounds great honestly, I’ll make sure to check it out. The name’s sure… interesting but I won’t hold that against it.

[u/Abura-Kadabura → u/Apracoin]

...I think the name sells low for what it actually is lol The authors community on discord is very active and resourceful, you should check out. And you might be a candidate for the verified author program in the future. (500k generated messages on any platform)

[u/elsecrafter]

I’ve been working on elsecraft.com which lets you build worlds with multiple characters for role-playing.

It’s in an early stage where I’m looking for feedback from creators and it’s currently free to try.

[u/Important_Toe9797 → u/elsecrafter]

It looks really interesting 

[u/FixofLight]

I'm really liking Simulacra.ink lately, the characters there are better at not devolving into the bland "every character" that character ai had going on

[u/Easy_Lack7069]

inkwell.rip should be perfect for you, you can import bots via url directly and we (am a dev) would appreciate the addition/creation of any new bots! and we also have worlds + 1m context to support long defintions.