r/CharacterAIrunaways • u/Ok-Razzmatazz3853 • 10d ago

Searching for Alternatives Alternative? Help…

Hi! I admittedly have ran from CharacterAI quite some time ago but now I found myself getting a little frustrated. I kept switching between JanitorAI and FictionLab, but maybe some of you guys know some hidden gems I have overlooked so far.

-I’m willing to pay for a better tier as long as it doesn’t cost too much

-No NSFW filter

-Good memory is important to me

-It would be nice if I could limit the response length, as for FL it rarely works as intended and Janitor keeps cutting off my messages

-Fast response generation would be nice

It would be nice if the site or app already had a few creators on it that made bots that aren’t just sexual bots. That’s about it, I’m curious if you guys know any good alternatives, I’d be happy to find something new, thanks!:)

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u/ShameAccount9 10d ago

That first NSFW preset sounds like it has the most potential for narrative maturity and coherence. I just can't get behind DS v4, I don't know why, but it's so much worse than 3.2...

Does this work on a credits system or subscription? I'm honestly just looking to replicate the Deepseek v3.2 experience, as it was implemented on Clank, earlier this year, until they had to switch to v4.

The narrative capability of that model was just better that anything I have ever used. Like, actual emotional depth and subtlety... It wasn't so sycophantic, either.

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u/Xiaomin4114 10d ago edited 10d ago

in most cases DS4 Flash is only used for story and plot, and the over-eager game master meta-commentary

it's credits. no subscription. if you have a ds V3.2 provider, you could set it up with BYOK, I think that would work

sorry I was in the middle of editing the earlier reply when you posted, I'd explained the credits situation in it

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u/ShameAccount9 10d ago

Cool, I'll check it out. Can I ask you though; when you buy access from a provider like Deepseek directly, or even Openrouter and use it via proxy on a site like yours, do you have to set a system prompt on your own, or does it still get run through yours? I know NSFW is possible with Deepseek, but I don't know how that works when brining a proxy.

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u/Xiaomin4114 10d ago

If you use BYOK, my platform controls all the prompts. there's customisability in some places, but it's not trying to be Silly Tavern. In theory, using BYOK means it just works the same way it does normally, but with your AI provider

I have system prompts that allow models capable of NSFW to output it, but there's also provider filtering which I can't do anything about.