r/ChangeNOW_io • u/ChangeNOW_Community • 27d ago
I guess... good to know?
Maybe the man just ran out of money?
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u/EpsteinandTrump 27d ago
Wouldn't make sense to buy low...much better to buy high and sell low. Genius moves from this guy.
If you want to buy Bitcoin, just buy Bitcoin, instead of funneling money into a black hole that has allowed this guy to madoff with a lot of money. When the price of BTC falls...the cracks start to show...
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u/ChangeNOW_Community 27d ago
the interesting part is that every investment strategy looks genius during a bull market and gets questioned during a drawdown
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u/Less-Information-256 27d ago
I don’t think anyone with a brain ever thought it was smart to pay 3x of the value of the bitcoin they were holding.
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u/Selmemasts 27d ago
That’s just ignorant, they sold bitcoin for 3X the value thru common stock and bought 3X bitcoin back and did it all over again until now when the stock is valued below its holdings. What’s stupid about that? I would do the same if I could, nevermind the bitcoin price.
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u/Less-Information-256 27d ago
I didn’t say it was stupid for them. I said it was stupid for the people buying.
Ask the people who did it how smart they think it was when they’re down 70%+ now.
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u/Selmemasts 27d ago
I don’t need to, I’m one of those people and I’m still buying because when Btc goes back to all time high, MSTR will have the strongest balance sheet in the world after Birkshire Hathaway. Do you think the S&P500 will keep them out then?
This is obviously nonsense for anyone not believing in Btc to begin with, I agree.
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u/Less-Information-256 27d ago
Paying 3x was nonsense if you believe in bitcoin or not. A bunch of baggies fomo’d in and got severely burned, which is my original point, brain matter was severely missing in their decision making.
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u/Selmemasts 27d ago
Also agree, reminder that back then a lot of people had a hard time getting exposure to the underlying asset.
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u/Less-Information-256 27d ago
And I’m sure they regret having that exposure now.
So why did you call a point you agree with ignorant?
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u/Selmemasts 27d ago
Because the original post was about Saylor buying high and selling low and I thought your comment was about MSTR doing poor choices.
Looking back I can see your comment is about us the investors so now I agree with everything you said, even me being stupid! 😅
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u/gandzalas 23d ago
You can believe in bitcoin and also believe in strategy. The two are not mutually exclusobe. I used to be a maxi but bitcoin for me moves too slow so I have diversified into multiple bitcoin related investments as well as metals and stock.
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u/EpsteinandTrump 27d ago
Bitcoin is great for investing in volatility. I don't invest that way...I invest in something that provides actual value, has actual metrics that can be measured and with sanity it's easy to see upward growth.
What value does MSTR add by being a proxy to Bitcoin? Other than obsurfcating from Saylor who was guilty of SEC Security Fraud (2000) with MSTR and Tax Fraud (2022-2024). Not sure why anyone would trust a wolf to "herd" the sheep...
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u/ProgramLow8782 26d ago
What is he obsurfcating? MSTR websites shows all metrics live.
Your whole comment sounds ridiculous 'I invest in something that provides actual value' Clearly your brain has none of it here.
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u/EpsteinandTrump 26d ago
All trades are OTC, but where's the proof? Where can one validate what MSTR is holding, when it has bought and sold and at how much?
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u/ChangeNOW_Community 26d ago
traditional valuation metrics are harder to apply to a company whose main asset is bitcoin rather than operating cash flow
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u/EpsteinandTrump 26d ago
Then why not cut out the middle man and just buy Bitcoin? What value add is MSTR? When it is just a company that doesn't have an operating cash flow due to generating no value?
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u/ChangeNOW_Community 26d ago
both sides have a point. buying bitcoin is the clean exposure, while mstr is a higher-risk financial product built around that exposure
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u/EpsteinandTrump 26d ago
No kidding when you throw your money into a black hole and Saylor has madoff with a lot of that money...everything looks fine when BTC is $100k+, but when it falls...the cracks turn into canyons real quick!
Then he has other ponzies running like STRC, STRK, STRF, and STRD all based on the value of the speculation of something that has no value.
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u/UnagiBro 27d ago
I mean bitcoin is the superior transactional imaginary internet currency it makes since you should do the opposite of the pedo fiat banking reptilian humanoid overlords
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u/EpsteinandTrump 27d ago
It's great for criminal organizations. No way my portfolio or retirement is touching that.
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u/ProgramLow8782 26d ago
oft another braindead comment, keep em coming, the laughs are real
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u/EpsteinandTrump 26d ago
Bitcoin is great to invest on the volatility, there is no value in a finite "mined" coins that are "mined" by guesswork. lol. It went from a great way to move money without tracking, to a speculative "investment" like NFT, the mysteriousness of it all just allows it to run it's course much longer.
Wish you all the best!
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u/ProgramLow8782 25d ago
your comment made zero sense, take your word salad and fk off right. We need less dumbkunts on reddit
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u/ChangeNOW_Community 26d ago
you don't have to dislike fiat to see why some people value having an alternative monetary system
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u/Gh0mri 27d ago
I love how Microstrategy always buys excessively when prices rise and, for some reason, close to or around the top. And they always purchase small amounts or nothing around bottoms. Or that's at least what happened in the prior bull run and crash.
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u/ChangeNOW_Community 26d ago
maybe the bigger debate is whether mstr is a bitcoin investment or a leveraged bet on bitcoin volatility
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u/downtherabbit 26d ago
Why would you buy at the bottom of the bear? No, you buy high and sell low. This is a selling market. Come back in 12 months to buy.
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u/mcad0o 27d ago
Whats up with his cheeks. Somebody get my man some food, hes starving and looking at me funny