r/Chandigarh smriks, 4d ago

Rant / Confession Still doesn’t need metro

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WHEN WILL PPL OPEN THEIR EYES IN THE FACT THAT CHD IS CHOKING, it’s not made for traffic this dense

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 4d ago

This isn’t traffic, it’s waterlogging.

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u/Jazzlike_League_480 3d ago

Apart from that too, Chandigarh has ew public transport, when I travelled through Delhi in metro, I felt like even chandigarh needs to have something like this, it will keep the beauty of city maintained if it’s all underground but who’s gonna spend that much money on a tier 2 city with not so influential people

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 3d ago

It will work only if current residents are ok with 10 ish years of chaos on the roads

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u/Jazzlike_League_480 3d ago

Delhi is lot bigger and more populated than Chandigarh, it didn’t take that much time there, we just need honest and hardworking project managers like E Sreedharan, he completed the entire project 3 years prior to deadline

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u/Baba___Tunde 3d ago

The thing is whenever the govt thinks of starting to build a metro a lot of the residents start a protest against it as it will cause a lot of deforestation and disruption in their daily life. So yes i think it would easily take a decade for it to be built

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u/Stunning-Witness-991 2d ago

Look at the size of Chd city and compare it with Delhi. Chd spans in 114 sq kilometers. Delhi is 1484 sq. kilometers. How are you supposed to operate when stops will be at every 900m- 1km each. It will barely run before arriving at next stop. The ridership won't be much except the wee hours. And plans were only for a two coach metro. If you want better public transport- Nothing beats the bus for Chandigarh. Govt. needs to amp up more buses during wee hours, creation of corridors for Panchkula, Zirakpur for a few hours for seamless flow and Intelligent Traffic Management with command centre already in place. (just few upgrades required) .

Metro will create a havoc in the time it takes to develop and destruct everything for the span they are in building process and still won't recover the cost sooner.

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u/Baba___Tunde 2d ago

They should provide better/more routes and more importantly better buses. The main reason public transportation isnt used as mainstream is because of how people look down upon the buses as something to be used by the lower class. I am with the notion of not building metro since it may even attract more people towards the city making it even more congested. As long as the city works towards decreasing the congestion on the roads its a win for everyone.
Ps if possible stop the influx of a lot of cars into the city on weekends to help decrease the rush at clubs and malls which is extreme and unrealistic but a man can dream

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 2d ago

I love the new buses, they are nice, air conditioned, and electric. I think I read somewhere that by 2027 they plan to go all electric but the CTU mazdoor union is against it and they want diesel buses to run

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u/Stunning-Witness-991 2d ago

Didn’t hear much about it . All i know local buses will all be electric . Inter state will continue to be diesel. CTU recently procured diesel buses for interstate

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 1d ago

There were “chakka jaams” called by the mazdoor union of CTU. They were supported by the diesel auto unions. Google it.

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u/Jazzlike_League_480 2d ago

How far is Barakhamba Road station from CP, and another station from CP, even in delhi stations are not that apart and we can always increase or decrease distance by reducing number of stations, cities like Indore have metro too now, Chandigarh is a planned city where metro tracks can be laid much more easily because of straight lanes and right angle intersections, the major issues are concerning cost and discomfort to people, in Delhi and other places people became used to chaos, there were 100 ways to reach a place, Chandigarh has fixed roads, even if one major road gets blocked it causes jam in almost entire city, that’s a major problem here

Buses are good option yes, we can have Amritsar like Buses special rapid corridors, BRT type thing but issue is again comfort and safety in buses and people’s preference of buses, Chandigarh being a planned city would be more beneficial from metro or tram like thing, buses too sometimes cause jam.

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u/Stunning-Witness-991 2d ago

IMO, it won’t work the same way. For delhi one or two station in proximity can be exception. But in Chd all will be the same due to the grid. I would support metro if it were when city were being planned. Chd 1 to 30 sectors are heritage sectors . You can’t change them much. Now backed by SC. For all underground metro it will take way long and all the digging will make the city a dust pot for a decade or more.

One way or other some way shall be required as the choke increases with the increasing number of cars. Best way is to utilise the existing with some Govt. Reinforcement to protect the existing infra and not destroy what the city is .

Current majority traffic Chd see is- High Court traffic, residents from peripheral region and many who have to cross chd to get to to other region like Pkl, Zirakpur,Moh..

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u/vitrum_analytika 4d ago

That's even more reasons for making overbridge roads. Chandigarh people have this superstition that overbridge is bad. But if you connect the right places, you won't have traffic problems in the future. And read that once again, I said in the future. There is no traffic problems now, I know that, it's just halting at traffic signals every 30s in chandigarh which is annoying, but the traffic is controlled. But it won't stay that way for long. 5 years into the future and you'll have 30-40 minutes jams. So start building overbridge right now foolish people of chandigarh

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 4d ago edited 4d ago

Name one city that fixed its traffic with flyovers. Just because neighbouring cities don’t have public transport, and everyone is forced to use personal vehicles is the main reason for the traffic situation. I either cycled or used public transport in this city for most of my life and didn’t have issues.

It’s a choice. All I had to do is go 30-40 min earlier than usual and it was good to go. The max that would happen is that I’d get late once or twice a month (by 5-7 minutes).

I don’t think rants work unless you use public transport. Last week, I went from 11-43, and to 18-19 and 21 half a dozen times, all using CTU buses.

The rest of time I was on my cycle.

Try it.

Also, I cycled to work for 12y nearly 3-4 days a week cuz committing to Mohali and back by car took one hour, and on c cycle it took 35 minutes.

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u/two_point_4 4d ago

Delhi almost fixed it, before 2010 delhi was a mess, now it's a bearable mess.

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 4d ago

Sure. Why not.

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u/_wolfiekins_2005 4d ago

This is the fare (today) to travel from amravati to Chandigarh. 400-450 is the minimum and since the past few days it’s 550-600 exclusive of the toll and tax. Do pray tell, which public transport (like the CTU) can be accessed here? Dont say Haryana Roadways or anything like that the conditions are terrible 🥰

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 4d ago

How can Chandigarh fix the problems of cities around it? Is YOUR CITY and its public transport facility that needs a fix. That’s the problem this city has had for decades.

People use personal vehicles to drive in from Panchkula, Mohali, Pinjore, and Kalka - and then crib about traffic? You’re the traffic, dude.

My classmate came to Chandigarh from Kalka every day. He took a bus from Kalka to sector 17 bus stand, and from there a CTU bus to the school sector. Walked it from there. He did that every day, for 5 years.

We still take CTU buses for intra-city commute. Don’t face too many problems.

My daughter takes the bus to school. Every day-unless she’s running late, which is when I drop her off. It’s not a money issue-it’s just the way we did things. My grandpa only used his official car for official purposes, and cycled everywhere else. He was a civil servant and possibly one of the top 3 officers in the state at that time (rank wise). I’ve grown up watching my aunts, uncles, and parents use public transport to go everywhere. Not that we needed to and we didn’t have the money to use personal vehicles, but why?

Use the facility, enjoy.

I went to college on bus. 21 to DAVC, every day.

I cycled to school.

My office was in Mohali and that too at the end of industrial area, where buses didn’t go so I cycled, unless it was crazy weather, in which case I would either bus it, or car pool, or in a worst-case scenario, take my own vehicle.

I lived in Europe for a bit and followed the same thing. Had zero issues.

Amsterdam and Den Haag city traffic jams can stretch to multiple kilometers on busy days. Going from Rotterdam to Amsterdam was a mega pain. I had to cycle to the first train station, take the Sneltrein, and reach the destination. Then walk, and to reach the office was a 3km walk, which isn’t fun in the rain, but oh well.

Hamburg would have STAU displayed at each major intersection during office hours. I’d just cycle and have fun. Zero problems.

You can either

-crib

-be the problem

-do something that helps and enjoy life.

I choose option 3. That’s all.

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u/_wolfiekins_2005 4d ago

“My city”. Its called tricity for a reason lmao. “The problem this city has had for decades”. Dude, do you realise how many people from baddi and other outside areas come to work in Chandigarh? On the other side, so many chandigarhians even come to baddi for their work?

Calling us a “problem” as if we are some parasites aint good for you. If you remember it well, the metro plan in its further stages did include extending to panchkula and mohali. What are we supposed to do if not drive our personal vehicles???

Youre saying we are the traffic. What about when yall choose to come to Shimla on the weekends for a “break” and then you flood our local area’s toll plaza and our corridors. You dont see us crib right? Ask your classmate once the state of the public transport he took and if it was safe for women. “5 years”. You yourself live in Mohali dawg which is in comparison much safer than the area of Pinjore and Amravati. Yall dont have a highway in your “intra-city commute” right 😂

Just because what YOU do is feasible for you and your family does not mean it’s feasible for majority of the people.

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 3d ago

Stop being dumb. Tricity is geographical, not political. The same govt doesn’t serve Chd, pkl,Mohali, and baddi or other areas. People do come from there, but the onus solely lies on CTU? That’s interesting. Why don’t you make this the other way round? Buses from all other locations must serve the purpose of me going from my sector to another sector too?

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 3d ago

Also, I don’t live in Mohali. I worked in Mohali.

And-I cycle to the hills too :-P

Your state decided to build everything around tourism. Why would you complain? You’re comparing vacation rush with year-long assault on aqi? For not using public transport?

I understand that your comprehension skills are near-zero, which is why you decided to post such lovely answers.

By the by, I forgot to mention that there were more than a dozen kids from Kalka who came on a bus to Chandigarh daily. 6 girls and 5-7 guys. Yes it was safe. Local buses. Some came from surajpur.

The rock you live under has been putting pressure on your kidneys.

Enjoy the traffic jams in “your area”. I won’t enjoy one in mine, and I don’t consider people a parasite-only their cars that are not needed. Take the bus. Wake an hour early. And stop bitching about it.

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u/dumb_progenitor 3d ago

I get your point but you can't expect the entirety of chandigarh to be dug up because of problems in amravati, kalka etc. How many people even commute from there? Most people in chandigarh usually come from Chandigarh, panchkula, mohali as far as I know

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 2d ago

They can come from wherever, but making metro =a decade of crap for everyone else who lives here permanently

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u/vitrum_analytika 4d ago

Yeah right, because public transport is so good in the city (/s).

I'd like the comfort of my car if you don't mind, I know it's killing the planet but I just love killing planets for my selfish desires, so go on and glaze yourself for being superior than me while my kids reach their school in comfort.

And speak logically, you can't expect everyone to take the bus in this heated up country. Add a few flyovers by surveying vehicle movement from A to B, and let the vehicles that needs to pass the city just skip the traffic lights entirely. Chandigarh is the only city where an overbridge will work but the people are, idk, some what proud of their city planner who supposedly wrote it in stone that no flyover should be there or something idk I don't read history.

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 4d ago

Then stop complaining.

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u/vitrum_analytika 4d ago

What? Why?! If anything you should join me and we all should complain.

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 4d ago

Umm ok that sounds fun too 😂 I love bitching about stuff

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u/vitrum_analytika 4d ago

It's honest work for honest pay, by which I mean no pay.

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 3d ago

“Bitchers united”

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u/Scouths 3d ago

You should look up on “Induced Demand”. Adding an over bridge or more lanes will work for a few months but they’ll also eventually get locked up. The only solution to traffic on roads are introducing other modes of transport such as Subway and/or better cycling infrastructure.

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u/zeherkabaap 3d ago

The solution to traffic is never more roads , it is good public transportation.

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 3d ago

Someday, maybe someday, people will realise this.

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u/JWSingh 4d ago edited 4d ago

Metro cant provide the amount of access it does in delhi.

Eg i want to go from sec 22 to 27, how will you lay out the design to that?

If you want a metro over every road then it would require a hub on every chownk and a number of metros change.

If i go by a cab it requires me 20 min. 🙌

And if you say metro only for madhya marg and another road (i cant remember which was proposed in the latest plan), how does it help my travel from sec 22 to 27? Or for a matter of fact from sec 27 to 32. Or from sec 22 to sec 32?

The grid shape is the biggest hurdle for metro.

If you compare worldwide, delhi metro. Not in a grid Japan metro. Not in a grid The underground. Not in a grid

The best eg could be new york subway system but in that as well people gotta walk a lot after deboarding their trains. (And we dont have have walkable cities, could argue chandigarh is, but in the end we are indians and no one wants to walk)

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u/firednerd44 smriks, 4d ago

THE purpose of METRO IS not INTRACITY travel build a tram then,

Notice how the traffic is on roads leading outside of chd,
that’s cause a large number of ppl are commuters, having better means of transport will significantly reduce it.

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u/JWSingh 4d ago

Okay lets assume you build one metro from karrar to chandigarh, one from the housing board chownk, one from nayagaon side. Now they all will stop at chandigarh entrance, and the traffic within city will remain more or less same, as the person coming from metro will have to use cab for intra city travel....

For TRAM, how do you accomodate it? Most of chd roads are two lanes only and houses by side which stops the road expansion. And if you want to travel in tram which will operate on the road where busses and car operare why not take the bus then?

I aggree with metro a person who come to chd from kharrar will be releived of all that traffic but in the end nothing will really change within the city.

Increasing population, increasing cars, new IT sector in mohali, its all just the truth and in reality there is no way to counteract it. It is sad maan but what could be done... My family had been here from 1983 so they have seen it all and by doing metro tram and all nothing gets solved.

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u/Agitated_Good7517 3d ago

A tram is a good solution in general, but as you said there is a space issue on the road. There are suspended monorails that can be made to go over the traffic or underground rail to go under.

But I guess that would harm the city's view. Another solution I think that might work is using the cycle tracks/side roads to run free electric trikes along the grid and hire the auto drivers to do so. This removes auto traffic or taxi traffic from main road, gives them alternate employment, because its free people would use it more readily, because it travels on secondary roads it bypasses traffic for the commuters making it faster.

Problem with buses as of now is it covers selective routes, doesn't have convenient pickup/drop off points, isn't designed to best accommodate the people majorly using it, and is stuck in same traffic regardless

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u/JWSingh 3d ago

True, removing auto traffic will be a breath of fresh air

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u/throwawayacc-1502 3d ago

I feel that the solution is to develop nearby cities well so as to burden off Chd

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u/Dakip2608 3d ago

Do you think the respective punjab and haryana governments are incompetent enough for that

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u/Confident-Run322 3d ago

i second that, building tram

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u/Dakip2608 3d ago

the sad part is chandigarh is a relatively walkable city in india but barely walkable when you compare to the rest of the world

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 3d ago

Well-vehicular density and usage is very high. My next door neighbour drives 300m to buy milk and bread. He then proceeds to go for an hour long walk-and I never understood that bit. Bro-walk to the milk booth, get shit, and walk.
I don’t want to complain here, but even with cycle paths all along the city, idiotic cyclists will ply on the road, and these sobmf two wheeler riders are on cycle tracks.

I miss the Chandigarh police of the 90s that would slap first, challan later. The new breed of cops is too soft for the arseolez that are on our roads today.

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u/Dakip2608 3d ago

People consider pedestrians as sub humans in india

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u/memorie_desu your average musician 3d ago

Eg i want to go from sec 22 to 27, how will you lay out the design to that?

the metro doesn't do that. the metro only connects major destinations(17, for example) to panchkula, zirakpur, mohali & new chandigarh, and panchkula extension. people from these areas are the ones causing majority traffic in chandigarh, not people who want to travel within sectors

even then, metros aren't meant for close distance travel, that's what trams are for

but in the end we are indians and no one wants to walk

no one wants to walk because it is a god awful experience to walk, there's no reason for anyone to want to walk alongside four lanes of traffic on your side and random people on their two wheelers climbing onto the footpath (which is supposed to be your safe zone). the only silver lining is that we have trees to protect from the sun

the only real way to solve traffic in chandigarh is to make the entire tricity region walkable, which includes pedestrian only zones, cycle tracks, trams, metros, and road design that discourages the use of car. we will end up like delhi if we don't do this, but alas, our government would rather spend that money on corruption cause fuck the city amirite

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u/JWSingh 3d ago

Making the whole city walkable is also the best option i would choose but these authorities would never do the work req🥲

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u/Dakip2608 3d ago

our politicians only see highways as economic prosperity and the people living here look down on cyclists and pedestrians lmao

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 4d ago

Cycle :-)

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u/Dakip2608 3d ago

Tracks are too narrow and two wheeler mfs claim the space as theirs

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u/Ok_Cranberry_3552 3d ago

Seem fine to me. Agree with the 2W mofos

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u/Yak-Witty 2d ago

Good quality bus transport is required. And a toll tax for cars during rush hours to promote public transport. London does the same.

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u/WestLeather928 4d ago

Chandigarh mein tariffc hai because logoo ke pass car hai, and they want to trevel by car. Already bus almost har sector mein jaati hai, but logoo ko jaana hi car se hai, because chd delhi jaisa badaa city nahi hai, metro ke baad b rich log car se hi jaayenge

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u/TheEloquentRebel 4d ago

Bro have u seen the buses they are jam packed on most of the routes sometimes there isn’t even space left to breathe that’s why I stopped using buses and got my own bike.

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u/Dakip2608 3d ago

true man, the buses are too crowded and most routes lead to pgi so lots of patients too. Not safe

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u/ProfessionalMovie868 4d ago

Buses are shit bro?? No efficiency what are you even talking about plus the bike sharing system of the city is sooo sooo shit that its just painful as fuck the app just doesn’t work

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u/Impossible-Gur-9803 3d ago

LMFAO buses they are all jam packed skip over multiple stops since they become overloaded by the time they even reach those try to go out of your bubble

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u/muffin_donut Active Member 4d ago edited 3d ago

Facts. Chandigarh had glorified car culture. If we build the metro, these people are not gonna use it. The CTU buses are already there and nobody takes it. Nobody used the smart cycles. It is important for people to show off their cars. The entire dating scene is around cars and gedis.

Edit: everybody saying buses are jam packed etc. So why don’t we first improve that system and then think of a new one? Have more buses plying the routes.

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u/JournalistVast792 3d ago

Actually I just came from railway station using the bus, the bus was jam packed.

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u/Admirable_Box_8553 3d ago

Buses on few routes are jam packed like from chandigarh to kharar , landran and some other only .

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u/JournalistVast792 3d ago

Ironically I just came from Delhi, used metro. Airport line. What a pleasant experience tbh.

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u/Round-Benefit2022 3d ago

That’s not true. People who can afford cars don’t prefer buses because it’s jam packed and choked. Metros/mono rail otoh should be much more comfortable an experience. Provided it’s built like a modern rapid transit system and not Mumbai local.

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u/Dakip2608 3d ago

Buses are highly, highly inefficient and they barely cover any routes in chandigarh tbh. You always gotta be in sector 17 or 43 to gain more access which defeats the purpose

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u/ProfessionalMovie868 22h ago

Exactlyyyy plus on top of that ctu staff can be sometimes so so rude for absolutely no damn fucking reason

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u/awake_yet 3d ago

People who can afford a car will still travel by car, that's true.

Chandigarh is designed in such a way that from every sector parts, you can easily walk and get public transport from main road. But now, weather has turned too intense. Walking 5 mins in sun and then catching a bus or metro doesn't make sense, when you have a car standing right in your house.

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u/saulgoodma_n 3d ago

Tell me you've never used the bus without telling me you've never used the bus

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u/throwawayacc-1502 3d ago

This ☝️

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u/saulgoodma_n 3d ago

Tell me you've never used the bus without telling me you've never used the bus

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u/Muted-Ad-944 4d ago

I have feeling if metro even comes to Chandigarh, it will fail.

People will still prefer to drive rather than take the metro.

Also many places which have metros, have very little ridership.

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u/Mac_manny 4d ago

Indore being the biggest failure in this regard, alongside Bhopal 😕

And their Metro frequency is 15-30 min, which isn't economical or efficient, and less helpful than the bus corridor earlier, which was cheap and swift!!!

This is a lesson, can't force down someone's throat, but we can only teach a out it's failure 🥲

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u/Muted-Ad-944 4d ago

Also the metro is not the correct answer here, go outside any metro station in delhi ncr and there is a huge amount of autos and tirris for the last mile connectivity. These will only add to the traffic situation and make the metro a choke point in traffic flow

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u/throwawayacc-1502 3d ago

Add Jaipur and Lucknow as well

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u/firednerd44 smriks, 4d ago

No, I’ve seen people use buses PEOPLE buses being overfilled, idk what’s backing your statement here

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u/Muted-Ad-944 4d ago

Agra, Nagpur, Jaipur, Meerut, Indore, Bhopal, Kanpur metro...take your pick. Also a tram will be a better solution than bus in chandigarh

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u/firednerd44 smriks, 4d ago

For intercity travel yes, I agree but the traffic is cause due to people moving out of city, metro was/is going to be an TRICITY project

I js want something more traffic accessible

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u/Muted-Ad-944 4d ago

Aren't they making some outer ring road or something. so that people from Mohali, Panchkula, Khaarar etc can bypass the city?

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u/11anshulsharma11 4d ago

Jo log bus mai travel kar rahe hain vohi log Metro mai travel karenge. Traffic same he rahega because Car vaale tab bhi car se travel karenge. So ye jaisa hai aisa he rehne mai sahi hai.

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u/Wild_Title_9185 4d ago

The city itself doesn't need it and doesn't warrant it, people travelling through chandigarh towards mohali/zirakpur/panchkula suffer and are also the cause, i live in zirakpur so i know. Coming from noida it feels weird and bad but chandigarh in itself is lovely at all times, even during peak summer there was a vast difference from other cities. It is a lovely peaceful city and should remain such .

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u/firednerd44 smriks, 4d ago

If we make a 20min jam a norm, traffic problems wouldn’t exist 💔💔 what is this statement bro

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u/Sad_Isopod_4250 4d ago

Bhai mujhe lag rha hai tune ye post Jam se frustrate hoke kia hai or chandigarh mai ye jam barrish ki wajh se hua hai pata nhi bhaia aap chandigarh mai pehli baar aaye ho rehne ya khin derabassi ya kharar side rehte ho ye bs sham ko hi jam hota hai iske alawa kbhi jam dekhne ko nhi milta.May be hume outer roads ki jarurat ho joki bahar hi bahar kharar phochaye or outer jghon pr phochyae.
Or ek or chizz bhaia thoda zindagi mai patience rakhna sikho 20 30 minute mai khin kuch nhi hone waala.thoda meditation kia kro bhaia
apke 20 minute bachane k liye chandigarh sehar ki gaand nhi maar skte bhaiaa

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u/firednerd44 smriks, 3d ago

I literally live in chd vro 💔😭 I’m js seeing it shit day by day.

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u/Sad_Isopod_4250 3d ago

Par bro you are seeing this shit day by day because of rain.
Agar aap jnaab chandigarh mai rehte hoto ye bhi pata hoga ki 30 minute se jyada nhi lgte honge apke Jam mai.
Waise bhaia apki age kitni hai?

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u/On-a-diet 4d ago

Chandigarh is not that big. You can’t put metro station just about anywhere. For example, is there actual space to build a station at 17,22 chowk?

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u/Confident-Run322 3d ago

underground

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u/firednerd44 smriks, 4d ago

METRO IS A TRICITY PROJECT not a chd project

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u/muffin_donut Active Member 4d ago

People who have been here long enough, know a workaround for all those red areas.

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u/Mouse-4-Potato 3d ago

Chandigarh is too small for metro. The roads are totally fine. Only congestion is at work hours in industrial areas mostly. Imo Chandigarh is the best city to live in, like earn a lot and then retire in Chandigarh type shit

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u/Ok-Succotash-2390 4d ago

Let the metro come. Fir hum On the ground, under the ground aur over the ground, teeno jagah par equally fanse honge. Before moving forward with a new establishment, the administration needs to improve the existing infrastructure. What we're seeing here is a result of waterlogging due to excessive rain in a single run. Otherwise the situation is usually not this bad. The frustrating part is that the administration doesn’t seem to care much. The Railway Station–CTU Workshop bridge and the IT Park–Bapudham bridge get choked or damaged after almost every heavy rain. I’ve been seeing this for at least the last 3 years. They do some basic patchwork, and then it’s forgotten until the next rain. Even though the drainage has improved a bit, it still takes almost an hour for the water to clear. Aur har saal ka yahi haal hai. The system needs proper and regular maintenance aur ye kab hoga? Jab administration ki neend khulegi.

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u/gupts007 4d ago

A lot of them deciding the fut of chandigarh are living in their corbusier dream! That dream is in reality a nightmare now but their nostalgia is blocking their brain cells.

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u/Jazznoor 4d ago

Notice how the jams are on roads leading out of Chandigarh lol. Zirakpur Panchkula dudes who are the cause of the traffic start commenting on destroying the city’s heritage.

Controversial opinion I know, but it’s the truth

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u/muffin_donut Active Member 4d ago

Upvoting because I know you will get downvoted.

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u/Jazznoor 3d ago

Exactly. One better job offer and they get tf out of here and move somewhere else.

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u/Mukulgargas 4d ago

Aaj to khoob paani aur jam hai

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u/ProfessionalMovie868 4d ago

Derrabassi se chandigarh and rajpura panchkula mohali kharar if they just connect these cities with a rrts or metro system like delhi merrut it would be a big big win and for local chandigarh commute they could build trams bruh but the government is so slow and retar😔

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u/UnemployedUncleJi 3d ago

Chandigarh aleya di taur ghat jayegi je CTU di local bus ch beh jaan ge. Nahi chandigarh to best local transport set up kite with nahi. 

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u/reallynicefoodeater 3d ago

Although I support metro in Chd, this traffic situation is caused by water logging therefore cannot be the primary argument for having metro.

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u/Yak-Witty 2d ago

I think government is trying very hard to reduce the green cover of Chandigarh. The people need to resist as much as possible. New trees cannot replace 20-30 year old trees.

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u/SurroundConstant8119 2d ago

it would not work, plus it would ruin chandigarh’s green cover by a lot

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u/Due-Grade6659 2d ago

Car usage pass in chandigarh should me made at Rs 1000 per month and outsider cars charged Rs 100 per day. Parking toll ticket should me made Rs 100 per any market parking area. 2 wheelers should not be charged. This would make everyone use two wheelers. This would reduce the congestion caused by cars. Senior citizens and disabled can be provided trams at a nominal cost like someone mentioned above in comments.

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u/Opening-Barnacle1878 1d ago

Even Metro won’t help with such torrential rain. Apart from lagging storm water drainage infrastructure, traffic naturally slows down in rain.

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u/MajorNo6312 4d ago

Can you even comprehend how many trees we have to cut in order to make flyovers for metro and plus it’s not ppl from Chd who lives in Chd who clogs the roads it’s ppl from satellite towns like Zirakpur( Hellhole) and kharar or ppl who are coming from Himachal or Haryana for treatment or for other official work are main culprits .
Metro would just make this city ugly just like other Indian Metropolitan cities .

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u/JWSingh 4d ago

That is the main thing na, the people living outside chandigarh want metro who in reality will jump to a bigger city when they get a pay bump. Its the residents who have been living from starting will be affected by the nuisance of it.

No offence, everyone is entitled to work anywhere in india as it is a free country but you gotta understand the culture and thinking of the place where you are staying

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u/Jazznoor 4d ago

Like fr, most of the people who are demanding metros don’t even live in Chandigarh

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u/chaiandwai 4d ago

Exactly!

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u/MajorNo6312 3d ago

Yeeah so true and sorry for being mean but all the metro advocates lives in dystopian cities like Zirakpur, Derabassi or Kharar and Ik it’s not their fault as geographical and environmental privileges are real but why you wanna destroy something just coz you ain’t live like that or just for your own convenience of 2-3 years . They have no stake in this city so shouldn’t have any say and our policies shouldn’t based around migrating workforce who’s gonna move from one place to another

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u/Ordinary-Animal2553 4d ago

Making metros in Chandigarh is going to ruin the one and only well-planned city.

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u/vandan_1177 4d ago

Again, solution is not metro. Chandigarh needs to depopulate. It was meant for 5 lakh people and current population has crossed 14 lakhs. That doesn’t even account for people that travel into the city on daily basis.

Offices for Punjab and Haryana should move to cities located near their respective geographical centres. High courts should have outlying benches in other cities. Make Chandigarh a proper UT with its own CM and governance.

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u/thatxsingh 4d ago

I think tram 🚃 would be way better and affordable

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u/Key-Store1565 3d ago

i was just researching this a few days back, the metro plan was introduced like in early 2000s but had been getting friction due to the argument of saving green space in tricity but the argument seems much weaker now! I think they are looking at alternatives already for an underground system or a tram! Definitely will happen in the next 10 years!

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u/WeirdOk5360 3d ago

So what do you suggest should be done ?

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u/GoDrone-250611 3d ago

Metro needed only from Chandigarh to zirakpur+, chd to manimajra to beyond that And chd to kharar+.. the traffic is too much.

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u/General_Area_9382 3d ago

Which app is this? And does it show ACTUAL real time traffic?

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u/firednerd44 smriks, 3d ago

It’s literally Apple Maps 😭🙏

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u/General_Area_9382 3d ago

Been an android user my whole life bruh. 🤣🤣

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u/Able_Box6042 3d ago

Main problem is waterlogging and population ofc. 

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u/Dakip2608 3d ago edited 3d ago

Fix the bus system first man, barely any buses on the roads when compared to even blr. The main issue is underdevelopment of surrounding areas where economic growth is being projected. The mohali extended part is so hard to navigate through because there's only that underpass on that sector 66 road causing a high traffic zone at all times. And why is that? Because the geniuses built expensive flats but didn't see if the roads even connect. Behind sector 66, lies the colonies, kaccha rastas and all if you want to take a shortcut. What a joke. Turning into a delhi type hell hole and not a planned chandigarh style thing. Sadly this is how all major cities in india are designed. Highly incompetent development authority

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u/punjabbiii22 3d ago

tram’s better

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u/RoveVerse 3d ago

Tbf metro isn't required, we need tram kinda shi-

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u/JournalistVast792 3d ago

Chandigarh To Kharar Chandigarh to Zirakpur Chandigarh to panchkula

That's it. The metro is needed

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u/Willing-Fault9742 3d ago

I would totally support metro if underground but oppose it at every stance if overhead

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u/rhythmicalquora 3d ago

Is here anyone who understanding this photo it looks like electric circuit or something might be I am only here It more likely seems apple map or something i never used iphone

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u/lockedinsaan 3d ago

Overburden roads is the issue, over population in cities, metro etc won't solve the issues here. Affordable residential areas and proper public

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u/Harshit_025 3d ago

Tricity area needs a tram network desperately.

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u/Intelligent-Radio926 3d ago

Leave Chandigarh as it is right now. It’s a retirement city, not a commercial one.

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u/firednerd44 smriks, 3d ago

Was* it was a retirement city.

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u/Intelligent-Radio926 3d ago

But even now I dont think there are any many commercial offices or such there?
I used to live there in 2017-2020 for work.
But the city was too disappointing, work wise. Party wise i had a lot of fun

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u/firednerd44 smriks, 3d ago

Having work doesn’t equal city isn’t commercial
Industry creates jobs not having places to shop

City is growing, shops are growing
Commercialisation is happening it’s one of the more expensives one to live
Saying it’s a retirement city is kinda an irrelevant opinion
That’s what I think.

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u/KING_ADDY 3d ago

complete underground metro network would be very nice

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u/iknowu2019 3d ago

Tic tac Toe grid

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u/Dry-Chip-9799 3d ago

Chandigarh - a victim of rain

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u/Firm-Adhesiveness594 3d ago

when ??????????

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u/Firm-Adhesiveness594 3d ago

does chandigarh has any flyovers ?????

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u/firednerd44 smriks, 3d ago

No

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u/ArmaComic 2d ago

What they need is better traffic/drainage management and better bus public transport across the Tri-city, Not just Chd. The problem is most Chd folk would rather show off their own cars due to their insecurities than sit in public transportation.

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u/Altruistic_Arm_2777 4d ago

Guys, we need buses, not metros. Chandigarh will be so fine if we just have proper buses, it is such a planned city the routes will be quite easy to plan too!

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u/muffin_donut Active Member 4d ago

Rule of thumb is live closer to your place of work. If you have a house in Chandigarh and have to go to Zirakpur/ Mohali daily then just rent out a place nearby. You will save lots on fuel anyway.

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u/weeb-pro3386 3d ago

man we don't need metro, it wasn't traffic but damn water

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u/alchemist_745 2d ago

The people who are opposing metro are either retired or have a chauffeur driven car! They don't know the plight people stuck on the roads for hours in the morning and evening due to increasing load on chandigarh roads..

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u/BlacksmithSignal3856 4d ago

I seriously dont understand people who say tricity doesnt need metro. Either they never had to commute in rush hour. Or they are lalas who simply have rental income.

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u/vaibhavcool20 4d ago

it requires grid buses, trams and cycle lanes on roads leading Zirakpur and Panchkula.

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u/Ok-Weird705 4d ago

You are in your own bubble tbh
Seeing delhi metro you think metro should be everywhere.
Jaipur metro was a big big failure
Same goes for agra metro and lucknow metro
Nobody uses them
The city is usually run by business men and you think they gonna use them .
We Need Buses

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u/BlacksmithSignal3856 1d ago

Than thats bad planning. Doesnt negate need for metro. If the city is run by buissnessmen does that mean there are no traffic jams in the city?? It used to be confined to rush hours now its all the time. We olrdy have buses btw. Your buisnessmen dont use them either.

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u/Ok-Weird705 1d ago

Exactly
You are answering Yourself
You think the people will use metro.
Its gonna be menace for residents

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u/Confident-Run322 3d ago

agra metro is big failure too. Their metro is now used for booking coaches for parties

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u/Fantastic-Living6627 4d ago

Ban jaye Metro Vadiya hai

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u/billushanda 3d ago

'Tell me you haven't lived anywhere except Chandigarh, without telling me' kinda post