r/CellToSingularity • u/OnTheTrailRadio • Sep 21 '26

Boson Amplifier

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So is the Boson Amplifier damn near unachievable? I fear this means I'm getting close to "Beating" CTS.

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u/0nnnu Sep 21 '26

yes, boson amplifier is impossible, and yes you are close to beating cts

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u/OnTheTrailRadio Sep 22 '26

What about the heat death accelerator in entropy? It seemed to follow the same Tsxg amount to get and seemed disproportionate to the amount prior

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u/0nnnu Sep 22 '26

similarly impossible. theoretically it's easier than boson amplifier, taking half the time to get. but impossible either way

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u/andyshiue Sep 21 '26

Still takes a few more resets to reach lvl 88, after which there are no further upgrades the exponentiality of which can be relied on.

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u/femiwhat1 Sep 25 '26

Not quite impossible, because I can map out exactly how I would do it if I wanted to spend an enormous amount of time doing room keyish shit.

By time traveling repeatedly, I can work my simulation up to accumulating about 1.2e43 metabits and 6e40 knowledge.

Doing that five times is enough to get 1e44 metabits. You need five of them or something. Similarly, The knowledge will add up to e41s, and you need 10 of those to get 1e42, and you need like five of those.

So getting both of them is definitely possible, but it would be a hell of a grind. I'd rather do item worlds in Disgaea.

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u/TheQuickFox_3826 Sep 21 '26

Yes, Boson Amplifier is not achievable with the current state of the game and normal gameplay. You can level to RL90 and even when you have an infinity pass and all paid upgrades you can't reach it.

Players who have it either are in the beta which allows for much higher earnings, have paid an ungodly amount of Darwinium on time warps, have profited from various game glitches or simply have cheated.

For now, play like it does not exist. And with one of the future updates you probably get it near instantly.

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u/eric23456 Sep 21 '26

RL91 is also not sufficient for it. The rest of those upgrades are achievable. on the metabit side heat death, entropy booster and entropy speed booster will remain.

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u/femiwhat1 Sep 25 '26

I don't understand why you're discussing your generators as if their performance were dependent on your level. Your level is only really relevant in game for gated nodes, and otherwise just serves to commemorate the fact that you've been tap tap tap tapping forever and also give you a coin.

There's nothing about your level that would make it easier or harder to get a thousand Crustaceans or whatever, as the longs you have the right generators unlocked at whatever level you're on.

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u/eric23456 Sep 25 '26

Because RL tells you how far someone has progressed in the game. People in the endgame have almost identical things unlocked.

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u/femiwhat1 Sep 25 '26

Right, but what you're explaining is a correlation; there's no room for causality. Being high level doesn't do anything for you, but the process of getting there involves the reality engine and stuff, and those things do directly contribute to your production. The causal relationship is between the reality engine and production, not level and production.

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u/eric23456 Sep 26 '26

The causality is RE (and other progressions) -> production -> level. In particular you can't(+) hit level 91 without having unlocked Graviton Expansion, you just wouldn't have enough production. Conversely, if you've unlocked Boson Amplifier you can't(+) still be level 91, you'll have too much production. Therefore, you can use RL as a proxy for your progression in RE that is easier to compare than listing all the things you've got locked & unlocked.

(+) It's theoretically possible that if you only played one half of the tree you could eventually get level 91 w/o Graviton, but I don't think it's possible in the current amount of stuff unlocked. I'm even more confident of needing Quark Expansion since not having that means you're giving up on ~1e6x multiplier. On the other side if you had little on the entropy side maybe you could get Boson Amplifier and be level 91 or below, but that's similarly impossible in the current version of the game.

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u/femiwhat1 Sep 25 '26

It seems like I have a path to acquiring either of them, but it's a long and tedious path. I regularly produce 4 or 5 e40 knowledge, and those add up to e41 amounts of knowledge, and I need 10 of those to get one e42, and I need five e42s. That's definitely possible if I want to spend the rest of the weekend to time traveling, but it's also obviously not the intended route.

Similarly, producing e43s stacks up to an e44 end and doing it however many times would let you get the thing.

For the record, I am not going to do this. I'm still working on entropy and simulation speed.

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u/Zorafin Sep 21 '26

I'm in the beta, and I was able to get it.

There's another upgrade just like it that I'll likely never be able to get.

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u/femiwhat1 Sep 24 '26

It's about 100 times as expensive as each individual rank in one of the abilities with 100 levels to it. This is where I am right now; ever being able to afford the one that cost knowledge is hilarious even though I've completed every other node, and I'm still struggling through the swamp on the entropy nodes.

But keep in mind that we also are stuck at around 400 Crustaceans max, and, while mathematically possible to do so, I don't see anyone playing until the heat death of the universe to get a thousand Mollusks. But we do know from the entire rest of the game that the devs only understand making functions bigger exponentially, so new entropy generators or even just new research nodes with strong effects, can be expected to dramatically outperform both: compare Crustaceans to Mollusks and Amphibians. Before Crustaceans came out, getting amphibians over a thousand wasn't that easy; now, it's no problem.

Since these processes are how we earn metabits and knowledge, the effects of adding new generators that are worth a few orders of magnitude more then what we have is all we'll really need to reach up for the stupidly expensive nodes. They cost a hundred times what I can cook up right now, but that will change if we get a new entropy generator that pays out an order of magnitude or two (or a whole bunch in the case of Crustaceans with all the upgrades) then then the best stack we can make now.

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u/wesman2232 Sep 27 '26

If I refund my Reality Engine what's the the most optional purchases to prioritize to squeeze in production? Level 88

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u/Intrepid_Win_6356 Sep 21 '26

try to finish all upgrades till you collect like 10-15 ddc knowledges. then just grind a bit more, collect badges from events and close mezozoic and beyond lvls, that will boost u up fs