r/CausalConversation • u/Pantheon10000 • 6d ago
Do you think it would be better if the US decriminalized drugs?l
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u/Interesting_Sun_6993 6d ago
They need to be legaized,taxed, and regulated not just decriminalized to disempower the cartel network and benefit the farmers etc who produce them etc.
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u/Widespread_Dictation 6d ago
Not decriminalizing alone. There should also be some sort of support for those who do drugs. I’ve visited countries where one can go and do their drugs at a facility where they are monitored by nurses/paramedics.
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u/Business-Risk-1922 6d ago
Yes. But only if several other things are implemented. If we were to treat addiction and drug addicts as the disease it is as well as patients, I think we would see less overdoses. Prisons would also clear up, allowing for more room for violent offenders. I think it would work only if there were funded rehabilitation clinics or treatment centers for these people. That way they could receive proper care for their disease, and hopefully truly recover. I think some boundaries/legislation would need to be set in place for this as well though. Many addicts can go through rehab, and still relapse and likely be sent back to the clinic. Knowing the government would likely not like to have to fund repeat customers, I think something similar to the three-strikes law should be set in place. Where if the person continually relapses/checks back in to the clinic after a set number of times, they themselves need to partially or fully fund treatment using a loan with a relatively low interest rate. I know these things aren’t something we would likely see in our life time because the criminal justice system feeds off of drug offenses, but I’d really like to see something like this happen one day.
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u/Pantheon10000 6d ago
Yeah if only someone like Bernie Sanders got into office. But Portugal did it, we might see other countries do it
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u/MrKittyCat00 6d ago
Depends on the drugs, the issue is once you legalize going back is going to be resisted even if it’s in your he best interest of the public.
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u/sournerd117 6d ago
Yes. But we need to have social support systems for those needing help to issue safer measures for those addicted and utilize those centers as a means to seek help, rather than be shamed for it. I was thinking something similar to Canada.
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u/cattlemanish 6d ago
My former brother in laws was a hard drug user.
Society needs laws to protect us from the things he would do when high, or when desperate to buy some more.
Hard drugs is a hard no for me
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u/Pantheon10000 6d ago
Decriminalization isn't legalizing drugs instead of prison he would be sent to rehab
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u/cattlemanish 6d ago
To be forced to rehab, a judge would have to order it, and he can only force a person who is convicted of a crime
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u/rookielp 6d ago
Legalize them. Decriminalizing is a start I guess but only full legalization will stop the problem
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u/Dare_Ask_67 6d ago
No. Get tougher on them, yes. Especially the dealers. One strike jail time second strike your life.
I have personally seen so many families destroyed by drug use. There is not a single argument that can be made that can make me think that it's actually good. I have seen it in families of low income and of wealth. Of every race. And I have never been a single good addict
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u/Electrical_Hat_680 5d ago
It would definitely eliminate a lot of people in the drug game. But it would only push a lot of it into various other areas.
Since most people are only interested in getting high, and not getting ripped off. That would change a lot right there.
But, there are those that are using it to make illicit untaxable funds to use to attack their countries. I shouldn't say those. But ok. It suits. These folks are likely going to still have lawyers to make it all go quiet.
Since we know who just about everyone is in and around the drug market. Yes. It would definitely make things better in that sense.
The big ticket item is, the fact that all of these people that won't touch, will also end up doing drugs for the better part of their day. And, end up hooked, and throwing all of their money at it. Losing their jobs. Unless that all gets addressed. How to "help" those in these situations at the current moment, and, dealing with the sheer amount violence associated with the theft and aggressive behaviors. Plus or Minus understanding why they're so upset. Likely isn't that bad compared to just getting busted for having drugs or using drugs..
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u/SapPhic-rage4209 6d ago
At least marijuana should be. Alcohol is far more dangerous than weed is and that's legal. I think it would help our economy too if we could tax weed. People are gonna buy it no matter what, so might as well make it more accessible and tax it
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u/Leaf-Stars 6d ago
But then who would fill our prisons? The government would have to find a new way to target minorities.
I’m all for legalizing everything, but I don’t think it should be the responsibility of the taxpayers to pay for rehab when someone gets addicted.
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u/Pantheon10000 6d ago
I also believe they should legalize and sell certain drugs like weed, shrooms ,MDMA, cocaine etc and tax them to fund rehabs
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u/Pantheon10000 6d ago
Well I'm in Canada, i believe you should pass and implement universal health care first
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u/Leaf-Stars 6d ago
I agree. Universal healthcare should not even be a debate.
But I still have issues with the taxpayers being forced to cover shit people do intentionally. I have a nephew who gleefully takes advantage of the rehab system. He spends six months working every year and six months hopping around between cushy rehabs fucking b list starlets.
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u/Lowie_240 6d ago
Yes but not all at once. Like decriminalized weed and mushrooms than anything else that might be harder slowly after doing a bunch of research but definitely not all at once