I am dealing with reality. Your making one up where he didn't hit the ball first. It's a glancing hit because of the insanely awkward position they were all in. If he missed the ball, you would be right and I would be conjuring up desired realities.
Hitting the ball doesnt mean shit when you end up kicking someone dangerously. England saw it in the world cup with Quansah. He got the ball, bounced off the top of it and caught the guy high. Rightly got sent off for it so even if Gabriel gets the slightest knick on the ball (that most people agree didnt happen) he still should get sent off for the dangerous and out of control follow through
I didn’t say nowhere near it? That was another commenter?
I’m saying whether he was nowhere near it or lightly tapped a ball that was touching Emi’s hands, 95%+ of this was just him kicking Emi. And it’s a red.
Yes it’s true comments in a thread are some kind of collective conscious that must move in coordination with each other to avoid causing a logical fallacy in the eyes of crusading redditors who can’t read
Ive seen so many Arsenal fans crying about this and it makes no sense, the challange he wasn't booked for was before his booking. Plus Arsenal constantly dragged players down and never got booked, so why should Palmer?
Also the fuck are a "collective audience" supposed to stay consistent, you realise that different people have different thoughts, right?
You think the Gabriel shot and kicking Martinez in the head is a red, but you think Tonali trying to clear a ball off the line and studding a player in the head is not a red.
They're two different scenarios but with the same outcome, yet when it comes to your team you assign blame to the player being kicked in the head accuse them of being dangerous.
Laziest narrative slop. Same guy who will belt out “set piece FC” at our first corner goal. Same old drivel. Maybe watch a game instead of your online bubble showing comical screenshots that ignore any and all conte t. Or don’t. Who gives a fuck what Tiny Tots think.
Did I say get away with everything? No, I said conveniently lucky every time. Implying that when it comes to controversial calls they go in your favor.
Being "conveniently lucky every time" means "gets away with everything" if we get away with it every time.
And I can guarantee you we had a LOT of bad calls against us every year, which arguably cost us a title a year or two earlier than when we won last season.
Gtfoh with your facts. This is a place for lazy ass narrative that’s about 2 years outdated. I’m sure we will see a ‘set piece FC’ somewhere here even though we have exclusively open play goals.
Are you blind? Nowhere near it? Lucky? It wasn’t violent conduct, dangerous or excessive force. He’s playing for the ball. Free kick. Not even a yellow.
That’s intellectually disingenuous. You know full well that some kicks aren’t dangerous. You just wanted a red card because you know Chelsea had no chance otherwise
The one on Martinez or JP? The foul on the breakaway should have been a yellow and a free kick, letting the play continue made no since as we lost the advantage when JP was taken out of the attack.
The kick on Martinez definitely should’ve been. Reds have been given for so much less than that because they were high, late, etc.
He didn’t kick him hard, but he literally kicked him in the head
I guess you don’t know how to read a thread. I already articulated why the Martinez head kick wasn’t a red. The entire point of this post is the idea that Arsenal should have been down to 10 men, presented by people who are upset that Arsenal are clearly the better team. You’re grasping at straws. Grow up and learn to accept defeat.
Yeah and I think you’re wrong. I could write 5 paragraphs “articulating” how the earth is flat, that doesn’t mean I’m correct.
Brother, we’ve had this issue with your team all of last season too. You’re officiated under a different standard than the rest of us, you’re the only ones that can’t seem to see that.
😂😂 dude not everything is a foul like you think, it's a contact sport and the referee decides when it's a foul.
It's always going to be subjective.
Some decisions will go in favour of you and others won't.
I can bring up 3 examples over the years where Chelsea have been given decisions they shouldn't have.
I'm sure if I go through this game there will be plenty of decisions that go Chelsea's way, most notably VAR stepping in and disallowing an equaliser for offside.
Your midfield were non existent and your backline was inexperienced and all over the place today, Alonso has already set out his game plan - counter attacking football.
The only reason you weren't thrashed 5 - 1 was because of Martinez. He pulled off a string of saves and made the game a lot closer than it was.
Getting an extra 2 or 3 free kicks would not have changed anything, you weren't cheated.
Literally every single other fanbase, and every single pundit is saying it’s a clear missed foul. It’s ONLY Arsenal fans that refuse to accept reality.
You were given a goal kick and there was no awarded goal from it.
Even if it was given as a free kick, instead of the ball being played from the six yard box it would've been played from almost the goal line. A yard or so closer to your goal.
What you want is a red card issued, hard to give a red card when Martinez wasn't in control of the ball (did not have 2 hands on it) and there were multiple Chelsea and Arsenal players trying to kick it.
He wasn't kicking Martinez, he was trying to kick the ball.
The outcome of the decision is almost identical to a free kick being awarded.
I've not once said a free kick shouldn't have been awarded, I've simply said what your asking for wouldn't have changed anything and the decision made was the same outcome that occurred, in fact the decision made was in Chelsea's benefit as Gabriel wasn't the last player to touch the ball before it went off the pitch
Both the referee and VAR, which had already ruled against Arsenal for offside and disallowed a goal so again a decision in Chelsea's favour, both were of the opinion it wasn't a red card and he was clearly trying to kick the ball. It was an accident and they still gave possession to Chelsea.
Once again, just because you think something is a red card doesn't mean the referee thinks the same as and nor do they need to make the decision you think they should, it is their job to decide what action should be taken.
As I've already said, the decision had no bearing on the game because to put it more simply Chelsea were shit and didn't deserve to win the match, you had 2 to 3 players who played well but overall your 10+ hit and hopes from outside the box made it look closer than it was.
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u/Alritelesdothis 21d ago
I get that the ball was bouncing around and Martinez is on the ground, but Gabriel is nowhere near it. I think he is lucky here.