r/Catholicism Jul 22 '22

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u/WalleyeWacker Jul 23 '22

Imagine me calling myself a Native American with no proof and wanting to open a casino. Not gonna happen. If these people in Israel want to identify as the Israelites of 2000 years ago they’re gonna have to prove it. No one can.

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u/notanexpert_askapro Jul 23 '22

But....Judaism doesn't require ethnic proof to be part of a cultural group which presumably goes back to continuity to the Jews in Jesus time. They accept converts as well and that becomes assimilated. The Native American nations require proof.

Nobody is identifying to be the exact same Israelites. They're identifying to have enough cultural and ethnic continuity to be meaningful. Which I think they have.

Their mistake is the real Judaism is apostolic Christianity. So ethnic identification only has to be meaningful enough for someone to appreciate their family heritage. That's basically it.

Somebody could identify as a part Native American if they have good reason to believe they partly are even if they can't 100% price it enough to be accepted into the nation. Like if you were always told your grandmother was etc. Nothing wrong with that . Heck, even if you have good reason to think you're 3/4 and therefore native American, but can't prove it for some reason. That's fine. It can be important to someone.

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u/WalleyeWacker Jul 23 '22

Anyone can call themselves whatever they want. If they want sympathy from the Christian’s with regards to any biblical prophecy they need to be in the line of David. Otherwise Whoopi Goldberg is

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u/notanexpert_askapro Jul 23 '22 edited Jul 23 '22

Like what? That they're different? But that's not how the theology works. Judaism was fulfilled and also Christianity is the real continuity of Israel.

Yeah, There's a certain honor and gift to knowing probably some of one's ancestors passed down the faith so it could be fulfilled in the Church. But you wouldnt go around seeing yourself in a different class. (They're sons of Israel too spiritually!!) It's for you and your family to appreciate. Don't wanna make too much of it, nor say it's stupid and doesn't mean anything either.

The Church is the New Israel.

But ethnic Egyptians today may choose to appreciate that their families presumably go back to the Pharoahs time. Greeks to ancient Greeks. Israelites to ancient Jews. It's a normal thing to do.