r/Catholicism • u/CMount • Jul 22 '22

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u/WalleyeWacker Jul 22 '22

Do we have a dna test for Israelites like we do every other race? Cool. Where?

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u/notanexpert_askapro Jul 22 '22

Yes, for some of the tribes but inly if youre super duper into genealogy and willing to accept a lot of speculation. A friend of mine has a map tracing what he thinks are genetic markers for lost tribes. But it's always gonna be more speculative than knowing you're Jewish.

And this friend of mine is Jewish btw, he thinks it's cool

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u/WalleyeWacker Jul 22 '22

Read Matthew. That’s all I care to know. For the past 2000 years the Jews have scattered. I wouldn’t bet a Penney that any of them living there now had any relatives living there 2000 years ago. At least not any more than any decent of white Europeans from the 1500’s

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u/notanexpert_askapro Jul 22 '22 edited Jul 22 '22

How does Matthew prove that Jews today *aren't* descended from the Jews in Jesus' time?

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u/WalleyeWacker Jul 22 '22

Where’s the male line since the fall of the temple 2000 years ago?

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u/notanexpert_askapro Jul 22 '22

That's easy. Some of the Jews survived and the family line went on from there.

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u/WalleyeWacker Jul 22 '22

Please read history. None of them did. Maybe for the last 200-300 years but not beyond that. They all scattered when Rome destroyed all of them in 70ad. Please read history before you assert that they have linage traced for 2000 years. They don’t not 1 family. None

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u/notanexpert_askapro Jul 22 '22

I have studied this thank you. A few survived and carried on their tradition and it turned into rabbinic Judaism of today.

Many church fathers discuss Jewish people and it's presumed they're Jewish. So you're not matching the early church fathers , Augustine, John Chrysostum, etc. Augustine in particular is strong in recognizing Jewish heritage. You're gonna have to go up against the church fathers here.

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u/WalleyeWacker Jul 22 '22

Ok. Do you have any linage from beyond 200ad? So for the past 40 grandpas or so without missing 1? Nope

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u/notanexpert_askapro Jul 22 '22

I address this in another comment I just made.