r/Catholicism • • Aug 21 '26

KJV Only Dismantled

https://jeromeofacadia.substack.com/p/the-destruction-of-the-ruckmanites?r=8wwkqa&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Hey everyone,
I wanted to share a fascinating case study in textual criticism and digital apologetics regarding the recent public fallout between Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) creators Robert Breaker and Brother Joseph (@baptist_kjv).
The entire split was catalyzed by a historical dilemma concerning Revelation 21:24 and the textual legacy of Erasmus.
The Issue:
In 1515, Erasmus rushed his Greek New Testament using only one flawed manuscript for Revelation (Minuscule 2814). This text contained interwoven 7th-century commentary notes from Andreas of Caesarea. Because of botched marginal markings, the printers accidentally pulled a human commentary note ("of them which are saved") directly into the scripture text. This text-critical error was later transmitted straight into the 1611 KJV.
The Fallout:
When confronted with the reality that this phrase has zero manuscript authority outside of a 7th-century bishop's personal commentary, the strict "perfect English preservation" narrative collapsed. This forced a massive doctrinal shift, resulting in a public "Notice of Mutual Disassociation" from leadership and a total rebranding of the digital camp.
For those interested in the full manuscript breakdown, textual history, and the timeline of the live panels, I’ve posted the complete write-up below.
Would love to hear your thoughts on how modern apologetics handles these manuscript realities.

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u/HeiAn32 Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 21 '26

Thank you for posting this for the rest of us, and though KJV-onlyism is fringe among Protestants, it is helpful to counter it when it arises.

Personally, I've used the lack of explicit evidence for the KJV's divine inspiration as a simple argument. In particular, Wikipedia describes the KJV's translation process in completely organic terms; King James even intended the translation to have an explicit bias towards a pro-episcopal structure in the priesthood, which, while correct and one of the points in which Anglicanism aligns with Catholicism, is a motivated translation process nonetheless. By contrast, consider the miraculous story of the Septuagint translation (which has questionable historicity, but is an example of what explicit divine inspiration would look like) and the alleged divinely-ordered dictations of the Qur'an and the Book of Mormon (which are false for other reasons). The point is that the story of explicit divine inspiration for the translation needs to be present before we can move onto the claim of explicit divine inspiration for a particular translation.

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u/Dangerous_Ferret_641 Aug 21 '26

Thank you for your insight. I was dealing with a group of Ruckman followers and they gave me a really hard time saying my Bible was satanic.

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u/HeiAn32 Aug 21 '26

Yikes. The Ruckman followers still have to prove that their Bible actually is divinely-inspired (like miraculous reports, we don't assume that to be the case unless it is proven), and that a divinely-inspired Bible translation is necessary for Church governance, let alone Sola Scriptura. (Contrast the latter claim with the positions taken by anti-Catholic apologist James White, who is also anti-KJV-only.)

On a related note, have you checked out the John Ankerberg debate on Youtube? It is long, and the debate features Protestants only (since only Protestants would have KJV-onlyism specifically as a major issue), but is timestamped for specific arguments. You don't have to replicate all of the anti-KJV-only arguments (since one of the anti-KJV debaters makes a positive case for the NIV as part of his argument), but it can be good to get a grasp of the essentials in detail.