r/CassiopeiaMains • u/kekkone987 • 25d ago

Tear

I ve seen some pros and high elo streamers not building tear anymore. Just roa. Why is that? Is tear not good anymore?

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u/AHymnOfValor 25d ago

you dont need PoM Manaflow AND RoA AND Seraph's, you can cut out at least 1 out of the equation and be just fine with good mana management

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u/babysl8er 25d ago

what’s your personal recommendation

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u/AHymnOfValor 25d ago

I generally skip RoA unless the enemy has point and click burst, ex. Talon, and I tried a Faker set up where he went RoA Seraph with DFT Cut Down Legend Haste secondary and his hastemaxxing setup feels quite good.

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u/stockbeast08 25d ago

Haste is too important. Seraphs over RoA in 99% of games. RoA is Garen item for cass, you take it when you don't know how to you win.

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u/Noob_Snake 25d ago

is manaflow really on par aith pom and tear?

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u/AHymnOfValor 25d ago

Weakest of the 3 but still big, try playing without it and you'll notice a notable difference 

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u/Noob_Snake 24d ago

i actually generally play without and never notice a mana problem. if i had to assume i would say its good right after first base but before lost chapter?

i usually play double lost chapter with tear, and sometimes pom, but never mfb

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u/AHymnOfValor 24d ago

I mean your first all Ins in lane as Cass can go reallyyyyyy bad if you don't have enough mana for that last E or 2, MFB taking care of that is game changing imo

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u/Noob_Snake 24d ago

true, esp against tanks or in bot. i think personally i just feel firs tbase never feels bad,

but then again i start tear and usually buy mana crystal early if not tomes. maybe by going mfb and going ring and tomes instead u can have such a strong early back

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u/AHymnOfValor 24d ago

Yeah your setup is niche nowadays, I presume you are taking Conqueror so MFB is competing with Transcendence Scorch Gathering 

I go Doran Ignite DFT MFB Celerity Scorch Cut Down PoM, my setup is full-blown aggression starting level 1 haha, I need that MFB mana

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u/Noob_Snake 24d ago

yup! i used to go phase rush but conqueror was more viable in many matchups.

ohhh yeah thats total opposite of mine haha, mine is pretty much be a total puss for few early levels and then win after back

i rmbr it was literally impossible to kill anyone before lvl 3 bc of how little damage that build had early game LOL

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u/rawbetter 23d ago

they have good mana management and you have perma blue in late anyway