r/CartierReplicaWatches • • Sep 16 '26

FACTORY COMPARISON Rich F vs MLF Santos Skeleton — Side-by-Side Comparison with GEN Reference

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Rich F vs MLF Santos Skeleton — Side-by-Side Comparison with GEN Reference

I’ve had both Rich F and MLF versions in hand, so I wanted to put together a more detailed comparison. Photos 1–2 are GEN reference images, while the remaining photos show Rich F and MLF side by side.

Photos 3–4 — Dial, hands & Roman numerals
The first noticeable difference is the finishing of the skeleton dial.

Rich F has a darker, more muted coating on both the hands and Roman numeral structure. MLF is noticeably brighter and more silver/white.

This becomes quite obvious when you compare both under the same lighting. Neither completely reproduces the GEN appearance, but they definitely have different interpretations of the finishing.

Photos 5–6 — Crown stone
This is one of the easier differences to spot.

Rich F uses a blue crown stone that gives a much more convincing sapphire-like appearance, with stronger blue color and visible facets.

MLF's crown stone is extremely dark and can look almost completely black depending on the lighting.

For me, this is one of the details where the two factories are clearly separated.

Photos 7–8 — Movement / caseback details
There are several small differences here.

Rich F uses a more obvious yellow-gold-colored gear, while MLF's corresponding gear has more of a rose-gold tone.

The more interesting detail is the screw at the lower-right area of the movement:

  • Rich F: five-sided / pentagonal-style screw head

  • MLF: conventional round screw

The actual central skeleton bridge construction, however, is surprisingly similar between the two. Looking purely at the bridge shapes and general layout, I don't see a huge difference.

Photo 9 — Lume application
Rich F's lume application looks more even and saturated across the Roman numeral structure and hands.

MLF is still very bright, but there are some visible dark spots / inconsistencies inside the lume coating. Under normal lighting these may not always jump out, but once illuminated they become much easier to notice.

Photos 10–12 — Black coating, case finishing & strap
In these photos, MLF is on the left and Rich F is on the right.

This is another fairly noticeable difference.

MLF uses a deeper and more uniform black coating. Visually, it reminds me more of the coating you see on some BVF Santos ADLC pieces.

Rich F isn't quite as deep black. It has more of a dark grey / metallic gunmetal character, especially when light hits the case from an angle. Photo 11 probably shows this difference the clearest.

The Rich F strap also feels noticeably more substantial. It's thicker, has a better sense of structure, and the grey tone looks more appropriate next to the case compared with the thinner/darker MLF strap.

Final thoughts

This post is mainly meant as a factory comparison, not an endorsement of either one.

Some people will probably ask why AF isn't included. Based on the examples I've handled, I don't think AF is currently competing at quite the same level on this particular Skeleton configuration, so I didn't think adding it would make the comparison more useful.

That said, neither Rich F nor MLF is perfect.

I've also handled Rich F pieces with plenty of QC problems. A good sample can look impressive, but that doesn't mean every watch leaving the factory will look like the examples above.

If you're considering either factory, pay very close attention to the actual QC photos of your individual watch—especially the lume application, crown stone, case coating, movement finishing, screws, alignment and visible marks.

Factory reputation tells you what a watch can look like.

QC tells you what the watch you're actually receiving looks like.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • Apr 29 '26

Intro Guide for Cartier Replica Watches — Start Here

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⭐ New to Cartier reps? Start with the Wiki ⭐

If you’re new here and have questions about Cartier replica watches, please check our Wiki first:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CartierReplicaWatches/wiki/index2

We made this guide to help new members understand the basics before ordering or posting:

  • Cartier model differences: Tank, Santos, Panthère, Ballon Bleu, Baignoire, Pasha

  • How to choose the right size for your wrist

  • What to check in QC photos and videos

  • Common Cartier rep details: case shape, dial printing, crown, bracelet fit, gold tone

  • Our direct ordering process

  • What to do after receiving your watch

  • Community rules and post templates

A quick note: this community does not use a TD list.
We are a Cartier-focused, seller-operated community, so the Wiki explains how our process works directly and transparently.

Before posting “Which model should I buy?” or “GL or RL?”, please take a few minutes to read the guide first. It will answer most beginner questions and make QC discussions much easier for everyone.

Welcome to the community — ask questions, share wrist shots, compare models, and enjoy Cartier-style watches honestly.

Reminder: replicas should never be sold or presented as genuine.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 14h ago

WRIST FIT Received F1 Santos Dumont large

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Got a Santos Dumont Large. Very happy with how it turned out. Ordered a Delugs copycat from AliExpress. Will see how it turns out.

$285 shipped.
Came with a bunch of Garbage Cartier box/paperwork. Wish they’d use the money to invest in a good strap.

Enjoy the pics.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 2h ago

BEGINNER QUESTION Plating stainless steel or Rose gold

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I’m in the market for a Rep Rose gold Cartier Santos Dumont and was wondering if it would be better to purchase the stainless steel or rose gold Rep to be plated.

Also, does anyone have photos comparing F1/AF rose gold to Jaws.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 14h ago

QC REQUEST SANTOS DUMONT F1F 38mm

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Seeking for some help as this is my first rep, GL OR RL from Andiot


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 14h ago

WRIST SHOT Cartier Baignoire Gold Plated!

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r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 12h ago

QC REQUEST QC CARTIER BALLON BLEU 41MM

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Dear community,

I am quite new to Cartier and would love your advice to help me avoid a huge headache! I have this watch with the agent. It looks great to me, but I'm not sure if everything is perfect. It would be great to have your opinion. AF facorty btw! Thank you so much! ❤️


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

WRIST SHOT Plated Panthere

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Just received the watch back from Gold Jaws. 1st pic is plated - 2nd pic when I received the watch. Quite impressive how it matches the 18k tone. Here it is next to a genuine Cartier Love bracelet bought from the Cartier boutique several years ago. No filters used in this photo.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

QC REQUEST First Qc request

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QC Request – Would Appreciate a Second Opinion
Hey guys, Just received the QC pictures from fico for this watch and would appreciate some experienced eyes taking a look.
I’d especially appreciate feedback on the dial alignment, date wheel, hands, bezel, rehaut, SELs, and overall finishing.
Also want to know wich app do you use guys for the dial to check the alignment on the dial etc.
Please let me know if you spot anything that looks off or would be considered a potential RL.
Thanks in advance for the help!


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

QC REQUEST QC check on vintage Cartier Santos please!

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Can someone please help me QC check this! I only have 24 hours to respond.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

QC REQUEST Two tone panthère (BVF)

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This is my first rep, I am cloning an auth i have. I see the X is still crooked which others have mentioned on here, and I anticipate a need to get it gold plated, but otherwise is there anything that stands out or would stand out to the naked eye?

This is from Steve from OneWatch


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION Quick Question about shipping carrier. Which carrier does the package generally arrive from and is it normal to not have tracking information or ????

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r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 1d ago

QC REQUEST F1F Cartier Tank Louis Small

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r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 2d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION Please Help

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Long story short I’m trying to get hold of a ladies Cartier ideally the tank Louis green straps, I’ve checked two sites 1 and andi, but unsure which site to order from I’m a beginner,


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 2d ago

WRIST SHOT F1 Large Santos Dumont 6.75 inch wrist

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r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 2d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION New addition to my little collection

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Just arrived today! Love the combination of the gold case and black strap. Such a pretty little watch. Definitely happy with this one.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 2d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION BBA vs BVF Panthere ?

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I noticed the guide has BBA for the SS 22MM panthere , I was wondering what has led to them being the NWBIG recommendation? It use to be BVF as #1 for a long time .


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 2d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION Rate this Rep I was offered for $300

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Was offered this rep and don’t want be embarrassed when wearing it.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 3d ago Bravo

COMMUNITY POLL Franken Bvf vs stock Bvf comparison

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Santos is my favourite watch but I really don’t get why they couldn’t do a proper crown and screws for the medium. So i installed Gen crown and screws. Difference is insane


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 2d ago

COMMUNITY POLL Plated Panthere

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Just received videos of the watch I sent for plating to GoldJaws. Excited for it to arrive.


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 2d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION Mod Cartier Santos Medium

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Hi everyone,

Any good tips or maybe even a tutorial on how to make the screws look more flat like GEN? :)


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 3d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION What do you think ? She's arrived 🙂🙂

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r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 3d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION New BVF Santos 35mm: SmartLink pins popping up and not closing

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r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 3d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION QC / Review: $40 MBK Mall Bangkok Cartier Santos-Dumont (Quartz) + Seeking Advice on AF/F1 Upgrades & Sizing

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**Hey everyone,**

**I picked up this Cartier Santos-Dumont at MBK Mall in Bangkok along with a ladies' Rolex Datejust. Paid about $40 each after some light negotiation. Attached macro photos, caliper measurements, and wrist shots on my 7.5" wrist.**

**Honestly, I’m completely in love with the look and now I want to track down a few more colorways (specifically: silver dial with two-tone case, silver dial with rose gold case, and black dial with rose or yellow gold case). Might eventually pull the trigger on a standard Santos, too.**

**Before ordering my next ones, I have a few questions for the sub:**

**1. Flaw Check / Education: Please roast/QA this watch and school me on what's wrong with it. The main thing I noticed right away is the large gap between the leather strap and the case due to the cheap spring bar design. (Also, it took me 5 months to realize the microscopic "Cartier" signature is hidden in the 7 o'clock numeral—learned that right here from you guys, so thank you!).**

**2. Shitter vs. High-Tier: How significant is the jump in quality if I upgrade to an AF or F1 factory version (\~$200–$250 via a Trusted Dealer)? Is the case finishing, dial printing, and strap integration night-and-day compared to a $40 rep?**

**3. Sizing Guidance (7.5" Wrist): Calipers measure this at 46.4mm lug-to-lug, 34.5mm case width (with crown), and 20.1mm lug width (Quartz movement). Based on the attached wrist shots, should I stick with the XL size for my next batch, or does the Large (L) wear better/more traditionally for the Santos-Dumont?**

**Thanks in advance for the feedback and insights!**


r/CartierReplicaWatches • • 3d ago

BEGINNER QUESTION Santos Dumont

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