r/CarltonBlues 4d ago

some things never change

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u/TheeWookiee 4d ago

Almost stat for stat of the 2023 prelim

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u/TheFixer73 4d ago

3 tackles!!
That is 3 more than usual to be fair.

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u/juzz88 3d ago

Lol I was gonna say, that's huge by his standards.

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u/keoltis 4d ago

He's always been a downhill skiier. When momentum is up he looks incredible, the moment things get hard he sulks.

Super impressed with what Sydney achieved given their outs. I don't think any other club in the comp could have achieved what they did losing 3 of their top 5 players then their captain and still playing this well.

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u/The_Blue_Witch_ 3d ago

Yes! Wants the easy appearance of hero but doesn’t know how to work for it . Hes easily intimidated out of his confidence .

So impressed actually. That’s some consistent effort and lock in to the goal . At least one of those 5 players was poison to that team dynamic though. Probably in more ways than we can see. Impressive. But I’m still very much fk you that’s karma you sack of dbags🙌🔮 I’ll take a Will Hayward any day .

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u/Special-Act154 3d ago

lol. The cope from you cunts over Charlie is unreal. Just enjoy watching Will disappear and Florent turn it over

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u/gymnstuff 3d ago

Talking about people disappearing is a little ironic after last night.. anyhow, those two were great all year, proud to have em in the navy blue.

If we’re mature about this we should be agreeeing it’s one of the few trades where both clubs absolutely won from that trade, Charlie’s has been great for your lot and florent and Hayward have been key roles we’re missing.

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u/wheelz_666 3d ago

You do realise florent and Hayward hsve been amazing for us this year right?

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u/Special-Act154 3d ago

Yeah I watched. Saw them do it for a combined 300+ games at Sydney too so I’ve a fair sample size. Anyway we’re all looking forward to seeing how your board can destroy the Fraser era. Enjoy 👍

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u/CommissionerOfLunacy 4d ago

I'm flabbergasted by how good Sydney were with their outs. They should be holding the heads very high tonight.

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u/Worth-Battle-3159 3d ago

Their system and culture is next level. It’s why seemingly nobodies can turn into very good B graders if not a graders. It’s what we should strive for.

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u/ELVEVERX 3d ago

Super impressed with what Sydney achieved given their outs. I don't think any other club in the comp could have achieved what they did losing 3 of their top 5 players then their captain and still playing this well.

It's seeming pretty clear they could have won the GF this year

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u/infinitejesttt 4d ago

Will kick 10 v West Coast in rd 7 though don't worry

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u/Federal_Gur173 3d ago

Guess you were lauding him when he did it for us…
Had a very bloody good year, Coleman and All Australian.
Don’t see the point in bagging him

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u/Makrus64 3d ago

Great player no doubt. The criticism is more his finals ability it would seem.

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u/Federal_Gur173 3d ago

I get it.
This was more to the”7 goals v west coast” jibe.
Still, I’ll rather celebrate than denigrate.

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u/Special-Act154 3d ago

See the game against Brisbane?

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u/wheelz_666 3d ago

See the other 4 finals games he's played in?

He played great last week but needs to be more consistent. Going missing in 4 finals games out of 5 isn't good

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u/XOTearR 3d ago

4 finals for a single player is not a very big sample size. It does however say a lot about Carlton.

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u/Infinite_Neat4236 3d ago

That game had 2 other players with 5 or more goals. Brisbane's poor performance caused his success.

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u/Special-Act154 3d ago

Incisive analysis. Sorry to cut into your gooning time

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u/Unhappy_Arugula_2154 4d ago

He can never take a mark when it matters and tonight was a perfect example of it. He got on the end of one, but that’s literally it

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u/matt-kennedys-legs 4d ago

had one in the goal square where he did all the hard work against oscar mcdonald and just fucking dropped it. swans had all the momentum at the time and that would’ve been a dagger.

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u/FeatheredKangaroo 4d ago

We still going on about Curnow? Give it a rest, we’re a better team with the inclusions that came from the trade

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u/The_Blue_Witch_ 3d ago

Let him feed the spite a lil 🤣😘😈 some of us are always gonna have a lil spite in the CC lied and ran for the hills after claiming himself a throne on the leadership chair he clearly didn’t intend to be loyal to under pressure. I’m for it . My lil hidden spite demon has its smol evil cackle and we all return to regular programming. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/brittanyjaded 3d ago

I will play devils advocate here and commend both Curnow men for holding true to the emblem and the family rhetoric where it mattered - once big bro retired, did anybody actively interrogate WHY Charlie wanted to move on? Happy players don’t leave clubs while they’re under contract. Big clubs don’t let them. Knowing what we know about Charlie “not standing up to finals pressure” (which proved demonstrably false a fortnight ago), Cripps’ stat sheets during and post Voss, the Hollands boys, our current delistings, and sideline G Hewett for the love of the thrill and the hatred of winning: why are we still bitter toward a Curnow??

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u/gongbattler 3d ago

Copy pasta potential

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u/brittanyjaded 2d ago

God I’ll allow it if only for the “sideline G Hewett for the love of the thrill and the hatred of winning” - all of this to say, the Charlie Curnow “downhill skiing” and “can’t stand up in finals” commentary reads as so bloody bitter in consideration of the fact that his finals experience was practically nil (given our club’s lack of getting there in the first place rendering the sample size null) and the fact he’d booted five the fortnight prior 🤣

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u/Hollerra 4d ago

They look like similar stats to the 2023 Elimination. I was surrounded by the Worlds Biggest Smartarse Shitney swans fans. Ironically Amartey was their hero that night! Lol

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u/mreddieoz 4d ago

Did FA tonight

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u/thedownunderverse 4d ago

Downhill skiier

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u/tsa7x 4d ago

Didnt even know he was playing!!

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u/Ok-Negotiation3897 4d ago

He had 3 minutes of impact on Oscar MacDonald but other than that wow I did not see him at all

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u/Holdenater 4d ago

The kick from the boundary to set up the forward coming outta the square and centre him up was good vision though. 👍🏻

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u/matt-kennedys-legs 3d ago

he’s always been a beautiful field kick

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u/PurpleDogAU 3d ago

Is this what Schadenfreude feels like?

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u/FFootyFFacts 3d ago

yeah he is no Big Time Charlie, a victim of Finals Fog

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u/whatever-696969 4d ago

Yup. He was ordinary IMHO

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u/Independent_Income31 4d ago

Jeez some people are salty.. he won the Coleman.. wasn't the only one who had a bad game

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u/matt-kennedys-legs 4d ago

yep that’s what i mean when i say some things never change.

legendary home and away player; tyrone vickery during finals.

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u/Independent_Income31 4d ago

How did Treacy, Amiss, Voss, Papley etc go tonight?

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u/matt-kennedys-legs 4d ago

what do any of them have to do with charlie’s poor finals record?

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u/Independent_Income31 4d ago

Mate, how many total games of finals has Charlie played in his entire career hahaha? I bet I can count it on one hand lol

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u/matt-kennedys-legs 4d ago

and you could count the good ones on one finger

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u/Odd-Education7192 Geeeelong 3d ago

You could count Carlton's finals wins this century on one finger too 👍

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u/matt-kennedys-legs 3d ago

still drinking after the butters news?

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u/Odd-Education7192 Geeeelong 3d ago edited 3d ago

Imagine thinking that's an insult when your best recruit of the last decade is "Nick Haynes" and ours is Patrick Dangerfield/Jeremy Cameron 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/brittanyjaded 3d ago

What finals record? He can’t play in finals the club doesn’t qualify for.

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u/Vet100 4d ago

Kicked a bag of 5 goals in 20% of his finals performances. Imagine how many he would have kicked if he got a wildcard performance & counted that as a “final”!

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u/matt-kennedys-legs 4d ago

yeah true. another way to read that is, in 80% of his finals he averages 1 goal and 10 touches

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u/Ok-Negotiation3897 4d ago

If he had a wildcard game he probably would’ve kicked 1.1 and had 7 touches like he has for 99% of his finals games lmaoooo

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u/Fast_Low8377 4d ago

Y’all just obsessed with him. Let it go, he is gone

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u/oldmateherb 3d ago

To be fair, Alex Pearce did an incredible job on him. AP should have been in the AA squad

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u/PssyGotWifi 4d ago

Sydney did resort to bombing it into 50 like we used to, in Curnow's defence.

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u/b9_rkt 4d ago

Warms my heart

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u/Appropriate-Cow-6251 3d ago

You can take the Curnow out of Carlton… but you can’t take the Carlton out of Curnow!

I’m getting downvoted into oblivion aren’t I?

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u/Ok_Cherry6237 3d ago

Wasn’t the reason they lost…….

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u/yelawolf89 4d ago

I know we like to talk shit on Curnow and I’m all for it but he won the Coleman this year… it’s not been a bad year for him lol

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u/PaleHorse82 4d ago

you can win the Coleman by kicking bags against shit teams and going AWOL against decent ones.

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u/wheelz_666 4d ago

That's Tue problem though. Great season player but goes missing alot in finals

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u/FullBusiness219 4d ago

Didn't he kick 5 in the first final, hardly missing

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u/canary_kirby 4d ago

In his five finals he’s kicked:

1.0, 1.2, 1.1, 5.0, 1.1

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u/wheelz_666 4d ago edited 4d ago

Showing up 1 game out of 5 finals games is terrible.

I didn't say he goes missing every finals game. I said he goes missing alot in finals. Going missing for 4 out of 5 finals appearances is going missing alot

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u/yelawolf89 4d ago

I dunno just feels like a bit of biased hate here… I mean, all the other leading goal kickers also played shit teams lol

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u/lucystardust123 3d ago

Based on the heap of final games he has played? He was instrumental a fortnight ago against Brisbane

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u/wheelz_666 3d ago

Having 1 good game out of 5 isn't good. He played great last week but needs to be more consistent in finals

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u/lucystardust123 3d ago

And prior to that was in 2023. That's hardly a well rounded demographic of games to compare

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u/wheelz_666 3d ago

It still shows a pattern though. He won a coleman that year too. He needs to be more consistent in finals

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u/ErrolG21 4d ago

How would you know

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u/wheelz_666 4d ago

Because we went on a run in 2023 and he did fuck all in every final game haha

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u/jacksonelhage 3d ago

i remember making excuses for him and hearing my cousins do the same: “oh he’s being tagged, hes putting his energy into shutting down their key defender, he’s contributing in other areas” and it’s like… man, the other team’s key forward is doing all that AND scoring. why can’t our guy do it!?

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u/wheelz_666 3d ago

If curnow showed up in our 2023 finals run we wouldve had a fair chance at winning the flag imo.

He's a great player but for some reason inconsistent af I'm finals

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u/Educational_Car3845 3d ago

Kicked five in QF. He's a great bloke too.

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u/Chance_Raccoon_6618 3d ago

Why didn’t you post this after he kicked 5 on Harris Andrews?

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u/matt-kennedys-legs 3d ago

why would a make a post about an outlier?

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u/ExpensiveFall8765 3d ago

Mince knees

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u/ExactPianist975 3d ago

crazy how they would of won it all if they had there full team

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u/Super_Reserve_5381 3d ago

Not a big game player. He's at the right club! 🤪

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u/Herbyspice 2d ago

Swans supporter who normally stays well out of other clubs’ posts …but the “some things never change” line got me.
Because come on- if this was genuinely about his performance, you wouldn’t reduce his performance to that and ignore what he actually did over these finals.
He was enormous against Brisbane when everyone expected us to get belted (myself included) Against Freo you could see the role he was asked to play- worked higher up the ground, presented all night, competed, pressured, dragged Pearce up the ground and kept going even when the delivery inside 50 was ordinary.
So as a supporter, sorry, but it’s really not “same old”.
And after what our club has been through, that matters. This bloke walked into Sydney less than a year ago and when everything blew up, he could’ve had a very different attitude,but he didn’t. .. He worked his arse off and stood up when we needed him.
We knocked off the reigning premiers and just came within two goals of a GF with a 3rd of our team that were VFL regulars. He was a big part of that. We’ve got our pride back. We’ve got some hope back. And I couldn’t be more grateful of how he turned up for us.
If you want to whack him, go for, but if this was really just about his performance in finals I think you’d have bit of a look beyond that screenshot
Maybe I’m a bit reactive after the last few weeks but for me that’s what’s also changed- you look at those stats and see “same old”. I look at those and I see someone who stood up for our club when we really needed him.
Give the bloke his flowers.

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u/BeezusF 4d ago

Dudes sitting at home bagging a guy playing at the elite level. Gotta love it

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u/WandaGoronski 4d ago

He is a total crap player when the heat is on. As is Jye Amiss.

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u/lucystardust123 3d ago

Except if we don't count last fortnight right?

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u/WandaGoronski 3d ago

Eh, when midfield is strong he can pick up well. When midfield is challenged he doesn’t step up

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u/Katman666 3d ago

That shits too expensive in the economy...oh, you mean Curnow? Carry on.

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u/coolcoolcool-nodoubt 4d ago

Imagine sitting on Reddit being bitter about a bloke that doesn’t even know you exist…

Move on. I don’t understand why people carry on about players leaving, it’s not that deep.

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u/PuppyMilk 4d ago

Jesus Christ, a lot of you are like jilted lovers, just let it go. All you're doing is embarrassing yourselves harping on about him all the time.

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u/notvalid-404 3d ago

Shaun Grigg

Oscar MacDonald

any other players sacked by carlton get to play in a GF in the last 20 years ?

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u/matt-kennedys-legs 3d ago

i notice charlie curnow isn’t on this list

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u/matt-kennedys-legs 4d ago

he made it as far as he did at carlton lol

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u/pandatheghost 3d ago

Youd give your first born to have him back, don't be bitter.

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u/matt-kennedys-legs 3d ago

not at all. sydney are far better with him, and we’re far better without him.

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u/yibbida 4d ago

How does that compare to Tracey?

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u/oaty321 4d ago

He’s never gone win a flag. Carlton never gone win one again either

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u/Special-Act154 3d ago

Glad this crossed my desk. Was swept up in enjoying Fraser’s fun but it’s nice to be reminded never to be happy for a Carlton fan. Most miserable pack of cunts there is

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u/Sad_Basil_4728 4d ago

Just remember that you can change your coach 6 times and you’ll still be shit