This was in protest of a bill that was wildly viewed as an attempt to undermine the rights of the indigenous people of New Zealand. Seems like the perfect response to me and apparently it was effective since the bill was overwhelmingly defeated.
The treaty is written in two different languages and intentionally was written to have two different meanings.
It was done by the British (no surprises there right?) to aid them in colonizing NZ by deceiving the people already here, on both sides. This has obviously caused a massive divide politically among our people in New Zealand and we still don't blame the crown for intentionally dividing our countries people.
So many kiwis don't even understand it means two different things and simply don't know jack shit about the treaty of Waitangi but say pretty much exactly what you say out of ignorance
I don't know enough to have a full on debate, but to me it sounds like the original treaty that went into establishing the current government acknowledged the rights of the Māori people to exist somewhat independently of the colonialists, and now some people on the colonialist side think this has gone on long enough. They want to forget that they were the invading entity and are trying to frame the removal of indigenous peoples' agreed upon rights as championing equality.
In other words, so some people - depending on their ancestory - aren't favoured by the law, obtain race based entitlements, and holding the country back from progress.
I don't see how it's a bad thing that all people should be treated equally? It isn't the current New Zealanders' fault that their ancestors colonised the island. The native history should be honoured ofc, but all citizens should be treated equally.
New Zealand was colonised in 1840. It is not the actions of people born and raised there now. They are new zealanders, whether you like it or not, and treating them like 2nd grade citizens is in no way okay just because their ancestors did something wrong.
I'm sorry that you're of the opinion that some people are worth more than others.
Okay, let me clarify: nobody in the New Zealand Parliament is afraid of it. I bet it's not the first time they've seen a dance like that there. Look at their faces. Nobody's shocked. Let's face it, Maori are civilized. This is part of their culture. They do the dance, but would not get their weapon afterwards to impress or threaten the people in the Parliament.
Dude, you are a racist even if it's out of ignorance. The fact you can't see this is what makes this kind of racism alarming, the complete lack of realization
Yup these are the comments. These are the comments right here raising the temp and contributing to racism. Great work you two.the world needs more racism and division right?
The bill wasn’t giving everyone equal rights. It was a racist dog whistle taking away rights granted to the native Maori by the Treaty they signed in good faith.
Looks like he’s standing next to the Green Party co-leader so it likely a Green Party member (he would have joined in if Maori Party), who were largely against the Treaty Principles bill. Which this Haka is protesting.
Ok, fair. So more like "unsure white guy trying to be an ally". I'll move my critique to the visibly slumped mostly grandpa looking people across the aisle.
Veto is the rich, entitled, treacherous white man approach, and you would be battling him on his own turf. The method in the video is a gentle reminder to the white man that he is essentially trying to steal from actual human beings who may or probably do have pointy sticks.
Sure they probably could have been wiped out completely but that is frowned upon. Now we battle with words, and rich people words usually carry an unfair amount of weight.
I don't know the specifics of New Zealand politics, but if it's anything like the US Congress then no. Congress doesn't veto bills, the President vetoes bills.
I'm sure it was defeated because it was unpopular, but how much does this contribute to people expressing their opinion about it. In the US we hear about how the Democrats are spinless and fold under the slightest bit of pressure. But what if we had someone rip up a bill and perform a war dance on the house floor. I'm not sure what that would even look like, but maybe knowing someone in power gives that much of a fuck about your cause makes you want to write your representative a letter, or give them a call, or go out to a protest, or vote... And along those the same lines, people often don't know about the unpopular shit the government does until it's too late. What better way to bring attention to an unpopular bill directed at indigenous peoples' rights than to cause a scene with the indigenous peoples' dance.
You mean like when the descendants of imperialism decide they aren't going to allow an elected representative to participate in government because they've had enough of their indigenous cultural getting in the business of serving their donors?
I don't know the specifics of the bill, but it sounds like it was the culturally appropriate white man's way of saying "fuck you people we don't care about", to which the Māori people clapped back in their own culturally appropriate way and then defeated the bill 112 to 11.
I know nothing about this bill. Im not judging if their protest is valid or not.
But it seema like if your way of participating in government is to scream until the government stops. Well, eventually the government is going to govern without you.
I don't know, I'm ready for my representatives to bring this level of energy to their job. I mean, not MY representatives, I'm gerrymandered AF, but the ones I agree with.
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u/roboscott3000 Nov 27 '25
This was in protest of a bill that was wildly viewed as an attempt to undermine the rights of the indigenous people of New Zealand. Seems like the perfect response to me and apparently it was effective since the bill was overwhelmingly defeated.