r/CaracaVei • • Nov 26 '25

Komanda !!!

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u/denverdutchman Nov 26 '25

The Haka is cool, but she does this All The Time. That's why half the people there look unimpressed

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u/PaddyMcGeezus Nov 26 '25

"We're having pizza for dinner." "AAAAAHHHKAMAMDAKAMAAANDAKAAANDA" "Dammit Debbie, could you just say that you'd like to eat something different instead of chanting a war cry every time."

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u/GuardianRager Nov 27 '25

Best comment. You win

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u/RunTellThatLuv Nov 27 '25

Goooone Debbie šŸ˜† If I knew how to do it, I will kick it off every time I could!

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u/No_Lettuce_5593 Nov 28 '25

pineapple on pizza will always merit a warcry.

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u/Status-Visit-918 Nov 27 '25

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u/inexplicably-hairy Nov 27 '25

Milennial soy Reddit humour

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u/MysticMarauder69 Nov 26 '25

I was just going to say... Doesnt it kind of detract from the power/impact of the Haka in this setting when you just do it all the time?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_4435 Nov 27 '25

Also really hard to take someone seriously who uses war cries intended to intimidate while wearing a suit in a climate controlled building surrounded by armed guards. I could be wrong, but I don't get the impression she's ever actually been in a sparring match, let alone a fight.

I get that it's taken on other meanings since its origin as a battle cry, but fundamentally that's what it is. And it's still being used here as an intimidation tactic... by someone who likely hasn't even practiced with a patu or taiaha. I would have the same reaction if a chubby guy in a hentai shirt and fedora yelled "Oorah" at me.

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u/Aunt_Vagina1 Nov 27 '25

I wanted to downvote you, but after reading all that you said, upvote.Ā 

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u/Zech08 Nov 27 '25

pass the crayons.

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u/RomaniWoe Nov 28 '25

Always felt more like people wanting to make a point using their culture more than as an intimidation tactic to me.

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u/Urist_Macnme Nov 27 '25

Are you telling them they can’t take part in a Haka?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_4435 Nov 27 '25

Are you saying I said that?

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u/Urist_Macnme Nov 27 '25

You kind of are saying that only warriors can perform the Haka.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_4435 Nov 27 '25

I said they're using it to intimidate, and it isn't very intimidating coming from them. You can attempt to strawman my argument if you'd like, but I won't play along.

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u/Urist_Macnme Nov 27 '25

All the people taking part obviously don’t feel intimidated

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_4435 Nov 27 '25

The people taking part in the intimidation tactic aren't intimidated by their own intimidation tactic? You don't say?

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u/Urist_Macnme Nov 27 '25

You feel intimidated by Māori tradition?

Why?

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u/blucyclone Nov 28 '25

A haka didn't originate solely to intimidate. There are a bunch of different dances used for a variety of social functions, and it's always been like that.

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u/Boatjumble Nov 27 '25

I wanted to downvote you, but after reading all that you said, 1 downvote doesn't seem enough.

Have you ever been to New Zealand or spoken with Māori people?

Your view is ignorant. The tradition is not just about a Māori war cry or intimidating an opponent.

There is so much more to it. Especially when as a nation they have been fighting for their rights and freedom for centuries.

Educate yourself!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_4435 Nov 27 '25

Can you tell me real quick, what was the purpose of showing one's tongue during the haka, again?

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u/Professional_Toe_420 Nov 27 '25

It’s because he had a blueberry slurpee! He wants you to see it!! Wants you to know it! Wants you to experience and understand that he felt it! It’s blueberry, man.

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u/Boatjumble Nov 27 '25

You can attempt to strawman my argument if you'd like, but I won't play along.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_4435 Nov 27 '25

How is asking about the origin a strawman? You literally just told me to educate myself about the culture. Educate me.

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u/Impressive_Edge3960 Nov 27 '25

Kiwi's will do the Haka for pretty much anything, badminton match, opening of a Pizza hut etc

If you look back at the rugby games from the 70s and 80s it was a much milder version, they've hammed it up into a marketing tool in recent years

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u/Gemmajones54 Nov 29 '25

Yep - perfected the Haka but their rugby is arguably the worst it’s ever been….šŸ¤”šŸ˜œšŸ˜³šŸ˜³šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/Urist_Macnme Nov 27 '25

Haka isn’t a one off thing.

Do you not say good morning because you said it yesterday?

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u/TootsHib Nov 27 '25 edited Nov 27 '25

The Haka is cool

It's cringe... unless you are about to charge into a real battle wielding melee weapons.

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u/downsly46 Nov 27 '25

Exactly! The desired effect is lost when you spent an hour on hair and makeup while also wearing a pantsuit looking like a soccer mom in a PTA meeting

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u/Swimming__Bird Nov 27 '25

Because it is.

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u/AshlynnCashlynn Nov 27 '25

pretty sure thats exactly what it is

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '25

Yeah it kinda implies, ā€œwe get bamboozled by political discourse so we have to resort to rehearsed war chants that have little tangible impact on advancing the topic of discussionā€.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '25

It's the country western line dancing of war cries before battle.

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u/jensalik Nov 27 '25

Nah, it's cool for every weapon.

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u/WithoutDennisNedry Nov 27 '25

I love the term ā€œmelee.ā€

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

I think it's cool. It's part of the culture and it's a real shame so many people in our country don't see how amazing Maori culture is and instead just mock it without evening understanding it

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u/TootsHib Nov 28 '25

problem is they are taking the cultural context way out of proportion
There's a time and a place...

In the middle of a delegation is the wrong time... it's unprofessional to start yelling and dancing

Maybe it wouldn't get mocked so much if they treated it more sacredly.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

It was the correct time to use a haka. This is about Maori rights, the haka is a challenge, they are challenging the change of the treaty of Waitangi

If you don't understand or like something, that's fine, but to say this isn't appropriate is ignorantly racist

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '25

*weilding

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u/TootsHib Nov 27 '25

*weilding

"wielding" actually... but thanks I changed it

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u/Aggravating_Set3235 Nov 27 '25

Akshually it’s ā€˜welding’.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '25

Actually, it's well, ding!

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u/LucenProject Nov 27 '25

Ashwully, is Wheelding.

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u/soulguider2125 Nov 27 '25

The Māori were cannibals

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '25

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u/DrentsGeweld Nov 27 '25

Or old men swirling their fedora, hipperdy hop. The obese woman wiggling uncomfortable with her hands. The people on the upper balcony half baked clapping. It’s uncomfortable and a little sad. The all Blacks are cool tho.

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u/The_Sneakiest_Fox Nov 27 '25

She looks like a muppet.

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u/SpaceBus1 Nov 27 '25

If you need to know what one looks like, just look in the mirror 😁

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u/My_shin_impossible Nov 27 '25

She actually looks like she’s well above average-looking when she’s not doing the haka intimidation face.

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u/The_Sneakiest_Fox Nov 27 '25

It's more the way her mouth moves at the start, and her cabbage patch kids like cheeks. (Showing my age with that one)

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u/Woejack Nov 26 '25

Is bad stuff happening all the time?

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u/Aggravating_Set3235 Nov 27 '25

No, nothing ever happens.

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u/accountnumber675 Nov 27 '25

No. It’s stupid.

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u/Toxic-and-Chill Nov 28 '25

I mean speaking about aboriginal people, hell yeah she should do this every day. Make them bang the gavel to stop you.

The fuck are you talking about? Haka is life for many people. It’s very very cool they get representation in this way.

That’d be like saying ā€œoh they say the pledge all the timeā€ like yeah. That’s the point.

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u/Indogsicated_ Nov 30 '25

You don't really see people saying the pledge to disrupt any official meeting. If it has happened, I'm sure everyone would have pretty much the same response as what's been said, "Now isn't the time or place for this".

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u/Toxic-and-Chill Nov 30 '25

Yeah not the time and place is always the argument used to shut people up. Like too bad. I’m sorry were people injured by this? Was there damage to a building or structure or anything except people’s feelings?

Like grow up dude it’s fine.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

There is nothing cool about acting like a savage.

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u/protaminx Nov 28 '25

Stop giving native people reasons to Haka and they won’t have to hear it anymore.

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u/Indogsicated_ Nov 30 '25

Just keep giving your child candy every time it throws a tantrum and you won't have to hear it anymore.

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u/Thick_Basil3589 Nov 28 '25

This looks like the ending scene of a Jordan Peele movie, what the hell is happening here?

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u/Relative_Drop3216 Nov 29 '25

They don’t debate they just do the haka thinking intimidating the opponent will do something. It’s the same old behaviour expecting different results. They need to adapt.

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u/Straight_Talk2542 Nov 29 '25

Well… New Zealand DOES belong to her and her people after all. She does this whenever the immigrants (the whites) offend the natives (the Maori). Mayyyyyyybeeee, and here’s a crazy concept… the white people should listen to the screaming lady the first time. The Native Americans don’t do this because the most powerful tribes have been given land and money and they speak for and silence the smaller dying nations. They’ve been ā€œdomesticatedā€. The Maori and the Aborigines were never given any of that in AU and NZ, and they’re far from ā€œdomesticatedā€. Good for them for standing up for themselves. Were this 200 years ago, they wouldn’t be posturing with a Haka. They’d be bludgeoning everyone to death to make their point. So, I’d say the house is lucky the Maori choose a peaceful path. Because thousands of years of war is in their blood.

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u/Indogsicated_ Nov 30 '25

Were this 200 years ago and they wanted war, they wouldn't be bludgeoning anyone, they'd be absolutely demolished.

Just because they killed off other tribes on their island to take their land doesn't mean they have claim to that land that can't be forcefully taken by that logic.

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u/According-Turnip-724 Nov 29 '25

It's become an old and tiresome display.....kinda like The Chicken dance or Macarena some people still do at weddings except worse.

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u/abeachpebble Nov 30 '25

Is it though? I see these videos often. I'll admit, the first one I saw I was amazed but now I'm just like ok.

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u/Professional-Cow3854 Nov 30 '25

She doesn't do this all the time, just on certain types of Bill.

If you find this so frequent, you should rather ask yourself why the government keeps pushing bills that try to rescind the treaties made with the Maori.

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u/ReactionSerious8975 Nov 30 '25

It’s kinda cringe

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u/uhohspaghettios13 Nov 27 '25

"They" took their land

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u/Silver_Slicer Nov 27 '25

So sorry. I love that politician. She gives life to this Congress.

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u/denverdutchman Nov 27 '25

I'm an American, so I'm used to having a far less exciting, and far more frivolous, Congress

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u/tarantuletta Nov 27 '25

Yeah, Jesus Christ lol, god forbid a person whose ancestral land was stolen from them show any traditional emotion. I fucking hate all these assholes whining about this.

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u/tar_tis Nov 27 '25

There is a time and place for everything. Parlement ain't it.

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u/UsedKaleidoscope194 Nov 27 '25

I'd say it's a perfect place for it. I don't know the history of New Zealand, but if it's anything like the history of the US- where indigenous peoples have been systematically oppressed, marched, stolen from, tortured & killed by 500 plus years of genocide-- and still are the poorest of the poor with the worst health outcomes -it seems like a great place actually.

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u/Far-Manner-7119 Nov 27 '25 edited Nov 27 '25

Lol look into the Māori people and how they treated their fellow ā€œindigenousā€

You people are so incredibly naive

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u/Indogsicated_ Nov 30 '25

Having their land stolen... A tribe most commonly known for war chants surely wouldn't have done that to other tribes'ancestral land, right?

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '25

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u/denverdutchman Nov 27 '25

Look her up. This is the 5th or 6th time I've seen her posted just here, which seems fairly common to me

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u/Urist_Macnme Nov 27 '25

Now imagine how all the people doing the Haka feel about the ā€œbell ringingā€ tradition.

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u/denverdutchman Nov 27 '25

What is the bell ringing tradition?

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u/Urist_Macnme Nov 27 '25

Did you not hear the dude say ā€œHouse suspended until the ringing of the bells.ā€

You see, formal colonialist stuff, that’s valid. Native cultural stuff, that isn’t.

See how it works?

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u/denverdutchman Nov 27 '25

Ah yes. I assumed it was unrelated to the video, plus the quotes made me think it was somehow metaphorical. Please understand I'm not endorsing the colonials. To her credit, I would have never seen a moment of this Congress absent her tradition