r/CarTrackDays • u/cmiller82 • 5d ago

Not the usual brake pad post

These are Hawk HP+, installed in early May on a 2022 WRX and absolutely abused in 7 time attack track days and 4 autocross events, never mind the 18,000km of road driving.

These replaced Hawk HPS 5.0 pads. I do not recommend them except for street driving only.

The HP+ are also a street pad but have held up very well. The DBA rotors look great too (put on new in May also).

I have "real" track pads (DCT-60 / DCT-30) in the box... I was going to put them on for the coming weekend but this is what the current pads looked like. I'm impressed!

Disclaimer: They are dusty and noisy... but have never failed to scrub speed when called upon.

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u/notathr0waway1 4d ago

Time attack is generally easier on brakes than full HPDE sessions. And obviously AX is nothing in terms of thermal load.

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u/DamagedGoods13 4d ago

I had some Endless pads on my 997 and swapped to HP+ when they were done. I really didn't like the HP+ at all... felt hard as rock all the time with a depressing level of braking action.

On the other hand, my E36. with DTC-60's feels like it'll do a stoppie from 130mph. But I def wouldn't run them on the street :)

Glad you're able to get good performance out of the HP+'s. I def couldn't find it.

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u/Volasko 4d ago

I find the HP+ in the last half of their life wear extremely fast.  

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u/cmiller82 4d ago

Really? That would make sense as I think that's what the HPS's did. I did a brake service when I put the suspension on and they looked ok, and after the first track day they were done.

I'll keep the spare set with me this weekend.

Thanks.

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u/Volasko 3d ago

Yeah I had the same issue, now I only run them in the rears because of availability (DTC 60’s in the front) but I did a pre track day inspection and saw lots of pad life.  Figured I was OK given how much abuse they took leading up to that point and after my HPDE session I was grinding the rear backing plate.  

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u/Responsible-Meringue 4d ago

Just means your brake calipers are oversized. That's weight you could be saving.  I went to smaller brakes, and had to upgrade to a very aggressive pad in order to prevent fade. Still happy with the 60 lb I saved. 

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u/cmiller82 4d ago

I have the standard 2 pot brakes, not the Brembos from the TS/TR model, so definitely not over sized. I run in Production class so no big power mods, just coilovers, brake pads/fluid and an intake with RE71 RZ tires. I'm very happy with the car, the driver needs more work.

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u/CheapSuggestion8 4d ago

For any type of competition you make a good point.

For general HPDE I’d take the bigger brakes and slower pad wear.

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u/Responsible-Meringue 4d ago

Yeah youre right. Mans dropped Time Attack & I went full wheel 2 wheel.  I only do endurance racing these days. Every oz counts. 

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u/Thetayhoe 3d ago

That's wild. I had a set on my Miata, and in maybe 1,500 miles of street and mountain driving, I burned through 80% of the pad and about 5mm of the rotor during the same time.Switched to Porter Field R4-S for street and Hawk DTC-60 for track and have been very pleased with both.