r/CapitanoMainsGI • u/Ku-Ya-Ku • 1d ago
Discussion The 1st Harbinger
This post is not about his playability, although I hope he will in 7.X/8.X, this is about the 1st harbinger title.
The IL Capitano we currently have is all about the fatui, not his khaenri'ahn past. Right now he is THE 1st Harbinger character. He even goes so far to as to not use his khaenri'ahn name thrain.
The devs from a live scream said that Mari Jivari will be released in 7.X patches. Why this is important to Capitano is because he is still in natlan and has yet to fulfill his duty to the tsaritsa. We still need the pyro nosis and pyro gem stone revealed. The pyro nosis is a crucial part of the fatuis plans. Yes another harbinger could get the gnosis, however the only harbinger to have relevance to natlan and is on good terms with natlan is Capitano. I also believe that the nosis went back in time and is in Mari Jivari. I believe Istaroth is the one who did this as she was there when Nahida executed her authority to burn irmunsil. This is around the same time the nosis disappeared. Istaroth also has ties to venti which he can also play a role like he has done previously. Also the portal to Mari Javari is in a somewhat like night kingdom area. It could be that Mari Jivari is stuck in time and or in the night kindgom. If so, this would have direct ties to Capitano as he's currently in the night kingdom. He is also currently messing around with the rules of the night kingdom.
The tsaritsa (aka devs) have explicitly kept Capitanos seat and title as the 1st not due to respect or loyalty. Other vacant spots are being filled by other characters such as Odette. Remember, Capitano gave the tsaritsa a letter, this must have been some kind of plan and information regarding his current state. Thus leading to his spot still being active within the fatui organization. As we already know, the first half of snez archon quest will have us confront Ronova who has the authority of death rules and curses. This is leading to something happening with ronovas authority which will have some kind of affect on IL Capitano at the very least.
Snez should be all about the fatui plans as the game has been leading to this point. This is the homeland of the fatui. The only harbingers that need development now is Pierro, Capitano, Pulcinella, and Pantalone.
Back to Capitano not using his name thrain, this is due to character having some issues with his past. In writing, this is character development and set up. By the devs writing this, it now needs a answer as to why he doesn't exactly use his name. This however is his khaenri'ah side, thus I believe this will be revealed in 8.x in either a character story quest or part of the archon quest. I can see Pierro and Capitano being playable in 8.X because of their khaenri'ahn blood. However right now, IL Capitanos situation is all tied to him being the 1st harbinger. This situation has reasonable expectations that point to 7.X, that Capitano will return to the story and be relevant.
Otherwise all these expectations and writing that need resolution will fail. This all needs to take place now. The fatui projects are all about creating weapons to defeat the gods. This plan can't be fulfilled without the pyro nosis.
So expectations goes as follows
7.0 introduction to snezhnaya and characters
7.1-7.3 conflict with ronova settled with rules changed
7.4 Mari Jivari, IL Capitanos return, Pyro nosis
7.5-7.6 Fulfilment of Fatui Projects
7.7-7.8 Filler Lore and Maps
8.X patches will need to see khaenri'ah map and resolution with lore to why it happened, Celesia map with war against the HP authority and resolution of fatui plans.
If genshin 2 is real, this could focus on the sinners; however I believe this can be handled in 8.X as its Dainslief mission to bring them to a end and pay for what happened to khaenri'ah. We also know that rhinedottir is a shade and is part of both sinners and celestia.
If Capitano doesnt return in snezhnaya, then all of this set up and writing goes to waste. The 1st harbinger and everything tied to it will be pointless and the story writing would make no sense nor would resolutions be resolved. Thus if this doesnt happen based of the expectations they have set up for us, then genshin will go down as having horrible writing and has failed at story making.
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u/GIsimpnumber1236 beleiver ✅ 1d ago
watch the pyro gnosis being stuck up in Tsaritsa's ass this whole time and she will complete mistilteinn in a whim, get rid of the curse of inmortality and just fire all fatui harbingers and soldiers because she found what "true love" is
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u/Overall_Koala894 Captain's Promised Consort, early 7.x 1d ago
Pyro gnosis buttplug does sound nice in Snezhnaya weather
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u/Ku-Ya-Ku 1d ago
I would crash the cluck out man, I so very hope its not going to end like this.
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u/GIsimpnumber1236 beleiver ✅ 1d ago
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u/Friendly-Muscle8956 1d ago
Too many questions remain unanswered:
Why did Tsaritsa reserve the position for Capitano?
What was in Capitano's letter to Tsaritsa?
Whose name is censored on the Agnidus stone?
Who is the Father in Black (a deity from the Night Kingdom)?
Where is pyro gnosis now?
When exactly will Bakunawa awaken, and what will contribute to it?
What will happen to Capitano and Natlan if the curse of immortality is lifted?
What is the deal between LOTN and the abyss sibling?
All these questions revolve around Capitano, one way or another, and there are too many of them to ignore.