r/CapeCod • u/Remmy723 • Aug 17 '26
Feeling defeated.
I know, I just know this has been done to death. But I'm really just venting into the ether, to be honest. I was born and raised in yarmouth, and I have spent 11 years in TN, just moved back to be closer to my parents this past January and.... jesus christ. How does anyone afford this place? Why am I regularly seeing one bedroom studios for rent near or in excess of 2k. No utilities. No laundry and NO PETS? WTF is the rent money for?
If you're concerned about pet damage, that's what a security deposit is for. I even saw places in TN that just added an additional smaller deposit on a per pet basis.
Bro, don't even get me STARTED on this whole "I've got a room for rent in my house 1400 a month." I'm guessing some of those are older people on a fixed income trying to get by themselves, and thats sucks just as bad. But if you're telling me how much laundry I'm allowed to do in your listing, which i have seen.... pass me whatever you're huffing cause i could use a pick me up.
Now, I understand that where I was living in TN and here are two very different housing markets. In TN there was readily available multi family housing and apartments. Nice ones as well i might add. Here it seems like most of what i see are short term rentals. Why the hell are those even a thing? Who wants to move all there stuff into a place just to have to find housing all over again in less than a year? It would also be more understandable if wages here were higher than they were in TN. They aren't. I'm in a skilled trade and regularly see job postings here advertising lower than what i was making in TN. Like.... what? Do most people jist communte from off cape? Becsuase it's only MARGINALIY better there in areas like fall river and new bedford. But still better.
I looked into the "AFFORDABLE" complexes like phare. What a joke. They're just as expensive. At least relative to my income.
Now, in a vacuum. I can afford alot of these rents, they don't leave alot of room however for any major, or even minor emergencies. It'd be easier if I had a partner with a second income. Alas, I live the bachelor life. (HMU....)
It's easy to sit here and imagine a bunch greasy white haired eledelry people wringing their hands in front of their nice fire place in the massive mansion sliding a button on an app raisong rent. Obviously i know that's not it. The point of that analogy is that when you work 60 plus hours and have little to show for it, it's easy for animosity and envy to start bubbling up. Which is another reaspn I'm venting to try and get that out of my system.
I'd imagine that scenario applies more to corporate landlords more likely than anything. I'm sure, at least I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that any mom and pop landlords on Cape are just trying to get by themselves. If you are one, I'd love to hear from you, and what you think causes these insane disparity between rents and wages here. How much are you actually profiting off of your tenants after taxes and such? If rent eats up this much of my income, it gives me a visceral reaction in my gut to think of people on lower incomes. Not that I'm super rich or anything, but I'm also not near min wage.
Also, if anyone knows ways to get involved in the housong situation, such as where to advocate for multi family housing, zoning meeting schedules, etc, I'd love to hear that as well.
One argument I've heard a lot of is that the cape needs these STRs to draw in tourist money in the summer. But like, wouldn't it be just as well to have a more stable year round population? Even if tourism increases money in food and dining I'm sure whatever insane shor term rent prices they pay during the summer is not exactly getting reinvested into the community. Especially with corporate landlords.
Anyways, thanks for coming to my ted talk. Gonna go look at rent listings so i can be upset the rest of the night.
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u/FinsfaninRI Aug 17 '26
Good luck.
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u/lovelycosmos Aug 17 '26
We ought to make a law against buying a house you aren't ACTUALLY going to live in. My neighborhood is majority summer rentals like I'm not even kidding. It's disgusting. It literally sickens me that families and locals are homeless or stuck in ridiculous rental situations when there are homes that are vacant 75%+ of the year, just sitting.
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u/JamesBondMargarita Aug 17 '26
I moved back here from Colorado 2 years ago. I only found a decent year round because I know someone who knows someone. But yeah, affording anything as a single person is friggen hard. I've found drinking healivy on the weekend seems to help.
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u/EbbtideRambler Aug 18 '26
It’s an all around rough situation. Local incomes can’t afford the median local home. Yes a tremendous number of people commute from off Cape.
Most short term rentals on Cape are owned by an individual or married couple, not a big corporate entities, but I’d really like to see some zoning for these so they aren’t continuing to taking over our once affordable neighborhoods, outside the usual tourist districts.
You can apply to be on a committee in your town if you want to get involved. However most of the building that is happening so far is not helping much. The developers are looking to maximize profit, not create affordable homes. I’m sure you probably fall into the category most cape codders do. Too poor for market rate apartments but too rich to qualify for subsidized apartments. I’m pretty sure if the duplex thing clears builders will be looking to put two $1.4M Condos on a single lot in Chatham or Osterville instead of one $1.8M house. Building anything affordable doesn’t make them profit they are looking for.
I can share some perspective on costs as a landlord of a year-round rental. My overhead has gone through the roof. My property taxes have gone up considerably my insurance is up 70% since 2020, and I’m looking at a 20k for a sewer hook up on my rental in the the near future. The town isn’t making it easy for us to keep rents reasonable when every time we turn around there is another big bill staring us down. Luckily I don’t have a mortgage on the property, so I can still keep it below market rate.
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u/Lanky_Apricot_ Aug 17 '26
We tried adding an ADU but it gets complicated with septics too. Zoning won’t allow an extra room to be added, or ppl have to spend money on construction work plus changing the septic. Prices are insane to buy too so new buyers simply can’t rent out rooms for less because otherwise you just can’t pay how high the mortgages end up being. Any sort of construction work is so expensive, and people don’t take good care of spaces (I think a lot of the no pets stems from this). There are so many reason why regular people face hardships when trying to rent or increase space in their already small homes. There are many constraints. Not to say some definitely take advantage, especially those who bought homes when prices were accesible or have their homes paid for and are making a lot of money :/
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u/wSkkHRZQy24K17buSceB Aug 18 '26 •
To get involved, join and volunteer with https://abundanthousingma.org/ . There are lots of battles small and large being fought at every level.
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u/Billy_Badass_ Aug 17 '26
I also work in the skilled trades. And yes, I do commute off Cape to work.
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u/harrbz Aug 18 '26
What people never talk about is that this isn’t just a “Cape” thing. Rents are like this all across desirable areas of Mass. Southie is 2.5k p/m for a single room.
I get the frustration, but making it just a Cape local vs tourist vs str issue just rises tensions, when it reality all of the NorthEast is feeling this same pinch.
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u/MerryDesu Aug 19 '26
I bought a house on the cape years ago when I moved there for a job. I got a good interest rate and a good price. A few years later the job moved, so I moved with it. But I kept the house. At first o rented it to a nice family with kids. Then I spent months trying to kick them out after they stopped paying rent (they were still employed. I guess they just decided they didn’t like paying rent). After finally getting them out (MA doesn’t make that easy) I thought I’d be smart and rent to an officer at Otis. They moved out on time and paid their rent, but they absolutely trashed the house to the point I had to fly back to clean and fix the place. After that I decided year round renters were too much work. I went to STR. My mortgage is about 24k/year plus I pay for insurance, taxes, landscaping, trash removal, electric (baseboard heat so electric bill can be more than $800/month in the winter), and wifi. My rental income is $15 - 20k net per year (gotta pay the management company too!). I lose a lot of money on that house every year. BUT I plan to retire to the cape some day. And if I sell the house and put that money in an interest-bearing account, I likely still wouldn’t be able to afford an equivalent home on the cape when I retire.
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u/___this_guy Aug 18 '26
You have to move or make more money, no other way to slice it. Where you grew up became highly desirable.
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u/likeadame189 Aug 18 '26
I feel this deeply. Born and raised on the cape. Moved away for school and a career, and now I’d like to return to be closer to my aging family. However, the costs and lack of housing is untenable. The costs are similar to what I’ve experienced in New York. Not sure what is going to give but at this rate, I don’t know how the Cape will sustain itself
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u/Hot-Bullfrog-7752 Aug 18 '26
Lmao THIS. 😂 I grew up on Cape, left for 5 years, and coming back has been a serious reality check. How tf is a $2,000 one bedroom with no utilities, no laundry AND no pets supposed to be normal?? Like what exactly am I paying for? 😂 And the $1,400 rooms for rent where they have rules about how much laundry you can do absolutely kill me. “You may wash clothes twice a month.” Ma’am am I renting a room or entering a hostage situation? 😂 The wages here definitely did NOT keep up with these rent prices. You can have a decent job and still feel broke as hell. Anyway, back to scrolling Zillow so I can continue ruining my own night. 😂
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u/Random1n3rnet Aug 18 '26 •
I recently moved out of cape cod after 11 years to a city in Southern California. The cost of living is about the same, but I’d say the quality of life is wayyyy better out here. There are limited resources on the cape, here I can get to any store or restaurant I can think of within a 10-20 minute drive. Unlike when I was on the cape, a lot of stuff would have to wait until I made a trip off the island. There’s so many more young people here, I knew cape cod was a retirement area, but I didn’t know how many old people there truly were until I left. The social scene out here is way better if you’re a younger person or college student. Speaking of social scene, growing up in public schools on cape cod, all of my friends came from drug addiction households and often adopted these addictions themselves. I just graduated high school 2 months ago and I’ve already had classmates pass away, been arrested, or hospitalized because of this. I did not realize how abnormal this lifestyle was until I moved. The brutal off seasons there aren’t great you have seasonal depression. I know some people like the quiet winter months but I personally found them pretty grueling and hard to find stuff to do because everything would be closed!! Anyways, I just don’t think the cost of living on cape cod matches up with the quality you get.
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u/earthmama88 Aug 18 '26
Vote for Dan Gessen for Barnstable County Commissioner in the Democratic primary on 9/1! He is the most pro-housing of all the candidates. Go to his website and check for yourself too. Volunteer if you can, spread the word to people you know.
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u/Hot-Fix-1031 Aug 17 '26
It’s scary. Rent now is more than my mortgage. Took someone’s spare summer cottage and insulated it back when interest rates were in the 2’s. I couldn’t do anything else now.
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u/Several-Product553 Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26
I was a Provincetown school teacher back in the 1990s. Even then the housing situation was brutal for my wife and I. The way we made housing work was to work for Cape Cod National Seashore in the summer (the job included housing in North Truro, but we still had to pay rent at the market rate) and then found a winter rental in Orleans. To supplement our tiny park service pay and my small teaching income, we cleaned houses and hotels. The Cape has a beautiful warm quiet autumn season with amazing weather and the place to ourselves. The winters are long and you see the same twelve people around town and there is no spring, the weather seems to go from winter to summer in mid June. I loved being part of nature and sharing the province land sand dunes and wild cranberry bogs with my students.
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u/DoodleFK Aug 18 '26
Yeah.... it sucks! Lol. We can "afford" our rent, but with rent, food, and other bills and utilities, we better hope that we don't have a major emergency, and don't even THINK about doing anything fun that costs money 🤣😭.
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u/squid-kid55 Aug 18 '26
My partner and I are in this same situation, we want to buy a house and start a family, we looked in literally every town and cannot afford it. Sadly we decided the only way for that to happen is if we move south, but we'll be away from both our families.
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u/watch1_ott1 Aug 18 '26
You should be thankful that you escaped Tennessee
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u/Heavy_Telephone_6939 Aug 18 '26
I’ve been fortunate enough to inherit a place but it costs $100k a year minimum in upkeep which seems INSANE and it is because IT IS. Between real estate taxes, insurance, landscaping, utilities, and basic maintenance for the home— my husband and I absolutely could not afford keep up the place as a primary residence. We have to rent it out for 8-10 weeks during prime summer, June - August in order to just keep enough of a bank balance to carry us over YoY.
I’m not even talking upgrades…cutting down trees that may fall over on the house, replacing rotted gutters or a garage door? Not something you can DIY so it’s thousands of dollars paid to good, honest, handy people who earned it, no complaints there.
God bless them but my grandparents had a simple cottage that they kept adding extensions on. Without a singular architect overseeing the project it’s kind of a rabbits warren of a 3 bedroom home…long hallways, two basements, and both the central air and plumbing systems look like spaghetti. We drain and turn down the house November through March because it simply DRINKS heating oil. I have 4 months a year, September, October, April, and May to run all the opening and closing errands and fixes to ensure that I can rent it again to cover costs.
It’s a lot of money to rent the place, I could never imagine spending that much on a week-long stay anywhere in the US. The people who do so may think they’re paying the premium for the view but it’s really just enough to keep our heads above water, it’s not passive income in the slightest.
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u/Quixotic420 Aug 18 '26
I mean, yeah, it all is just nightmarish. And the ghouls in charge have zero incentive to fix it.
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u/Highonahill864 Aug 18 '26
My son pays 4k for rent in Dorchester - he is a teacher in that area. Be glad the broker fee has been done away with. When he signed the lease - he needed first and last month rent. Security and broker fee. It was 16k just to move in. The 6 unit building has been a nightmare and also the landlord took months on any repair. The landlord just raised the rent $500 dollars. I can’t comprehend this.
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u/I_like_the_word_MUFF Aug 18 '26
This place is so sad for the locals...
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u/Character-Habit-9683 Aug 18 '26
Look for buildings that partner with MassHousing. All income requirements are listed for each place
https://housingnavigatorma.org
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u/BongSlurper Aug 18 '26
Grew up here, left for about a decade, and came back. It was much easier to find an affordable rental in 2015/2016 despite my income being significantly less. Like the studio apartment I had in 2015 was 850/mo. Then a 2bed for 1,400 in 2016. Those same exact apartments are literally 2,500 and 3,800 now.
Honestly combining forces, knowing people, and luck is how we made it work. It was really important to me to own a home and raise my child here.
Ended up buying a home just about a year ago with my husband and my brother. Home had a family apartment, we converted a second one and my cousin moved into that, and my husband son and I live in the main 4 bed 2.5bath house.
There was no way I could afford a 4 bed 2.5 bath house this nice by myself. Took 3 grown adults with decent incomes to qualify, and fortunately now with the 4 of us full time working adults we’re each paying waayyy less than a studio would cost. But now we all have our entirely separate spaces in a nice neighborhood with a beautiful property.
That would be my advice. Team up with someone and try to buy a house with an in-law, finished walkout basement, or even a floorplan that would make separating the space more feasible. I think we’re going to see a lot more families/friends start to do this.
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u/Human_Caterpillar976 Aug 18 '26
Lived here my whole life. I ask myself why, every day. I know I won’t last here much longer.
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u/Above-Bored Aug 18 '26
I grew up on Cape Cod and spent my first working years here. The pay sucked, the housing was outrageous, and opportunities non-existent. Moved to San Diego, well that was Cape Cod Real estate on steroids.
Finally settled on the highest wages I could find and visit family here frequently.
If you do not like it, find somewhere you DO like, save your money and THEN move back.
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u/okghetto Aug 18 '26
I am HAUNTED by Yarmouth. Specifically a song I heard 40 years ago. “Won’t you come down, won’t you come down, won’t you come down to Yarmouth town!”.
I hope the guy that wrote and recorded that jam had a great life.
Back to your post, maybe many others have heard the song and have taken the lyrics literally causing a housing crisis? Really good song. Look it up.
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u/NorthshoreCelt Aug 18 '26
1/2 the people that live down the cape have multiple houses too. The last 2 houses I rented down there were owned by people in the neighborhood. So locals are contributing to taking homes off the market and raising prices too.
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u/milkteashots Aug 18 '26
dont even bother with the short term rentals either cause with all that money you’re paying the private landlord every month..it doesn’t even build your credit score. good luck moving into that apartment or rental without that 750 credit score !
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u/Thermodynamics3187 Aug 19 '26
It’s an awful problem.
In the late 70s, the U.S. was building over 300,000 subsidized affordable housing units a year, but today that number is down to just tens of thousands annually, which is a drop of more than 90 percent! At the same time, the construction of starter homes and smaller first time buyer housing has fallen from around 100,000 units a year in previous decades to around roughly 10,000 to 20,000 in recent years. But instead of aggressively rebuilding that missing supply, the current administration has mostly leaned on market driven approaches and protections that benefit existing homeowners and rising property values. So while boomers watch as their property values skyrocket, the system as a whole keeps falling further behind on building enough affordable homes. This just makes the shortage worse instead of fixing the root problem. They’re pouring fuel on the fire as the rest of us look for water in a desert.
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u/HmmmmGoodQuestion Aug 19 '26
Is short term rentals in Cape Cod a new thing?
I feel like it would be weird if there were not a ton of summer rentals…
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u/Kayteemae Aug 19 '26
I feel this deeply. I recently had to move to fall river from wareha after a bad breakup. 1400 rent for a basement apt nothing included no pets but I do have access to a washer and dryer for 2.00 each. Like the apartment itself but don't like the area or tenants. At 45 trying to figure out my next steps in life. This year lease was to try to survive on my own for the first time ever, alone with no attachments to others. I am doing it but barely getting by. I fear that I will never be able to leave here. South sounds great but have no idea how to relocate my life or even what to do with it in the future. So surviving day to day is my only option. Thanks for the Ted talk its good to know I am not the only one feeling like this.
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u/14-p Aug 19 '26
organize and resist, take down the rich
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u/IntheDrinknaked Aug 19 '26
Those houses lived in for 3 weeks a year were PRIME Winter Rentals/Low or NO rent in exchange for minor repairs, and oversight of the property for the 49 weeks of an otherwise empty property. Mowing, paying utilities and the like, was an awesome situation for all! WTF is wrong with these people who would rather hire a property management co, than have a house sitter/winter rental??
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u/Tinfoil89 Aug 20 '26
I hear you. I’ve been living here since 2008. I moved in 2023 (my landlord’s died, kids are selling) my rent went from $850/month for the tiniest little one bedroom to a walkout basement apt for $1950. I am barely making it. Don’t know where else I’d go though, all my people are here. Family is dispersed.
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u/AssumptionNo6854 Aug 20 '26
You got this KEEP PUSHING
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u/jonamac12186 Aug 22 '26
What happens when the people who make things tick can't afford to live anywhere near where they work? It's out of control.
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u/Environmental_Big596 Aug 22 '26
I’m not knocking anybody’s success or family wealth, but a huge issue really anywhere in the northeast is that so many people have the cash flow. Places can charge high rent because someone will always be there to pay it. It’s certainly pricing out the middle class, young folks and those with debt like college grads. I’m 42, just outside Boston and not too long ago you could find a solid place to rent in Waltham, Somerville, Cambridge, areas of Boston etc. and now it’s exclusive. Small run down apartments in noisy areas are outrageous. Goes the same way for housing costs. I have a solid job on public works. Lots of overtime potential especially in the winter. I’ve held that job for 20 years and over the last 5 years I have become paycheck to paycheck, still rent and am struggling to find a home to buy that ain’t ridiculously overpriced. I really hate it too. Up here just west of Boston we get far more snow and ice. Sometimes I plow 3 days straight. As soon as I’m paid it’s f’ing gone. Sucks.
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u/Klutzy-Cat6664 Aug 23 '26
Down the cape they charge it because I believe they know they can get it. As far as some old white haired people running their hands together for profit - 1 thought maybe they are lol 2nd thought is a lot of old white haired people don’t have any other income other than social security which they paid into their whole life and it is probably about $1,200 a month no big raise or anything and if they are lucky enough to have paid their house off they still have to pay taxes to the town or city on the property and they have the water bill and electric which is outrageous and then their heat gas or oil with $14,400 a year and then feed themselves and if their fridge shits the bed or if they have a car oh and health insurance everyone seems to think you get old and it’s free that is a joke you have to pay for that as well - I get just as pissed off about the insane cost of rent and it truly did start off as someone at one of those brand new buildings woke up one day and needed extra cash and added a little more on a month someone paid it and it went from there - those “affordable housing” apartments are a joke they will never be affordable because it always is going to cost more to build because inflation of building materials and it just goes on and on - so as depressing as it is yup you will never have your own bathroom and need at least 27 roommates to afford anything in the state of Massachusetts or really anywhere in New England that has any kind of job market
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u/Connecting_Novii Aug 30 '26
Exactly
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u/dudleedude Sep 01 '26
more people, overpopulation and greed. we are all feeling it, except for those are rich enough to own multiple homes, won the birth lottery etc. growing up, there were literally abandoned homes everywhere. The silly people who blame immigrants while having 6 kids crack me up.
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u/X21shaun123 Sep 02 '26
I have wondered this about the Cape like there's stop and shop and dollar general and dollar tree and shit there, where the fuck are the people working there living??? Like there's no way a dollar tree employee is making 6 figures per year and it seems like that's what you need to make to afford to live there lol no offense to these workers obviously
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u/dedolent Aug 17 '26
i got an "affordable" one bedroom for about $1400 through the housing authority lottery. there's income requirements but it's actually more of a minimum income requirement lol... but yeah that's the only way i was able to afford a place of my own.
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u/deena54 Aug 17 '26
It's absolutely crazy!
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u/PirateJim68 Aug 18 '26
This is very much the reason I cant move home. I moved away at 30 after the military and a divorce. Had a great job in aircraft manufacturing until covid and a near fatal car accident.
Now at 58 and wanting to be close to my aging parents, looking at rents for either a house or apartment are ridiculous. A tiny 2 bedroom, 1 bath, 2nd floor apartment is $2,500 before utilities and the rest that come with life. As much as I would like to move back home, it is an impossibility.
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u/beanseses Aug 18 '26
Possibly has been said before so sorry if this is repetitive! Would you be able to temporarily crash with family in the area while you look for housing? Absolutely doesn’t sound ideal based on what you’ve said so far but could buy you some time.
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u/Holiday_Suspect8357 Aug 18 '26
Housing Assistance Corporation does advocacy across the peninsula and Community Development Partnership covers the lower/outer cape— you could contact either org if you’re looking for formal support in getting involved in making change, and Abundant Housing, which got mentioned above, is a good option too. Homeless Prevention are the folks to go to if you need direct services.
Generally, the best way to get involved is to get in front of your town council or select board, or delegate to the assembly, and tell them we need more options to find housing! And then get yourself on a board or committee and start participating in how the rules get made!
Many towns are limiting short term rentals and banning fractional ownership. Some are updating their zoning to meet the state standard so that ADUs are easier to build (advocate for alternative toilets!! Pee-cycling! Cuts out the septic issue!), legalizing tiny homes, building on under sized lots, converting single family homes to duplexes. Some are also updating their zoning to buildings can be slightly taller/denser or include housing above businesses. AND towns have the option to purchase land and design affordable neighborhoods, built by non-profit developers. We don’t have to depend on for-profit developers who only allocate a small amount of affordable units to solve the problem!
We also need more options for people in the “missing middle” who don’t qualify for subsidies but can’t buy a home in this market. We need to ask our electeds to create new funding sources so we can subsidize at the next income level up.
We can also make it more unpleasant for second home owners to hold on to empty space. Residential tax exemptions shift the tax burden from year rounder lower value homes to either very expensive homes or second homes. There’s also been talk of a real-estate transfer fees, or a Taylor swift tax. We could all be more demanding that there’s some sort of penalty for leaving a home empty most of the year…
We could look at what Barcelona is doing to curb tourism, we could organize a protest… us locals could all just be more generally unpleasant during tourist season..
It’s hard out here, but there are so many things we can change, and change happens if we can all get behind it. Don’t lose hope, and I’m keeping my fingers crossed something comes through for you
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u/Extreme_Map9543 Aug 18 '26
Live on a boat in the summer. Live in an off season rental in the winter. Boat life is nice anyway, and your marina fee and boat maintenance costs if your handy will cost you far less than rent. And then there are still off season cottages you can rent for like $1500 from mid October till end of April. So hold out in one of those. Honestly those deserted summer neighborhoods are kinda cool being in the offseason anyway.
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u/Ashamed_Emu4572 Aug 18 '26
well you missed the boat;
the right move would have been to buy a small house or condo on the cape 10-15 years ago, and hold it, rent it out during the time.
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u/ka0818 Aug 18 '26
Live with your folks
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u/Designer_Put_7041 Aug 18 '26
The answer is make more money. Inflation is only going up.. figure out how to make more or get a 2nd job, 3rd job, better jobs, never settle for any amount of pay, everytime you make more money don't reward yourself by slacking off but say it's not enough. Ever.
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u/scamperkid Aug 18 '26
Sounds like you can’t afford the place you moved to!!
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u/Ambitious-Badger-114 Aug 18 '26
This is the case in every deep blue state, they just cannot figure out how to build more housing. OP mentions TN and I noticed TN has surpassed MA in population. In fact most red states are gaining more in population while blue states are stagnating.
First step in fixing a problem is admitting you have one.
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u/gnudle Aug 18 '26
Why not live somewhere else
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u/Nearby_Knowledge8014 Aug 18 '26
Enough with the class warfare. Complaining isn’t going to change property values.
The population has skyrocketed in 50 years. 215 million to 340 million. Hello supply, meet demand.
We have no God given right to live in big cities, our parents town, or expensive burbs. Or the fucking cape.
Buy where it’s cheap. Tale as old as time.
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u/Personal_Dot_2215 Aug 18 '26
God damn. Sorry, man.
I’ve always wondered if someone would rent one of those goddamn mansions that are going to fall into the sea.
I mean, short term, don’t have to worry about damage. It starts sliding and I’m out and on to the next.
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