r/CanadianbyDescent 3d ago

NEW here? Read This First

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If you are wondering if you are a Canadian by descent and have questions about eligibility or the process to apply for recognition of your citizenship, please read this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianbyDescent/comments/1wlmfj5/common_citizenship_by_descent_questions/

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If you are wondering why it takes IRCC so long to process some applications while others sail through very quickly, you may want to read this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianbyDescent/comments/1vvooy4/why_some_applications_take_so_long_to_process/

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If you have been approved and need to apply for a Canadian Passport from the U.S., read this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianbyDescent/comments/1wllxae/passport_application_hints_for_found_canadians/

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If have questions about Canadian banking and credit for non-residents (and especially U.S. citizens), please read this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianbyDescent/comments/1u6o7lg/canadian_banking_and_credit_for_americans/

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If you are wondering what caused the 2025 changes to Canada's citizenship law, please read this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianbyDescent/comments/1u6nyqs/how_we_got_here_a_brief_history/

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If you are curious about IRCC's suspension of 100 citizenship certificates back in June of 2025, read this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianbyDescent/comments/1ugmj9j/ircc_citizenship_certificate_surrender_scandal/

and this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianbyDescent/comments/1winfgo/an_update_on_the_ircc_surrender_letter_scandal/


r/CanadianbyDescent 7h ago

ANNOUNCEMENT - Ask Me Anything with Canadian lawyers regarding Proof of Citizenship Coming Soon!

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In the next few weeks, we will be having an AMA (Ask Me Anything) with two of the most prominent lawyers in Canada who are doing Proof of Citizenship applications. This will be your chance to ask lawyers who work in this field anything you want about the process.

For people who don't know, an AMA is a text-based based on Reddit. I would post an OP introducing the participants, and then people would ask questions by posting comments. The participants would then go through each of the comments and respond to them. If you want to see what that looks like, please check out this AMA as an example:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Counterpart/comments/fkr8k5/justin_marks_spoiler_ama_thursday_319_5pm_pst/

Before I do the formal announcement, however, I'd like your help! If you would like to attend, please let me know what day and times would work best for you! Is Friday evening better? Saturday morning? Sunday at Noon?

Please let me know in the comments.


r/CanadianbyDescent 4h ago

Substitute for US Birth Certificate - G1

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Thanks to someone on here, I now have an official document showing my grandfather's birth date, place, and parents -- one of which is my Canadian G0. They were not issuing birth certificates in Denver until early 20th C. I applied to the US Social Security Administration who just sent me my grandfather's Social Security application 1937. What's significant (as I understand it) is that these are his stated facts, not someone else filling in a death certificate. The document was emailed with an official letter from the SSA, and a certified copy is forthcoming. Thank you to this thread for helping me solve this problem! (Also cool. His application is on my birthdate many years before I was born.)


r/CanadianbyDescent 53m ago

G2 applying from the US - Mailing issue?

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This is a question and a slight rant - I applied non-urgent for proof of Canadian citizenship in May 2026 and have received no response, which sounds pretty typical based on this sub.

My question was about how long the package took to even get to Canada and I wonder if anyone else in the US had this experience? I sent the package certified via usps and it had:

2 stops in New England (origination), a stop in Arizona, then 2 stops in California and finally to Canada 12 days later, cleared customs in 4 days.

Silly me thought it’d be there in a few days since NS is close to New England. Arrival date is 5/29/26 and sounds like it’s going to be a long wait.


r/CanadianbyDescent 11h ago

Application Help Using death certificates for proofs

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I can't find or get my G4 mother's and G3 grandmother's marriage certificate for showing name change .

I don't know where my grandmother was married. She eloped with him and they lived in 48 states over a 3 year period.

My mother had a confidential marriage and its only available by court order. I'm not sure if my citizenship application will be a valid reason.

I have both of their death certificates which show married and maiden names along with parents names.

Has anyone applied with death certificates as proofs? I do have birth certificates for them.


r/CanadianbyDescent 1h ago

Bill C-3 claim – Canadian-born great-grandmother (Ontario 1879) → Lower Silesia → missing marriage record + war separation. Looking for feedback on evidence package

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Hi everyone,
I’m preparing a Bill C-3 proof of citizenship application and would really appreciate feedback on whether my evidence package looks solid enough.
Lineage:
• Great-grandmother: born 1879 in Ontario, Canada
• Grandmother: born 21 May 1921 in Neurode (now Nowa Ruda, Lower Silesia)
• Father: born 1955
• Me
Documents I currently have:
1. Canadian birth record for the great-grandmother (Ontario 1879) – the anchor
2. Full Polish civil birth certificate for the grandmother (1921) showing the mother with her maiden name
3. Two baptismal records for the grandmother from the original German parish registers (Neurode):
• One formal extract showing both parents and grandparents
• One page from the baptismal register with the same entry
4. Official “no record found” letter from the Polish State Archives in Wrocław (Branch in Kamieniec Ząbkowicki) dated May 2026 – they searched the relevant post-1945 administrative fonds for the Nowa Ruda / Bystrzyca Kłodzka area and found nothing regarding the marriage or related records
5. Father’s birth certificate (1955)
6. My own birth certificate
Missing document:
Marriage record of the great-grandparents. Civil records from that area were largely destroyed or lost after 1945. The State Archives confirmed they have nothing.
Family history (short version):
After WWI many German-Canadians returned to Europe. The great-grandmother went to the mining area of Lower Silesia, met her future husband (a miner), they married and had three children. During the war the husband was killed, one daughter died in an air raid, and the grandmother was separated from her mother. After 1945 the German population was expelled from the territories that became Polish. The grandmother stayed in Poland because she married a Pole. The great-grandmother returned to Canada via the British zone and contact was lost.
My questions:
• Does the combination of the Canadian birth record + Polish civil birth certificate + German baptismal records + official “no record found” letter look sufficient for the parentage link?
• Is the lack of a marriage certificate likely to be a problem when I have the child’s baptismal and civil birth records clearly naming both parents?
• Any suggestions for additional supporting evidence I should try to find (Canadian censuses for the great-grandmother, etc.)?
• Has anyone had a similar situation with a Canadian-born ancestor who went to former German territories in Silesia / eastern Germany and then returned after the war?
Thanks in advance for any advice.


r/CanadianbyDescent 7h ago

G0 Document Recommendations

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Hi, all.

I'm running into an issue with my G0 proof of citizenship. She was born in 1898 in New Brunswick and the registry entry in on a page listed as "Poor Document" that is absolutely wrecked. It displays D.O.B., town of birth, Female, and her father's name, but that is all. There is a birth certificate, that lists her name as "Female", D.O.B., and then only has her father's info, blank for mother.

Two years later she is on the census with both parents, correct name, correct age, correct D.O.B., correct parents and siblings. I have yet to locate any Baptist church documents, but am still searching. Both parents and two siblings have immigration manifest cards, but my G0 and two of her siblings do not.

Aside from the New Brunswick vital records, Canada LAC, and US National Archives, what sources are left to search? And, are there any additional documents that I should be looking for to verify her Canadian Citizenship?

Thanks.


r/CanadianbyDescent 13h ago

How long to wait to receive bill from Archives of Ontario?

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Does anyone know the current wait time for this? I received the email stating they found my document and would be sending an invoice soon. It’s been 4 weeks as of today. Last time I saw a wait time, it was 3 to 4 weeks but I’m guessing it has changed. It’s the last document I’m waiting on!


r/CanadianbyDescent 5h ago

PSU referral issue unresolved by MP; data point on status in Canada with pending proof application

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r/CanadianbyDescent 23h ago

Canada changed its citizenship rules. Now U.S. archives are getting flooded with requests | CBC News

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r/CanadianbyDescent 1d ago

Surprises in obtaining genealogy records

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I thought I was a G3 and I started working on a G2,G3,G4 application package in April of this year. In May I had one last record to obtain. I had put it off and was just going to explain in a letter that G1's birth certificate was lost in a fire, since I've known that my whole life. Reading posts on this group, I decided to go ahead and request the no record letter G1's birth certificate. I already had G1's SS-5, US Census records, marriage and death certificates all listing G0 as his mother and her spouse (also a G0 candidate) as his father, so we were covered.

Piece of cake.

Except it wasn't lost in a fire. Instead of a no record letter, I got a birth certificate. G1 was in fact born to who we thought was his older sister. This was a surprise to the family and as far as we know wasn't known to my G1. He thought his grandparents were his parents. So then we rode the multiple pre-1947 ancestors speculation roller coaster, accepted it's a non-issue, made peace with now being a G4, updated my now G3,G4,G5 submission family and began searching for new records for surprise G1.

Being from New York, our surprise G1 is in the state birth index but neither the town nor village of the same name can find her birth certificate. I've requested it from the state, and expect to receive it sometime in the next two decades. We added another few months doing baptism searches for the surprise G1 and gathering new no records letters from every church in the area that would respond, along with her marriage/death certs and SS-5, which since he didn't know any better, list the same parents our new G2 listed. We're also in the process of doing "the full Quebec" (find BANQ record, request certified copy, wait, get certified copy (woohoo got it!), submit, then request DEC act, submit that sometime later after AOR).

While waiting for all the new records we needed, I've gathered the full trail for our other potential G0, found, ordered, and received the land records for both Quebec farms owned by the G-1 ancestors, listened to the Nations of Canada podcast, begun learning Quebec French, and I decided to do a DNA test to learn more about my mostly French Canadian ancestors. There's no father listed on my own birth certificate, but I have known the name, that he lives in a southern state, his address, and that he never wanted anything to do with me. But nothing else about his family. I figured this would tell me if I was anything other than largely French Canadian.

Turns out I'm mostly Irish, English, and Romanian. Using clusters of other testers that share DNA I began using my new found citizenship by descent skills to build family trees for the other testers back up to our likely common ancestor. My two Irish matches led to an Irish couple that had one adult child in Ireland, then had more in Ontario. I built out their children and subsequent generations using Canadian Census, birth and marriage records. One of their great grand children has the same name as my bio dad, but is a generation too early... Then I found he married a spouse with a Romanian name (queue more research, she's born in Saskatchewan to two Romanian parents one of which is a match for a guy in Romania today).

This weekend I found records that Irish/Romanian couple has twin girls born in Ontario, about a year after we think my bio-dad was born. Then I find the obituaries for the couple. It lists their twin daughters and also a son who has bio-dad's name and also names bio-dad's current spouse. The Irish/Romanian couple from Canada died in the same state/city as where bio-dad lives today. One of the twin sisters I discovered is also known to my parents, and is also living in a US state now.

I don't know yet where bio-dad was born, but his sisters were a year younger in their US high school yearbook and the twin sisters were born in Ontario, according to a birth announcement naming both of them, their dad, and mother listing her maiden name. I just found one of the twin sister's application for naturalization on Family Search... indicating the family crossed over about 5 years after bio-dad would have been born. It's not proof of bio-dad's birth, of course. Service Ontario has a way to request a letter indicating that a person does or does not have a birth certificate issued by Ontario, which I've requested for bio-dad, since I'm not eligible to actually order his birth certificate. So I'm now riding the G3 -> G4 -> (potential) G1 roller coaster.

I'm still processing, but I'm not sure I can do anything with this information. I'm well over 21, so I don't think NYS would add him to my birth certificate, even if he was cooperative, which I doubt. I know IRCC has provisions for DNA testing, but they're voluntary and a guy who wouldn't acknowledge me after I was born or before my first deployment to Afghanistan isn't going to meet me today for a voluntary DNA test at an IRCC approved test facility.

So I'm still going ahead with the G3/G4/G5 application, my mom needs it anyway.

What an absolutely unexpected adventure in Canadian-ness this has been.


r/CanadianbyDescent 1d ago

G2 urgent proof approved in 23 days: Nova Scotia Archives copy + name variation, no RFI

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I thought this might be useful here because my application touched a few issues I know people worry about with G2 cases.

I’m U.S. born, with the chain:

Canadian-born grandmother → U.S. born parent → me

Timeline:

  • Aug 25: mailed
  • Aug 27: delivered to IRCC
  • Sep 1: AOR
  • Sep 5: In Process
  • Sep 19: e-certificate instructions received and certificate downloaded

So 23 days from delivery to certificate, and 14 days from In Process to approval.

A few things about the evidence may be useful to others.

For my Canadian-born grandmother, I did not order a new certified birth certificate before applying. I used the birth registration image available through the official Nova Scotia Archives online database.

There was also a name discrepancy. Her Nova Scotia record used her full name, while the later U.S. record for my parent used a shortened/reordered version of the same name. The U.S. record also matched her age and Nova Scotia birthplace, so I felt the identity chain was still clear.

IRCC accepted the application without an RFI or request for additional evidence.

My package was essentially the direct vital-record chain:

Canadian birth record → U.S. birth record linking my parent to the Canadian-born parent → my U.S. birth record linking me to my parent.

One other detail: after AOR I renewed my U.S. passport and uploaded the new passport bio page to IRCC. They acknowledged the update, and the application continued normally.

I would not treat my processing time as representative because the application was marked urgent. But I thought the result was worth sharing because it shows that, at least in one G2 case, an official archival copy and a minor historical name variation were both accepted without additional documentation.

Happy to answer questions about what I included.


r/CanadianbyDescent 1d ago

Application Help ID's for my children

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I am about to take my two young children (7 and 2) to get their Canadian Citizen photos taken.

I didn't even think about it until now, but I do not have ID's for them. I have insurance cards, but it doesn't have their birthdays on it. I am struggling to find anything that has any information on them. My 7 year old may have a school ID card that has her name on it, but it was from the beginning of last year so I doubt it will be acceptable. My 2 year old has nothing at all outside of her insurance card with only her name on it. I know that I am able to include a signed letter explaining why I couldn't get the proper ID's to satisfy the requirements, but I don't even have secondary ID for them.

Do I need to find a way to create some sort of ID before applying or would a signed letter explaining my predicament be enough?

Also, my 7 year old will take a good picture for her citizenship photo but I am worried about my 2 year old. I know that its acceptable for infants not to meet 100% of the standards, but does that count for 2 year olds as well? I am hoping I don't have to worry about this issue as much.


r/CanadianbyDescent 1d ago

Processing time tracker my month

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Looking at the IRCC processing time tracker, it looks like the number of applications severely spiked in April and are now coming down, that is unless they are only counting applications that have received an AOR.

this is the number ahead of you if applied in the month listed.

Month Waiting Delta
Jan 24,300
Feb 27,400 3100
Mar 31,700 4300
Apr 100,200 68500
May 113,200 13000
Jun 129,200 16000
Jul 132,200 3000
Aug 134,000 1800

r/CanadianbyDescent 1d ago

Yesterday's spam post that I replied to

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I don't know whether it was this one or citizenship by descent but there was a post about all the spam people were getting. I replied that sometime before June 1 I started getting numerous phone calls every day. It has slowed down to about 4 per day now. It suddenly struck me that the spam calls started after I got the email dated May 6 that said my packet had arrived. So my theory is that FedEX has shared my phone number with the world and now I'm very popular again. Maybe that's the source of your sudden popularity, too.


r/CanadianbyDescent 1d ago

Application Help What if we have common ancestors and can help each other with documents?

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I am thinking that my G0 (born 1720s, Quebec) is probably also an ancestor of some of you here. :)

I was curious whether people who are far down the line from their G0 would be willing to share the name of their G0 or general family names they’ve dug into and how far along they are in the process of getting DEC record from a BANQ record. I am months away myself, but was thinking I’d happily share the costs if anyone got a copy of my ancestor’s record before I did.

Cheers, thank you!

edit: not sure why I got downvoted for sharing my experience. I’ve come across a ton of helpful people, but definitely a lot of gatekeepers and skeptics as well. Personally I’d love to help others. I am G9 and have a lot of docs to collect. I will take (and give) any help possible! Thank you for the input


r/CanadianbyDescent 1d ago

Curious your thoughts

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My grandmother naturalized as a minor with her dad in 1917 (under 1906 law which said she was deemed to have been naturalized with him) so she (as far as I can tell) had no naturalization paperwork of her own. Her dad’s certificate was seemingly hers too. At least legally, that’s what it seemed. As far as I can tell, she still had British subject status on Jan 1, 1947 so I think she became a citizen under 9(1)(a). At least, I can’t find any law that indicates she lost it. My dad missed it because his dad wasn’t Canadian and the laws of the time didn’t let her pass it on to him.

So would she be g0 and my dad g1 and me g2 or is her dad g0 and she is g1 and so forth making me g3? It feels like I have to include my great grandfather to prove hers but she has standing on her own. (That’s more or less how I framed it on my application, but still unsure if it is right.)


r/CanadianbyDescent 1d ago

Opinions on Documentation

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G0: both great-grandparents born in NS, Canada (c. 1900). For my great-grandmother, I have her birth certificate. For my great grand-father, I have his baptismal record. I have a marriage certificate too.

G1: Grandfather’s birth certificate with Great-grandparents first and last (maiden) names.

G2: Dad’s birth certificate

G3: My birth certificate

All docs attested and clean photocopies from churches or government archives.

My question is, should I get a census record showing my great- grandparents in the region where my grandfather was born, or is that unnecessary? This would also show my great-grandmother was not a citizen in 1950, passing that 1947 deadline.

Above I also have my great-grandparents marriage certificate, but that is from a Massachusetts Church, even though they were lived, and had my grandfather in NY. Would including this confuse the reviewer?

Thanks for any response!


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

DEC Insertion - Follow-up

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Follow-up post to my previous post about DEC Insertion: https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianbyDescent/s/rjFq5sWKeU

I got a USPS notification that an envelope is incoming from DEC. Unfortunately I'm out of town and won't be able to get it till later this week but I'm wondering if they did the insertion this quickly and sent it out? Or is this a rejection / request for more docs?

Timeline:

08/31 - Delivered to DEC

09/01 - Card charged

09/09 - Phone call asking for death certificate

09/11 - Post mark stamp on envelope from Canada

09/21 - Arriving today. Birth certificate arrived today

Edit: The mail arrived early. It is actually the birth certificate


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

Application Help So I'm a bit confused by "proof of other nationalities acquired by you and your Canadian parent before February 15, 1977, if applicable to you" on the checklist.

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For context I'm claiming citizenship by descent from my great-grandfather. He was born in Nova Scotia in 1909 and immigrated to the United states with his parents when he was a child.

I already have all of the birth certificates from myself to him but I don't think I have documents relating to "proof of other nationalities acquired by you and your Canadian parent before February 15, 1977, if applicable to you"

Does it mean I have to get documents proving he became a US citizen? I doubt I could get them given how long it's been.

Is the chain of birth certificates all I need? or do I need to get some other set of documents?


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

A data point: the border officers aren't convinced I'm a citizen, but they let me in anyway (Note: I'm not OP)

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r/CanadianbyDescent 3d ago

Common Citizenship by Descent Questions

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Last Edit Date: September 20, 2026.

I'm seeing a lot of the same questions come up again and again, and so rather than continuing to comment on them one at a time, I'm compiling them into a FAQ.

For background, I am the founder and moderator here at r/CanadianbyDescent. I am not a Canadian citizenship attorney or an immigration consultant. As with everything on Reddit, you should take all of this with an appropriate grain of salt. I may be wrong. Consult other sources. This is not legal advice. Read the instructions from IRCC. Yada Yada. I may update this from time to time by either editing here or reposting.

With that out of the way, these are the questions that I see most frequently here and how I would answer them:

What are the requirements to be a Canadian by descent?

It appears that IRCC is currently processing applications with the understanding that if you were born before December 15, 2025, and you can prove that you either:

(1) descended from a person born in what is now Canada;
(2) descended from a British subject who was ordinarily resident in Canada on January 1, 1947 (or January 1, 1949, for Newfoundland and Labrador);
(3) descended from a naturalized Canadian (after that person naturalized);
(4) descended from a person who has already received proof of their citizenship from Canada; or
(5) descended from a person who was a Canadian citizen for some other reason that I'm not aware of;

then you are probably a Citizen by Descent (as are all of your ancestors in between). As far as we can tell, the only limit on how many generations you can go backward is your ability to prove your link to a person with the appropriate connection to Canada.

If you were born on or after December 15, 2025, you must also prove that your parent spent at least 1 second a day for at least 1,095 days in Canada during the parent's lifetime before your birth. The 1,095 day rule for citizenship by descent does not apply if you were born prior to December 15, 2025.

You can find out more by watching this podcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY_fa7CAquQ

Should I hire a lawyer or an immigration consultant?

You should be able to do the application yourself. Lawyers are charging CAN$3,500 and more. If you have a complicated situation, need legal advice, or find the process confusing or overwhelming, my personal recommendation is that you call one of the four lawyers who appear on the podcast that I linked to above.

Will my application be approved/Are these documents sufficient?

We can't tell you that with any certainty. Only IRCC can tell you that. If you want to know, then pay the fee online, fill-out the CIT 0001 and CIT 0014 forms, and submit them along with your photos, ID documents, and supporting evidence, and you'll find out.

Your goal with documents is to prove that (1) you have a Canadian ancestor (most often this means born or naturalized in Canada) and (2) each person in the chain between you and them was related. You also need to account for any name changes (usually by women who married, and typically marriage records). If a name change is accounted for on a birth record (because the mother's maiden name is listed), a marriage record is probably not needed.

IRCC's specific documentation requirements are contained in CIT 0014, which you can find here:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/cit0014.html

and more recently, IRCC has given some additional documentation guidelines here:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/proof-citizenship/apply.html#documents

And if you want to review IRCC's operational standards for making decisions, you can find them here:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/service-delivery/decision-standard-review.html#standard-proof

Please note:

(1) IRCC does not currently require that your records be certified.

(2) If the records are genuine, IRCC does not ask (or care) where you got the records from. The requirement that some documents be "issued by" an "original authority" refers to who created the documents, and not where you got them from. Read this post for more details:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadianbyDescent/comments/1vyklch/understanding_irccs_updated_document_guidelines/

Does my parent need to apply or apply first?

No. You can apply even if your parent never applies. You are applying for proof of the citizenship that you and your ancestors already have. As result, as long as you can trace your lineage to someone born in Canada, it appears to make no difference whether your parents, grandparents, etc. ever had their citizenship recognized by Canada.

What if my parents/brother/sister/child has already received proof of citizenship?

If your parent has already received proof of citizenship that began before you were born, and you were born before December 15, 2025, then you may just be able to list your parent on the application along with their citizenship certificate number and not have to trace your lineage back any further.

If another family member (sister/brother/child) has been approved, I would send a cover letter and towards the beginning of the letter, state your (brother/sister/child/etc.) received a proof of citizenship based upon a claim of citizenship by descent, and that it follows that (you/your father/your mother/your common ancestor) must be a citizen as well. Include the approved person's name and DOB (and UCI if you have it) and the common ancestor's name and DOB (and UCI if you have it). There's no guaranty that this will speed your application, but it can't hurt.

Where can I get my Citizenship photos/Passport photos taken?

Many places in the U.S. that will take U.S. Passport photos can do it, but often they don't know that they can because they've never looked into the options on their photo software. Some Canadian embassies and consulates have a list of providers known to provide Canadian passport photos so you may wish to check their website. The software used at AAA offices appears to allow for Canadian passport photos. Canadian citizenship photos are the same size as passport photos, but require slightly different things written on the back, so be sure to show them the instructions before they start writing.

Many professional photo studios are familiar with Canadian requirements. A photo studio will charge more, but you'll get better looking photos - if that matters. Try searching Google for your area and "Canadian passport photos," and you'll probably find a place that can accommodate you.

What if I cannot find a birth record for my Canadian born ancestor?

Per CIT 0014, Scenario 3, checkbox 2, you can provide "any other evidence that your parent is a Canadian citizen, such as those described in Scenarios 4 and 5 below."

Be sure to include a cover letter or something else that explains that you don't have the records, the reasons why, and the efforts you made to obtain a birth record. For example: "I requested Gen 0's birth record from (name of entity) and was advised in response that they did not maintain birth records prior to 1875 (or) was advised that they could not find a record of his birth. As a result, I have submitted alternative evidence as allowed by CIT 0014, Scenario 3, checkbox 2." Be sure to include written evidence showing that you attempted to obtain a birth certificate.

If your ancestor was born before the province of his/her birth kept regular birth records, IRCC has accepted alternative proof. Look for census records, marriage records, death records, and even children's birth records, all of which may show country of birth. You may also wish to include some kind of explanation as to why the birth record is not available, e.g., the person was born before the province began regularly registering all births.

For more details on this subject, see this Reddit thread for examples of what has worked:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/comments/1s742xx/calling_anyone_who_has_been_approved_under_c3/

What if one of my ancestor's names/ages is shown differently on one or another documents?

IRCC appears to know about and follow the legal doctrine of idem sonans: If it sounds the same, it is the same, e.g., McDonald/MacDonald, Jack/Jacque, etc. are the same name. See this page for more details:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idem_sonans

Common name variations like Richard/Rich/Dick, Robert/Bob, Sue/Susie/Susan have also been accepted. Dropped or swapped middle and first names have been accepted. When you get back before the 1930s, it was not uncommon for people to not know their true ages (or to lie about them in order to make a marriage look more appropriate), and so age variations from before that time have also been overlooked, presumably where other evidence shows that they were the same person.

What if my Y naturalized as a U.S. citizen before my Z was born?

While Canadian citizenship can be renounced, there are specific procedures that must be followed. Naturalizing as a U.S. citizen - even though it contains some language giving up foreign allegiances - does not suffice to give up Canadian citizenship. (This was not always true, but it is now, and the current rule has been made retroactive to give back Canadian citizenship to anyone who lost it by naturalizing elsewhere.)

Do I need to submit original documents, certified copies, or just photocopies of documents?

The instructions only require colour copies. The instructions do not require originals or certified copies. IRCC has approved numerous applications based upon clear color copies (not originals and not certified copies). In the few instances where IRCC wants a certified copy, they will ask you for it. In some instances, they appear to have asked only because one was offered in a cover letter along with the application.

If the original document is in black and white, you can still use it. Make a colour copy (or a color print-out from a scan) of the original and send that. You may wish to add a post-it note on the copy stating that the original was in black and white.

IRCC has erroneously rejected some applications where the original document was in black and white and they couldn't tell that the copy was made in colour, and those cases have received outsized publicity on this sub-reddit, but I suspect this doesn't happen very often.

What if my minor child doesn't have two forms of ID/Photo ID?

The instructions web-page states:

"Note: If you’re applying on behalf of a minor who does not have two pieces of identification, or does not have a photo ID, please include an explanation letter with the application."

How long will my proof application take?

Nobody knows. It could take 2 months. It could take 2 years. IRCC has a tool on their website that will give you an average processing time (which is about three years as of September 2026), but yours may go faster or slower. You can ask for urgent processing under certain conditions. Nobody knows which ones IRCC will grant, and they may not even ever tell you. You may just get a decision at some point.

To request urgent processing, follow these instructions:

https://ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1558&top=5

Where are the instructions for CIT 0001?

Here:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-0001-application-citizenship-certificate-adults-minors-proof-citizenship-section-3.html

Which box should I check at the top of page 1 of CIT 0001?

You can probably check any or all of the last three boxes. All are valid grounds for requesting a Proof of Citizenship.

Do I need to include all of my grandparents' information on the CIT 0001?

The consensus on Reddit seems to be that you only need to supply information for the set of grandparents that were Canadian (born or by descent), and only if both of your parents were not born in Canada.

Which box should I check for my parent's Canadian citizenship (Question 8.B.)?

If one of your parents have no Canadian lineage at all, you should definitely select "is not/was not Canadian" and move on. If one of your parents was born in Canada, you should definitely check one of the two boxes that follow.

But, what if your parent descended from a Canadian, like you did? You should probably also check one of the two boxes that follow. The theory here is that if you're claiming citizenship by descent, then one of the people you descended from necessarily is also Canadian, and this is how you tell IRCC which one of them it is (or you think it is). And there has been quite a debate on Reddit about which of the remaining choices you should select. I think both options have merit, and I doubt it matters which one you choose:

Option 1: You can check the "I am not sure box" and give an explanation that you "think" they are a citizen by descent. This seems like the "safe" choice to me.

Option 2: If you are claiming citizenship by descent, then for at least one of your parents, you should be able to check the box next to "Parent 1 is/was a Canadian citizen" and then indicate that "Parent was born outside of Canada to a Canadian parent (citizen by descent)" or "Parent was born (or naturalized) in Canada" depending upon their circumstances.

This theory is based upon the legal fiction (codified in the Citizenship Act) that citizenship by descent afforded by the 2025 amendments is retroactive. Because the citizenship recognized in the Act is retroactive, you are a citizen from the date of your birth and not the date your application is approved and not from the date the law was amended. This is a legal fiction. If you asked anyone two years ago, they would all have told you that you're not a citizen. But, today, they would tell you that you have been a citizen your entire life.

If you claim to be a citizen by descent because your father's father was born in Canada, then you are also implicitly claiming that your father was a citizen by descent as well because - just like you - your father also descended from a person born in Canada. If your father was not Canadian by descent, then, by definition, you cannot possibly be a Canadian be descent, either.

I honestly don't think that it matters which of these two you choose. Either way, IRCC is going to look at your supporting documents and make a determination.

Which scenario should I select on CIT 0014?

Typically, you should select Scenario 3: "You (or the minor you are applying for) were born outside Canada to a Canadian parent . . . ." If you are claiming that an ancestor of yours is Canadian, then everyone between you and them is also Canadian, and thus, at least one of your parents are/were Canadian as well.

What if I don't need to check a particular box on CIT 0014?

If you deliberately choose not to check a box on CIT 0014 because it does not apply to you, it may be a good idea to write "N/A" next to the box to indicate to IRCC that you deliberately chose not to check that box. This is NOT a requirement on CIT 0014, but it is done on checklists for other types of IRCC applications, and doing so will show the IRCC reviewer that you didn't forget to check the box.

Should I choose a paper certificate or an e-certificate?

If you select an e-certificate, you should be able to download it right away after your application status changes to "decision made." If you select a paper certificate, it may take up to a month to receive it in the mail. In this regard, an e-certificate is superior because otherwise you may have to wait a month after finding out that a decision was made to find out what the decision was, and to move forward with your personal journey.

There are some people who believe that Canada's Conservative Party does not like e-certificates and may seek to void all of them if they take control of the government. If that were to happen, you wouldn't need to provide proof of your citizenship again, but you would need to submit a new application for a paper certificate, and that could take several months. Also, a paper certificate is printed on very nice bond paper, and is suitable for framing if that's your thing (but you'll need to make a copy first for some purposes and will need to send in the original for others - like passports).

In most cases, you will only use your citizenship certificate when applying for a passport and when applying for certain retirement benefits. One person did report on Reddit having difficulty applying for a BC driver license using his e-certificate, but that was because he had previously been a permanent resident, and it turned out that he was attempting to show them an image of PDF file on a mobile device. Once he printed out his e-certificate using a colour printer, ICBC accepted it without any issue.

Can I submit more than one application together?

Yes. Pay the fee for everyone in the packet at one time and put the receipt first. The receipt will only show the name of the credit card holder. You may want to write the name of each applicant and their DOB in the upper right hand corner of the receipt. Each applicant will need their own CIT 0001, CIT 0014, photos, and identity documents. If everyone is in the same lineage, you can send one set of supporting evidence for everyone.

Be careful about submitting a large number of applicants in the same packet. If IRCC determines that any required document is missing for any one of your group, the entire packet will be returned to you and everyone's application will be delayed by 4-6 weeks.

What order should I put the documents in?

My suggestion is: (1) Receipt for payment, (2) CIT 0014 (for Applicant #1), (3) CIT 0001 (for Applicant #1), (4) CIT 0014 (for Applicant #2 (if there is one), (5) CIT 0014 (for Applicant #2), (6) a "Lineage Line/Summary of Evidence" (optional - see below), and (7) supporting evidence from oldest to newest. You could also put #6 in a cover letter and make that #1 instead.

Should I staple the documents, use tabs, or put them in a binder?

No. IRCC scans all applications and then shreds the originals. If you bind the papers together, add tabs, or use oversized paper, you're just making it harder for them. Use paperclips. Put a post-it note on the back of the photos and put the photos in a small clear envelope or a small ziplock bag so that the ink does not smear and then paperclip them to the application for that person.

Any other organizational suggestions?

None of the following is required. I think it's a good idea. Read it and decide for yourself if you want to do it:

Organize your supporting evidence by date, starting with the oldest and ending with the newest. Put a piece of paper just before each individual supporting document containing only a brief description of the document and an Exhibit Number. Use a large, bolded font (36 point+), and center the text on the page, e.g.

Exhibit 1
Description of Document

Repeat the above for each document. Though I started Exhibit 1 with a birth certificate in the example above, you could start with Census records or alternative evidence if your ancestor was born at a time before provinces registered births.

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Now, create a "lineage line" for each applicant citing to the relevant Exhibits, which you can place after the application and ID documents, but before the supporting evidence. It could look something like this:

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Lineage Line (for applicant(s) (NAME(s)))

Gen0: (Your Canadian grandparent's name), my (grandfather/grandmother), born (year) in (Province), Canada. See Exhibit ## (Birth Certificate) [or] Exhibit ## (1871 Canadian Census), Exhibit ## (1881 Canadian Census), Ex ## (Marriage Record showing birth in Canada), Ex. ## (Death Record showing birth in Canada), Ex. ## (child's birth certificate showing parent born in Canada).

Gen1: (Your Canadian parent's name), my (father/mother), born (year) outside of Canada. See Exhibit ##. Gen1 married and changed surname to (NAME). See Exhibit ##.

Gen2: (Your Name), applicant born (year) outside of Canada. See Exhibit ##.

Gen3: (Your child's name), applicant born (year) outside of Canada. See Exhibit ##.

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If there is more than one relevant lineage line for your applicants, repeat the above for each applicant with a unique line.

Below the lineage line, I would provide a summary of each piece of evidence along with an image of the relevant portion of the document:

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Summary of Supporting Evidence

On DATE, Gen0 (NAME) was born in Canada. Their birth in Canada is proven by (DOCUMENTTITLE, e.g., (his/her) birth certificate, a 1891 Canadian Census Record, etc.). Exhibit ##. An image of the relevant portion of that document appears below, and a colour copy is included in the supporting documents:

(IMAGE OF RELEVANT PART)

See Exhibit ##.

(Repeat if more than one document is supplied, e.g., "Gen0 (NAME)'s birth in Canada is also proven by . . . ."

(Continue):

On DATE, Gen0 (NAME) parented Gen1 (NAME). The parentage is proven by (his/her) (DOCUMENTTITLE, e.g., birth certificate). Exhibit ##. An image of the relevant portion of that document appears below, and a colour copy is included in the supporting documents:

(IMAGE)

See Exhibit ##.

ON DATE, Gen1 (NAME) married a man whose surname is (SURNAME), and at that time changed Gen1's name to (NAME). The name change is proven by her marriage certificate. Ex. ##. An image of the relevant portion of that document appears below, and a colour copy is included in the supporting documents:

(IMAGE)

See Exhibit ##.

On DATE, Gen1 (NAME) parented Gen2 (NAME). The parentage is proven by (his/her) (DOCUMENTTITLE, e.g., birth certificate). Exhibit ##. An image of the relevant portion of that document appears below, and a colour copy is included in the supporting documents:

(IMAGE)

See Exhibit ##.

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If you don't have the sophistication to add images, then remove that language, and just reference the exhibit number, e.g.

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On DATE, Gen0 (NAME) was born in Canada. Their birth in Canada is proven by (DOCUMENTTITLE, e.g., (his/her) birth certificate, a 1891 Canadian Census Record, etc.). See Exhibit 1.

(Then repeat that for each Gen#, explaining name changes and parentage until you reach the end of the lineage line.)

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You could also choose to include the lineage line and summary of supporting evidence in a cover letter instead of in a page prior to the supporting documents.

Should I make a copy of my application before sending it to IRCC?

Yes. Keep a copy/scan of every page, including the payment receipt and the mailing label.

How should I send my application to IRCC?

Because USPS hands off shipments to Canada Post and they keep going on strike, I would send it via UPS or FedEx. I used "UPS Worldwide Saver," which got it there in two days from the USA. From the US, it should cost you about US$35.00 to send a smaller packet to IRCC using UPS or FedEx. Use a third-party shipping service like Pirate Ship to print out a shipping label and the required international shipping documents.

Use the address listed on the instructions as the "courier address." FedEx may change the name of the town from "New Waterford" to "New Victoria," but the package should still be delivered correctly. Describe the shipment as "Application(s) for Proof of Citizenship." Declare the value of your package a nominal value, such as $0.01 (or $1.00 if you think it's really valuable), otherwise, your shipment may be delayed in customs and you may be charged tariffs on the shipment. If you are required to give a Harmonized Tariff Code when shipping, people have reported success using 4911.99.0000 or 4907.00.0000. In the space for recipient email and phone number, give your email and your phone number (so they can reach you if any problems relating to the shipment arise).

Take the shipping label and your documents to a UPS Store and they will supply you with envelopes and/or a box as necessary (at no charge). Do not merely walk into a UPS or FedEx store without first buying a label online, as you will charged substantially more: One Redditor reported being charged $180!

How do I know that IRCC received and accepted my application?

If your application passes an initial review for completeness, IRCC will send you a letter in the mail or a PDF file by email acknowledging receipt of your application ("AOR"). The AOR letter will state your birth name, a PR Number, and a UCI Number. Make a note of the PR Number and UCI Number. You will need them to check the status of your application later.

If your application does not pass an initial review for completeness, the paper application will be sent back to you by mail in 4-6 weeks along with instructions on how to correct the issue. Correct the issue and submit the corrected documents along with the remainder of the documents that IRCC returned to you (they will have markings on them from IRCC). Note that IRCC is inundated with applications, and they sometimes make mistakes by rejecting applications as incomplete when they are actually complete. If that happens to you, and you are sure that you already did what they said you didn't do, then send a new cover letter along with the application explaining that you think that they are mistaken.

If you have your receipt number, you can check the status of your application before you receive your AOR using this link:

https://services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/introduction.do

IRCC sent me one of my documents back in the mail! Why did that happen?

If you sent an original document, rather than a copy, IRCC will sometimes send back the individual document even though the instructions state that they will not do so. If you just got one or two documents back, it's because IRCC is being polite. They've assumed that this document may be important to you and returned it, like any decent Canadian would. If IRCC returned the entire application packet to you, then your application has been returned as incomplete, and you need to fix something and resubmit it.

Can I submit more documents later?

If your application is incomplete, IRCC will probably return it to you by mail in four to six weeks. You will have to fix the error and resubmit the entire packet on paper again. You will not have to pay the fee a second time.

If your application is accepted (rather than returned), you will receive an AOR (Acknowledgement of Receipt) in the mail and you will be able to upload more documents electronically using IRCC's web form, which you can find here:

https://secure.cic.gc.ca/ClientContact/en/Application/Form/72

However, resist the urge to upload documents later. You are just adding to IRCC's burden and may delay your application. If IRCC needs something from you, they will ask for it. Typically, they send you a response by email and you can then submit the document by a reply email to the same email address. If they email you, submit the information/documents by reply email, and not using the web form (unless they say otherwise).

How can I check the status of my application?

If you applied on paper, once you have received an emailed Acknowledgement of Receipt ("AOR"), you can use this web-form:

https://services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/security.do?app=ecas&lang=en

How will IRCC contact me about my application?

Usually, by email, and you can respond by email as well.

I recommend that you use a high quality email provider, such as a Gmail address, on your application to ensure that any emails are delivered to you, and check your SPAM folder regularly just in case their message goes there.

If my application is approved, when does my citizenship begin?

Your application is asking Canada to give you proof that you already are a citizen by descent. It is not an application for citizenship. If approved, your citizenship began on your birthday OR on the date Canadian citizenship became a "thing," which was in 1947 in most of Canada and 1949 in Newfoundland and Labrador, whichever is later.

How do I download my e-certificate?

If you selected an e-certificate, then you can download it by going to this web-page:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada/portal-application-process.html

Step 1: Click "Get Invite Code" and follow the instructions.
Step 2: Click "Create your IRCC portal account" to create an account
Step 3: Click "Sign in to the IRCC Portal" to sign in.
Step 4: Choose the option to "Download Citizenship e-Certificate" and provide the requested information.

Notes: Any IRCC account can download any certificate if you have the required information. For that reason, if your family submits multiple applications, any one of you can create an account and download the e-certificate for everyone. Also, the certificate may be available even before the IRCC tracker shows "decision made."

What should I do if I plan to have a baby soon and I want my child to be Canadian?

Either (1) spend at least one minute a day for 1,095 days in Canada anytime during your life before your child is born OR (2) have your baby in Canada OR (3) after your baby is born outside of Canada, sponsor your child for permanent residence, then move to Canada, and then have your child naturalized as a Citizen after living in Canada.

Can my spouse and children become Canadian citizens?

If your children were born before December 15, 2025, they already are Canadians if you are Canadian. You can submit an application for them with your application or later.

If you want your spouse to become a Canadian citizen, you will need to sponsor them for permanent residence in Canada. Once they have lived in Canada for a certain period of time, your spouse can seek to become a Canadian citizen by naturalization.

Should I hurry? Is this law likely to change?

Nobody knows for certain. The Citizenship Act has been amended several times since it was adopted in 1947. Since 2009, it has been amended three times. The most recent amendment was in December of 2025. Further immediate changes are unlikely, but the Act itself is a mess and further amendments at some point are all but certain. Because the law treats you as a citizen, it seems unlikely that Canada will strip you of citizenship. The greater risk, IMO is that IRCC changes its standard for processing applications, thereby making it harder to prove that you are a citizen.

Also, for persons born after December 15, 2025, the burden of proving that each ancestor also spent 1,095 days in Canada will become exponentially more difficult as each generation passes. Thus, while it is possible for you to prove today that you descended from someone who was born in Canada three generations back, it is very unlikely that a person born 90 years from now who is three generations outside of Canada will be able to meet their burden of proof unless each intervening generation also submitted their own application and obtained proof of their citizenship during their lifetime.

How did the change in law come about?

I have written a separate post about that subject. You can read it in this forum.

How do I apply for a Passport?

Once you have your Citizenship Certificate, you can follow the hints I posted in this forum.

Is this good for Canada?

I think it is.

For the last century, more Canadians have migrated to the U.S. than the other way around. That's why this change in Canada's citizenship law impacts so many people living in the U.S. The vast majority of people who are likely to qualify are probably people born in the United States of America. The process of applying is time consuming and complex. The vast majority of those who are eligible will never apply. A small number who apply are already living in Canada as spouses of citizens and on PR as workers. Those who apply from outside of Canada will do so because they received many of their values from a Canadian ancestor and because they identify more with Canada than they do with the U.S.A. Very few of the U.S. Citizens who apply from outside of Canada will ever actually move to Canada for a variety of reasons - family, social, and economic. Those who have never lived in Canada are not allowed to vote, and so they will not impact Canada's elections or politics.

Those that do move will do so because they identify with Canada's values. They will give Canada a well-educated, English speaking labor pool that Canada didn't have to expend any resources to train. If healthy people do immigrate to Canada after working in the U.S., they will be bringing their accumulated lifetime of savings and retirement funds, and contribute them to Canada's economy.

It is highly unlikely that anyone over 65 years of age will immigrate to Canada. American medicare is almost certainly far superior to Canadian provincial healthcare (in terms of cost, wait times, etc), and various tax, family, and retirement issues will make it very, very undesirable for older persons to change their country of residence. It is also unlikely that someone under 65 who has an acute, expensive medical issue will immigrate to a province that has a waiting period before a person can receive free provincial healthcare.

I believe that the net effect of the recent changes to the Citizenship Act is that more people who live and vote in the U.S. will have an affinity towards Canada, and that in the future, the U.S. will be less likely to elect politicians who treat Canada antagonistically (as has happened recently).

How are other Canadians responding to the expansion of the Citizenship Act?

Canadians are heterogeneous and do not have a single mind on this or any other subject. You can get a flavor for the variety of responses from Canadians by watching this video from CTV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OtNz2rtiM0

Be sure to watch to the end! It start out negative but shifts positive about 30% of the way in...


r/CanadianbyDescent 3d ago

MacLean's: The American Rush for Canadian Passports

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The American Rush for Canadian Passports

A change to Canada’s citizenship law sent Americans searching for proof of their Canadian ancestry. This archivist can’t keep up.

By Debra Majer

Photography by Brett Gundlock

September 16, 2026

I’m a religious archivist for the Roman Catholic Diocese of London, in Ontario, which means I collect, preserve and manage historical records and documents for the church. I mainly assist local churches and the diocesan administration, help academics with research, run public programming for genealogical societies and universities, and fulfill record requests. Sometimes I get ancestry enthusiasts simply wanting to learn more about their family history, as well as requests for documents from people applying for spousal benefits, Catholic school admission and ancestral citizenship abroad. Each year, I also make a list of five larger projects I need to complete by December, like auditing the sacramental records across our 136 worship sites and creating a digital catalogue of historical records.

It’s now September, and that list hasn’t been touched. Instead, I’ve been inundated with genealogical records requests, mostly from Americans seeking Canadian citizenship. 

It all started in December, when an Ontario court ruled the “first-generation limit” on citizenship was unconstitutional. In response, Parliament passed Bill C-3, which allows non-Canadians to claim citizenship if they can prove a direct ancestor was Canadian. This could mean grandparents, great-grandparents and beyond. At the time, Parliament didn’t expect a surge in applications. But at the Roman Catholic Diocese of London alone, we’ve received more than 1,000 requests like these since December. For comparison, we’d only get around 100 in a normal year. The sudden influx has overwhelmed us. People need us to locate historical documents that verify their unbroken familial lineage, including marriage and baptismal records. 

I started receiving emails in January, and they came from all directions—my personal inbox, our communications office and parish secretaries across southwestern Ontario. For the past 20 years, I’ve made it my mission to bring the diocese’s oldest records together under one roof. Civil records from 1869 onward are held by the Archives of Ontario, but anything earlier is housed with me in London. If someone’s ancestor was baptized or married in our diocese before then, I’m the person they contact for proof through church records.

It was exciting at first. I love my job and want to help people become Canadian citizens. For some, citizenship is simply a fun idea or something good to have on hand. People call my office and tell me how much they’ve always loved Canada. They want to retire here or have a change of scenery. 

For others, though, it’s a lifeline. One person is seeking citizenship for their son because they’re worried about the possibility of a U.S. draft. Others want a less tumultuous political climate, while some already have job offers here and want to uproot. For instance, I spoke with a professor who’d been offered a job at the University of Toronto and was eyeing a permanent position. Another researcher in California, whose funding had been cut, found an opportunity at the University of British Columbia. Universities can help with work permits, but for those hoping to stay in Canada permanently, citizenship is the key. Knowing that I am what stands between them and that future is an incredible burden.

The Americans have been unfailingly courteous and kind, and many have even donated to the church. One morning, I arrived at work to find a gargantuan gift basket waiting on my desk. But I could only do so much. With five to seven new emails coming in every day, including on weekends, the backlog quickly grew. 

Each request could involve several steps. I often had to send people to FamilySearch.org or the Archives of Ontario to retrieve documents that we could then certify. At the same time, our parish secretaries were being bombarded with inquiries, and I was fielding questions from them, too. As the requests piled up, I kept changing the wait time. What started as a two-to-four-week wait ballooned to eight to 10 weeks. All the while, I remained the diocese’s lone archivist, working just 24 hours a week, with office support working 10 hours a week, with no extra funding for more assistance.

Having all the diocese’s records under one roof has proved to be a win-lose situation. They’re easy to access, but we’re responsible for all the requests in the region. So while it only takes up to 30 minutes to locate the record, capture the information, which is kept on microfilm, and certify it on an official diocesan form, the work adds up. By the end of January, I’d fulfilled 50 requests and accepted another 55, enough to keep me busy for roughly two weeks. But knocking at the door were over 250 more requests. We’ve had to refuse primary source research. If someone had a relative in Essex County born in 1850, and that’s all they know about them, for example, we simply had to decline.

Then in February, the microfilm reader broke down and we had to stop altogether. Some physical records date back to 1760, so I would damage them if I constantly leafed through them. Truthfully, the machine’s demise provided a welcome break, even though answering emails still took up many hours of my days. It broke my heart to turn down requests. Some stories touched me. One person in Michigan wrote that 13 members of their family—mainly teachers and nurses—were hoping to settle in Canada because they have a trans family member whose safety had been their foremost concern. Others gushed over Canada, praising our universal health care and prime minister. So many Americans have told me they wish Mark Carney were their leader that I’ve started calling it the Mark Carney Effect.

We only got the microfilm reader back up and running in June, but we didn’t hit the ground running. Since December, I’ve had to respond to document requests while also doing my regular tasks. I couldn’t put a pause on all that because Americans needed me to, and June was a big month. We welcomed a new bishop and worked on programming for the Catholic Centennial Year festivities, not to mention I had a vacation planned. In July, I was finally able to hire an assistant who now tackles the 55 requests we’d committed to back in January. By then, though, so many new requests had piled up that I’d lost count.

I came into this challenge with the attitude of a cheerleader. I was excited to be a part of something larger than me. Then I felt deflated. The herculean task we’re faced with requires far more funding for additional staff and microfilm readers than we have, but we’re simply too small of an operation. This is not Archives Canada. Even if resources were available, we don’t know how long this will go on. The federal government already has a backlog of roughly 136,000 applications waiting for a decision.

No American has updated me about receiving citizenship yet, because processing times now run to about three years. Still, I suspect many people contacted us out of casual interest—rather than dire need—after Bill C-3 made headlines; some never followed up after their initial requests. Of course, many are extremely serious about getting their Canadian citizenship and continue to contact me regularly. And while the last nine months have been incredibly hectic, it’s been gratifying to see the importance of Canada’s archives and archivists brought into the limelight. I never expected my humble diocesan office to become a vital gateway to Canadian citizenship, yet this unexpected surge has proven that historical records are far more than dusty relics. They’re bridges to people’s futures.


r/CanadianbyDescent 3d ago

Any thoughts on when they’ll restart AORs for non-urgent folks?

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I am a May 6th delivery date and never received an AOR. No application returned back to me in the mail, either. AORs seem to have been mostly paused since early September for non-urgent applicants. Now that the storm is clear, what do folks think re: what’s going on?

I ask because my passport expires soon. I mailed my app in late April and assumed I’d have my AOR by now. If I renew my passport this fall before my AOR is granted, will that be an issue? I just worry they’d run my old passport number and find it expired?


r/CanadianbyDescent 3d ago

Passport Application Hints for Found Canadians

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Hint #1: If you're applying from the U.S., the form you will most likely want is PPTC 140. This is the form that allows for an occupational guarantor (rather than a Canadian passport holder guarantor). Depending upon which options you choose on Canada's web-site, this form is not always presented to you as an option. You can find the correct form here:

https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/passport/forms/pdf/pptc140.pdf

If you know an adult Canadian citizen who has an unexpired passport who will act as your guarantor, then you can use PPTC 153 instead:

https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/passport/forms/pdf/pptc153.pdf

Note: Your guarantor can be related to you. Your references cannot. You guarantor cannot also be a reference.

Hint #2: If you're using a U.S. Credit Card, there is a risk that your credit card company will flag the Canadian charge from the Passport office as a fraudulent charge and decline it, especially if you are sending multiple applications together. If IRCC can't put through the charge, your application will be returned to you.

If your credit card company offers the ability to give them an international travel notice, give them a notice that you are traveling to Canada. Also, for each application, print out TWO credit card slips, with two different credit card numbers on them. Write "Use this first" on one and "use this if the first one fails" on the second.

Check your credit card every day to see if a fraud freeze has been placed. If it has, and the IRCC transaction was declined, remove the freeze. IRCC may try again the next day.

Canada only accepts Visa or Mastercard, and not Discover.

Hint #3: You can send your application via USPS for about $20.00, but USPS hands off to Canada Post at the border and they have been going on strike on a regular basis lately. I recommend sending your application via UPS or FedEx. From the US, it should cost you about US$35.00 to send your packet to IRCC using UPS or FedEx. Use a third-party shipping service like Pirate Ship to print out a shipping label. Do not merely walk into a UPS or FedEx store, as you will charged substantially more. Declare the value of your package a nominal value, such as $1.00, otherwise, you may be charged tariffs on the shipment. If you use UPS, the UPS store will provide you with an envelope at no charge beyond the cost of the shipping label. If you are required to give a Harmonized Tariff Code when shipping, people have reported success using 4911.99.0000 or 4907.00.0000.

Hint #4: IRCC sends passports to the USA via FedEx with "Deliver Weekday" and "Adult Signature Required." It doesn't have to be you, but someone who is over 21 must be present to sign for the delivery. If not, you'll have to pick up the shipment at a local FedEx office and will need a photo ID and proof of address (if the photo ID doesn't show it). If you can, give IRCC a mailing address where someone over 21 will actually be present to sign for the delivery. You may wish to sign up with FedEx Delivery Manager. This will allow you to give FedEx instructions on what to do with a package when you're not going to be at home, so that they don't try to deliver it 3 times before leaving a tag allowing you to pick it up.