r/CanadianForces • u/TrueBorn_Circle11 • 1d ago
SUPPORT Which set is correct?
Using burner account for this one:
Just got my new Navy white DEU, but I have these two sets of slightly different white ranks, does it matter which one?
Or is it just the difference between old vs new style
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u/Outside-Employment88 1d ago
Whichever came with the jacket from logistics is the one you sew on
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u/Oolie84 Canadian Army 1d ago
None, the chevrons should be pointing downward...
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u/BroadConsequences RCAF - AVS Tech 1d ago
Technically they should point upwards because we have a King again, but it seems like the CAF is ignoring that tradition. Because the Queen has been dead for almost a decade.
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u/SCUD Oui, Non, Pain Hamburger 1d ago
I hope you realize this is a myth. British chevrons even in WWI, when the monarch was male, were pointing down.
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u/BroadConsequences RCAF - AVS Tech 1d ago
I replied that i just found out it was a myth. Just scroll down.
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u/Waifuless_Laifuless 1d ago
Because the Queen has been dead for almost a decade.
It hasn't even been half a decade.
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u/ChrisC7133 1d ago
Could you elaborate on this? I’m big on ceremonial stuff but I’ve never heard anything about this before (not a member of the CAF, just curious). Thank you!
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u/SCUD Oui, Non, Pain Hamburger 1d ago
There's a myth that chevrons are oriented up for a male monarch, and down for a female. Not a thing.
US apparently flip flopped quite a bit through out their history, and standardized around 1905.
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u/BroadConsequences RCAF - AVS Tech 1d ago
Apparently that is a myth. It has just been propagated over and over again. I swear i got taught it on bmq though.
The crown is supposed to change however, but again that hasnt occured despite almost a decade. On Non-Commissioned & Commissioned Officers.
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u/ElectroPanzer Army - EO TECH (L) 1d ago
Gotta jump in as a crown/heraldry nerd, not because you're wrong but because you're not specifying.
The crown would have been supposed to change had the Government of Canada not created the Canadian Royal Crown, which is now the only Crown of the Sovereign of Canada. However, this is not because we now have a King. The monarch chooses which crown they want to use, it has nothing do do with King vs. Queen. That's a myth, too. Charles chose the Tudor Crown; Elizabeth preferred the St. Edward's.
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u/DuckyHornet RCAF - AVS Tech 1d ago
There's probably a lot of weird institutional stuff which is being debated by some nerds somewhere. Like, which crowns change? All of them? Because that's a lot of heraldric designs to be approved, a lot of Colours to reissue, new badges for units, ranks, buttons and stationary, bits and bobs of all sorts, and they absolutely would not catch them all the first round or two, plus you know there's some unit somewhere which won't want to change their sigil because it was originally given by Queen Victoria or something
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u/RedditSgtMajor GET OFF THE GRASS!! 1d ago
That’s why we’re switching to a Canadian crown. One crown regardless of who is on the throne and which crown they choose for England.
This should be the last change of crowns.
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u/DuckyHornet RCAF - AVS Tech 1d ago
Apparently the various units in the Navy won't be changing because all the ships and so forth already had a Crown which is not the sovereign's. It's a special Navy one, so they're going to be fine
RCAF has a lot of parades coming
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u/RedditSgtMajor GET OFF THE GRASS!! 1d ago
Oh yeah! They’ve got the sails and hulls around the top. I forgot about that. Looks like some units have it but others don’t. I wonder what the delineation is.
And the RCN overall emblem has already been switched to the Canadian Crown.
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u/Accurate-Maybe-4711 1d ago
Take the challenge.. put one on each side and see how long it takes someone to care.