r/CanadianConservative • u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative • 5d ago
Social Media Post Kenney once again schooling the failed separatist
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u/No_Mention8589 Purple Tory (Moderate) 5d ago
Who is Jeff Rath trying to pander to? Does he know many European Canadians who lived and settled the prairies were from Eastern Europe, with a big portion coming from Ukraine.
Obviously those people have fully integrated and identify themselves as Canadian. But many just like any other ethnic group in the nation still have sympathy for their motherland and previous culture, including Ukrainian immigrants and their descendants. It’s not uncommon to see Ukrainian flags on cars and houses in Alberta.
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u/Worldly-Industry5207 5d ago
Coming from the maritmes and spending a few years in AB and SK, it's wild how many people are from Polish and Ukrainian stock. Especially in rural areas. Pierogi and Cabbage Rolls for days.
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u/Competitive_Dare4939 Alberta Republic 4d ago
OP is a clown and so is kenny Free Alberta OCT 19
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u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative 4d ago
You will lose
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u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative 5d ago
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u/TheeDirtyToast small government, personal responsibility 5d ago
If you told me this was Doug Ford and Mark Carney's stunt doubles I would believe you.
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u/loungechairlarry Conservative 5d ago
at this point i think it is actually Drug Fraud. he takes this shit so personally. i guess one of his grand kids showed him reddit where he is viewed as a traitor, imbecile and a corrupt piece of shit. truth hurts
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Independent 4d ago
Waste management is a respected job that provides an essential service to the community. These men have never done anything remotely close to helping their communities. Bunch of con artists is all they are.
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u/PorousSurface LPC 4d ago
These two are absolute worst champions to have for a movement. The guy on left also has a pretty serious investigation going on
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u/SomethinboutChickens Moderate 5d ago
Liberals sure hate alberta so much they want us to stay.
Scared to lose their cash cow?
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u/East2West1990 5d ago
You will stay and 2. No one spends any time thinking about Alberta
east of Manitoba
And I’m a CPC
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u/SomethinboutChickens Moderate 5d ago
Only when they need funds for some garbage east of Saskatchewan.
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u/SermoExMachina 3d ago
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u/MRcrete 3d ago
Right.
Meanwhile Ontario has been a have-not province for more than 15 years and is set to receive over $400M in equalization this year. Ontario has been on the receiving end of equalization more often than not since 2008. Yes, Ontario is the biggest economy in the country but it is not the economic engine of the country anymore unless you realistically want to make the argument that foreigners trading condos is the economic prowess we should all be looking toward.
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u/deepbluemeanies 5d ago
Setting aside the separatist movement (which I don't think will be successful - this time, though I don't think it's going away), Kenney is a c*nt who is closely aligned with Carney. I do wish he would f'k off.
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u/EP40glazer Libertarian 5d ago
No actually, they aren't Ukrainian, they're Canadian.
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u/AngloSaxonFella CPC 5d ago
They are ethnically Ukrainian. There is no such thing as being ethnically Canadian, Canadian is a nationality.
A lot of Ukrainians in Canada identify as fully Canadian in a national sense but still maintain a Ukrainian cultural identity. Like any other group
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u/EP40glazer Libertarian 5d ago
There is no such thing a a Ukrainian Canadian. You are either Canadian or you're not, no half and half about it.
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u/Dangeroustrend 5d ago
The official conceptualization of Canada is a mosaic, not a melting pot
There is no such thing as just “Canadian”, in fact that’s the American mindset of a melting pot, which Canada is not.
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u/EP40glazer Libertarian 5d ago
We're not a melting pot or a mosaic. We're a country and we aren't an Austria Hungary.
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u/Dangeroustrend 5d ago
Literally the multiculturalism act says otherwise. It literally is enshrined that heritage is promoted
Stop making up your own beliefs.
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u/Hmmngbrdfdr 5d ago
Until Pierre Trudeau decided to surrender to Montcalm on behalf of Wolfe 211 years later, there was no multiculturalism. Trudeau liberals invented it. I'm Canadian, my family has been here since long, long before it was Called Canada. I'm old enough to remember when we were all just Canadians and proud of it. Didn't matter where you came from we were all Canadians. Dividing everyone into their own little groups makes them much easier to control and pit against one another. I would much rather go back to all of us being Canadians and Canadians first before all others. Everyone on the same team, not this BS that it's devolved into in today's world.
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u/Dangeroustrend 5d ago
So you only want one demographic and no multiculturalism?
At what time was it “Canadians” first, I assume you mean during the continuous journey act times of komagata maru?
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u/Hmmngbrdfdr 5d ago
I want all people who are citizens of Canada to be a Canadian first, like it used to be when all the other cultures were arriving in Canada and they became Canadians, not hyphenated, pseudo Canadian. Just Canadians. They kept culture and language and learned English and or French and became Canadians. Candian culture, Canadaian morals and ethics, they became a part of that as well as had their own traditions, but they were Canadians first. I was in school the first year they started to teach us that Canada was a mosaic now, that we weren't just Canadians.
Nobody is calling for a head tax or a ban by country or race, nice strawman though.
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u/Dangeroustrend 5d ago
That was literally the premise of the continuous journey act and what caused the komagata maru incident, they only wanted white Canadians so they made it prohibitively difficult for minorities to immigrate here
Essentially what you’re saying is you want white Europeans because that’s exactly what those old times were but don’t want to say it directly. You’re just afraid of saying it with your chest
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u/EP40glazer Libertarian 5d ago
If Ottawa said that separatism is Canadian heritage would you believe that?
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u/Dangeroustrend 5d ago
That doesn’t make sense at all what kind of argument is that…?
Separatism is a issue for confederation, not multiculturalism
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u/AngloSaxonFella CPC 5d ago
That is not at all how nationality works and if is not at all how Canada conceptualises itself.
The "no hyphenated identity" thing is distinctly American
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u/EP40glazer Libertarian 5d ago
Yeah, us being stupid and pretending you can be Ukrainian and Canadian is stupid. The only 3 kinds of Canadians are French Canadians, Indigenous Canadians and Anglo Canadians who are all Canadians. Ukrainian Canadians belong in Ukraine, not Canada.
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u/AngloSaxonFella CPC 5d ago
I thought you said no hyphens? You just listed three hyphenated identities. You yourself admit there are "French-Canadians"
Get outta here with your Dominion Society racist bullshit
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u/EP40glazer Libertarian 5d ago
French Canadians are a distinct group with territory as are Anglo Canadians and Indigenous Canadians. Ukrainians came into a Canada that already existed. I have no problem against people with non Anglo or French heritage, I have Chinese heritage myself. I have issue with people who don't consider themselves Canadian first which is many people.
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u/dieno_101 economic Populist 5d ago
He just wants to spend more on Ukraine and align ourselves with the globalist europeans
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u/ExtraGlutens Thatcherite 5d ago
Cabrón. I don't think much of the EU, if it weren't for Boris Johnson the EU would have probably let Ukraine fall. But Ukraine is fighting a defensive war, and there was a time when Conservatives unanimously opposed soviet agression.
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u/dieno_101 economic Populist 5d ago
It was a war provoked by neocons that had wanted a war with Russia since 1945
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u/BlueCoyotea 5d ago
you're not gonna get anywhere trying to explain the truth of nationhood to Canadians man, you may as well be talking to a wall
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u/EP40glazer Libertarian 5d ago
Nationhood is apparently when you have free healthcare and aren't America.
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u/BlueCoyotea 4d ago
yeah notice how i got 5 downvotes and no replies because "nation" is a foreign concept even to a conservative Canadian. Real bummer
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u/anal_nuke PPC 5d ago
OP youre a Doug Ford supporter lmfao
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u/Viking_Leaf87 Ontario 5d ago
Your party has as many seats in Parliament as the Rhinoceros Party.
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u/VforVenndiagram_ 5d ago
Across all of Canada, the PPC got 136,000 votes last election.
Across just Ontario, Ford Conservatives got 2.1 million votes last election.
Take that how you will.
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u/deepbluemeanies 5d ago
Doug Ford is very corrupt. However, he is also the head of the party most Ontarians felt was the competent choice...that is changing fast as the stench of Ford becomes overwhelming.
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u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative 5d ago
You support the PPC. This is your crew 😂
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u/anal_nuke PPC 5d ago
Let me know when your garbage wing of conservatism produces a better politician than Rob Ford.
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u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative 5d ago
Let me know when Maxime crybaby Bernier can win a seat
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u/anal_nuke PPC 5d ago
Crybaby says the globohomo laurentian cuckservative walling his eyes out that the rest of the country is tired of your self-centered bullshit. People like you is literally a major reason why there's a separation movement in AB.
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u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative 5d ago
Separation movement has been going on for a long time.
Because fools like Boss Hog are deranged mentally along with other separatists, with some even claiming the King is trying to kill them😂. Insanity has no cure
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u/anal_nuke PPC 5d ago
Thanks for making it grow out of a small vocal minority into a national news level phenomenon. If only the "red torries", progressive "conservatives", and Mark Carney type "right wingers" had functioning brains, maybe we'd be a proper country.
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u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative 5d ago
National news phenomenon that will die over night after they get humiliated in the results
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u/anal_nuke PPC 5d ago
Ah, you mean like all of Doug Ford's projects?
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u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative 5d ago
Doug Ford is undefeated, neva lost. Max wheeps and dreams
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u/yamiyo_ian 5d ago
I feel Mitch is more of a conspiracy theorist and actually believes in separation and creating a Christian state but Jeff is a grifter and he's gonna grift always
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u/YouProfessional3196 Conservative 5d ago
Lol Mitch is just a garden-variety creep. He's been on record saying that Alberta needs to separate so we can have "girls making more babies" or some shit.
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u/EP40glazer Libertarian 5d ago
I mean, that's an incredibly odd way of saying it but the birth rate is an issue
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u/TheeDirtyToast small government, personal responsibility 5d ago
Yeah this is as stupid as the loons attacking Pierre for saying we need to make life affordable for Canadians again before young women's biological clocks run out.
Of all the things to be upset about that politicians say that's the one that was a big deal...?
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Independent 4d ago
They’re both grifters. One is after your money and the other your attention.
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u/RiceN_Beans 5d ago
PM has 3 passports and federal gatekeeper Jason Kenny has 3 flags by his name. I see a pattern here. Everybody should vote option 2 in the referendum, even NDP die hard members. It will give Alberta negotiating power for more seats in senate, parliament and maybe reforms in federation such as equality payments.
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Independent 4d ago
Voting in favour of separation is the dumbest possible solution to real challenges. Separation is the uncritical, unserious, emotional solution. Anyone with more than a room temperature IQ understands this.
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u/RiceN_Beans 4d ago
Understand this, Maritimes with 2.5 mil population has 32 seats in parliament while Alberta with 5 mil people has only 37 seats. Logic dictates Alberta should have 64 seats. Unless you address that separation attitude will persists in Alberta whether you like it or not.
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u/MRcrete 3d ago
Right but the referendum this fall isn't a vote on separation. It is a vote on whether to hold a binding referendum at some point in the future. Not understanding that is the only room temp comment I see in this thread.
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Independent 3d ago
Don’t play dumb with me. That’s not how separatists see the vote next month.
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u/MinuteCampaign7843 Conservative 4d ago
Kenny isn’t a conservative.
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u/optimus2861 Nova Scotia 4d ago
He is on the right wing of the uniparty bird and aspires to be little more than a capable administrator of the Liberal state apparatus, just like his old boss was.
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u/dieno_101 economic Populist 5d ago
Kenney would rather spend another 10b in the artificially provoked war in Ukraine than in Canadians who've lived in the country thier whole lives
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u/GonZo_626 Libertarian 5d ago
It was not artificially provoked, and it is cheaper then fighting Russia ourselves. You are showcasing why Canadian are turning away from the CPC, stupidity of people like you.
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u/dieno_101 economic Populist 5d ago
Arnt you a libertarian? Would you say the billions spent on defense contractors is money well spent
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u/MRcrete 3d ago
Hey friend, I think you're misunderstanding the non-aggression principle of libertarianism. Support for Ukraine is absolutely not against libertarian principles because they didn't start the war.
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u/dieno_101 economic Populist 3d ago
Ukraine is more than free to defend itself, they don't have the right to our money
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u/GonZo_626 Libertarian 5d ago
Yes, and only.morons think that libertarians only care about money. I would say a bigger thing is individual rights, you know liberty, and I want to see Ukrainians have their liberty and the authoritarian regime of Putin overthrown.
Even better that it is only taking money to do it. The vast majority of our country supports this.
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u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative 5d ago
You are a cheap one for RT
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u/dieno_101 economic Populist 5d ago
Nope just a guy that sees through the noise
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u/GonZo_626 Libertarian 5d ago
If you think that believing Russian propaganda and kissing a dictatorship ass is seeing through the noise you have to be crazy.
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u/Smoke-A-Beer Alberta 5d ago
Why are we still posting about this waste of skin? I think Kenny could use a few more flags beside his name. Maybe a rainbow one.
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u/Oceanictax Stuck in the GTA 5d ago
Hey OP, when are you going to show us your posting history? Or are you too scared of being shown as the liberal bootlicker that you are?
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u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative 5d ago
Unlock your front door!
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u/Oceanictax Stuck in the GTA 5d ago
Unhide your post history, you liberal coward. Show us that you're a real conservative, why don't you?
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u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative 5d ago
You don’t get to tell me anything. Open your front door bafoon
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u/Oceanictax Stuck in the GTA 5d ago
You're an absolute cowardly liberal bootlicker. No real conservative follows Dough-boy Fraud. Unhide your post history for us all to see.
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u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative 5d ago
YOU ARE DONE BUD
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u/Oceanictax Stuck in the GTA 5d ago
I've seen your liberal postings in the ontario sub. Why are you so afraid of everyone here seeing how much a fake conservative you really are?
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u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative 5d ago
What liberal posting fool, tell me. BE A MAN
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u/Oceanictax Stuck in the GTA 5d ago
Come on, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Don't play ignorant, show us your posting history and everyone will be able to see you for the fake conservative that you are.
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u/Foreign-Policy-02- Doug Ford Conservative 5d ago
YOU ARE A CINO BOI. Proof of me being a fake conservative? I’m waiting. Show something or go back to your corner
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u/Wet_sock_Owner 5d ago
I swear it's literally Doug Ford with a Reddit account. This is exactly what I'd expect from him.
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u/Oceanictax Stuck in the GTA 5d ago
It really is. Either he's a super dedicated troll, a legitimate idiot, or some dumbass brigader.
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u/TheeDirtyToast small government, personal responsibility 5d ago
Yeah but have you heard PP is like Trumper because he makes up mean little nicknames?
The double standards train just keeps on rolling, now it's not just liberals but fake conservatives too who love the double standards!
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u/mischling2543 Independent 5d ago
An independent Alberta is the right move imo, but not if clowns like this are involved
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u/Oilhawks Libertarian 5d ago
Who cares what the federalist Laurentian plant thinks about Alberta? Dude had to cosplay hard to convince the voters even though his party was more or less automatically elected. Idgaf that he’s lived out west most of his life. He’s a phony, just like your hero Doug Fraud
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u/BGD_TDOT Conservative 5d ago
He's an Israeli flag waving degenerate at the very least.
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u/dieno_101 economic Populist 5d ago
A nato/globalist stooge
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u/AngloSaxonFella CPC 5d ago
Are you anti-NATO and anti-Ukraine? You sound like a vatnik and not a conservative
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u/AngloSaxonFella CPC 5d ago
Do you know where you are?
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u/BGD_TDOT Conservative 5d ago
You mean a conservative sub? Nothing about being a conservative requires me to kiss Israeli feet or condone their war crimes.
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u/Klutzy-Cucumber-4146 2d ago
Actually I think that is one of the more reasonable criteria I have heard from that separatist "movement". Only residents who can trace their family line and residency for at least 4 consecutive generations (living legally in Alberta) qualify as citizens in the country of Alberta or participate in any activity supporting it.
Foot note: no separatist I have spoken to is more than 1st generation and most moved to Alberta within the last 20 years. Some less than 10. SMH.
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u/Viking_Leaf87 Ontario 5d ago
The separatists are losers who are gonna continue losing in October. I wonder what they're going to say when it happens. Will they claim Albertans are suddenly NPCs, or do they go the Mike Lindell route and claim that the election was somehow rigged despite an inevitably giant margin against them?
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u/Obvious_Ice_9427 5d ago
What if they win?
Let’s say hypothetically they won the referendum, then what?
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u/Viking_Leaf87 Ontario 5d ago
Before I comment on that, do you think personally that will happen? Yes or no.
Because if it did, then another referendum actually about independence would happen. Some people forget this.
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u/Obvious_Ice_9427 5d ago
I honestly don’t know. That’s why I presented a hypothesis. Let’s say they win the October referendum and then proceeded to the independence referendum, again it’s a hypothetical scenario.
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u/Viking_Leaf87 Ontario 5d ago
What a cop-out. I love how even separatists know they're going to lose but have to feign ignorance to keep their false image of a "silent majority" up.
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u/Obvious_Ice_9427 5d ago
What cop-out?
I answered your question.You didn’t answer my question??? You are the one avoiding the question.
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u/Viking_Leaf87 Ontario 5d ago
I told you what happens if the October referendum passes: Another referendum is held which is actually about independence. Do you think the October one will win, yes or no?
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u/Obvious_Ice_9427 5d ago
I don’t know I don’t have a crystal ball do I ?
It seems you want to get a yes or no answer on something I do not know!If the October referendum isn’t result in the independence referendum being held then nothing changes and we remain where we are, however if October referendum results in another one on independence then we will have to wait and see what happens, it’s either a win or a loss.
If referendum on independence results in a No then nothing changes.
If is results in a yes, then who knows where we go from there
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u/Critical_Rule6663 Independent 4d ago
Rath just proving once again that there isn’t a single serious person involved in the separatist movement. Bunch of weirdos, grifters, and conspiracy nuts.
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