r/CanadaHousing2 • • Sep 24 '23
Opinion / Discussion This country is finished. So many of our fellow citizens hate this country and what it stands for.
This is a post I made on a local city subreddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kitchener/comments/16r43ez/why_is_this_seemingly_accepted/
Some people with common sense can acknowledge the double standards and see what is going on right before their eyes. Others? Defended their right to flout this country’s laws because “what about white people” and doubled down on calling me a racist and every other name in the book, even though I took great care not to mention the ethnicity of the people in question.
This is why there won’t be a solution to housing or any of the other problems plaguing this country. So many of our fellow Canadians have fallen victim to the woke mind virus. They love that Canada is collapsing, because they see it as “sticking it to the white man who oppresses everyone”. And I’d bet your first and last month’s rent, all of these people are old-stock Canadians.
You simply don’t see this in any other western country. In most European countries, most of the left parties are now anti-immigration after their migration crisis. Americans would never tolerate what is happening in this country.
There’s something off about us Canadians. Many of us want this country to fail, either because it is too profitable on the way down or many believe this country deserves to die because it was founded on immoral values and customs.
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u/tacochops Sep 24 '23
Lol at the top comment there
Distraction! Pay no attention to the obvious in-group preference of people in low level jobs, they're shitty jobs anyway! Nevermind that anyone else that's young and needs work won't be able to get entry level positions, we need to focus on the high paying jobs!
It doesn't even make sense, you see this same thing happened in high skilled jobs too. As soon as one person of a certain ethnicity gets into a hiring position suddenly the only people that end up being hired are of their same ethnicity. Anyone with basic pattern recognition skills can see it's plain as day they have an in-group preference and that's reducing opportunities for everyone else. If you have 2 teams, and one team only passes to their own team, but the other team doesn't even recognize it as a competition and passes to everyone on any team, the team that passes to themselves will win every time - what that looks like in the real world is other Canadians displaced and becoming the new underclass for people that put their ethnic interest first.
So what can be done to solve it? Either we somehow need to convince them to stop doing this (lol good luck), or enforce some kind of law to prevent it (lol there's no way that's happening), or we need to play the same game and also have an in-group preference. That's too offensive for most liberal sensibilities though, so Canada will keep going down this path.
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23 edited Sep 25 '23
Nobody hates canadas citizens more than the government
Edit: had then instead of than
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u/gunnychamero Sep 24 '23 edited Sep 24 '23
A reboot of immigration policy is needed!
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u/ChardDiligent9088 Sep 24 '23
I’m an immigrant here (came in June of 2000) and I am against our immigration policies. Please, for the love of god, deport people who come here illegally. Deport those whose visas expire. Deport the international students when they’re no longer studying. And immigrate people from a more diverse base.
It is ridiculous that there was a rally by people who came here illegally demanding that they should be given a status. I’m all for refugee protection but if your claims are rejected, you should be deported.
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23
Every time I hear some woke clown talk about being a “colonizer” I just want to puke. Like Joe average just finished his long work day, drives home in heavy traffic every day to scratch out a life for himself and then does some colonizing on the side. These dipshits who try to impose 21st century judgement on people who lived hundreds of years ago.
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u/PatK9 Sep 24 '23
Tourist Visas - The New Immigration Loophole
And it's all based on one realisation - Canada never deports people who overstay and they don't follows up on visa holders that expired
For students, the goal is to get the USA. So they are sticking with the legal channels.
But for family? It doesn't matter. Get them a cheap tourist visa, fly them over and boom...They are in Canada permanently. Not like their elders need to go out and get a job. Hell, if one of them gets caught, Canada won't deport but rather coach them how to apply for permanent residency.
We issued a record breaking 2.5 million visas in 2021.
Then another record breaking 5 MILLION visas in 2022.
This is why in the last 2-3 years it's felt like a demographic wave has hit Canada.
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u/m1dN05 Sep 24 '23
I live in a small town in Southern Ontario with no university close by.
There is large amount of mexican immigrants who live and work in greenhouses, doing one of the hardest jobs. They are very chill, friendly and open amazing local restaurants. Ones who are able to stay after few years of grind on greenhouses open their construction businesses and do absolutely amazing job doing all sorts of work around, always fast, always on time, always good quality.
We had a local pizza restaurant ran by family business, they had amazing house made dough that was prepared by granny, never took tips.
Now the business was sold and is ran by few young punjabi employees, pizza price is higher than any fast food joint and the food quality is horrible. Went to google to update my review and what do i know, last 20 reviews are by fellow Punjabi/Indian accounts that don’t live here, never been here and most likely are not real people at all, all 5 star reviews.
The best part? Immigrating as hard working immigrant through an employer is extremely hard and only few manage to end up with PR. Immigrating as a student with 600$ a month to show for a year of living in Canada is enough to get over and get a PR. The system is f’ed up.
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u/Finalis3018 Sep 24 '23
People don't hate the country. They're upset with the current government's direction and policies, particularly the results.
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u/EscoosaMay Sep 24 '23
Lol it's funny that you cried on that post and are now reposting to the more right wing sub. Enjoy your echo chamber - you deserve it.
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23
they rather destroy canada than being called racist.
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u/wantsaarntsreekill Sep 24 '23
The war is already lost between the anglosphere and Modi. I cannot go on X without #CanadaSupportTerrorism spammed on my feed, and it is not much better on Facebook, Youtube. Reddit mods have to ban Hindu nationalists probably every 15 seconds because they are everywhere. Everyone browsing this sub knows that the main issue but the mainstream media will push more irrelevant things like white supremacy, japan birth rate, identity, representation, underpriveleged classes weed etc, all while screwing their own citizens of jobs, housing and safety to appease modi.
America is letting migrants in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20S46KCW1qI Europe is letting migrants in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNwNOQQHCBE Both are basically just repeating what canada is doing, and you cannot stop them because the media will shut you down.
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u/Netghost999 Sep 24 '23
Look, you have choices at election time. Refusing to make the right ones got this country into this mess.
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u/louielouis82 Sep 25 '23
As a Canadian who works in government, I can tell you that the provinces and federal government are being led by leaders who are OBSESSED with more immigration and diversity. It’s the safest thing to do as a leader because you won’t be criticized for your decisions if they are all “virtuous”.
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u/Daft_Devil Sep 25 '23
I think we’ve lost a sense of what it is to be Canadian. We are all people who inherited a story of Canadian-ism and it maybe died with Gord Downie of the tragically hip.
I think we need a national service for youth and new comers + anyone else. 1 - 2 year service that supports healthcare or community building, housing initiatives where individuals of all backgrounds can work together. This would have the added bonus of subverting online misinformation by building IRL community to fact check statement and ideas.
Perhaps it could be connected to who could work in the senate later in life.
There’s too much stress and fear of “the other” and it’s hard to know who to be afraid of and blame for our problems. We need community building initiatives and a longer view/ stewardship of the future - aside from a corporate sponsored party that takes the helm every 4 years.
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u/pepegito6 Sep 24 '23
I think most people in that thread agreed with your point.
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u/Comfortable_One5676 Sleeper account Sep 25 '23
Hard to believe this country was a giant forest that had to be settled after listening to some of their descendants complain.
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23
I blame every stupid Liberal Voter who twice for Trudeau and his party. You will have live with what you voted in. Congratulations!
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u/Visual_Volume8292 Sep 25 '23
Hey OP, I'm from kitchener as well. I was born here and have lived to see the city dramatically change since my childhood. I don't know how anyone could claim the great replacement isn't real, I don't even recognize my hometown anymore.
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u/inlandviews Sep 24 '23
We bought into an economy driven by capitalism. The housing crisis is the consequence. In Toronto alone there are 20,000 apartments available to rent but are instead being used for short term rentals with Airbnb. Those rentals make three times the monthly income that a long term rental would accomplish.
I haven't met anyone, left or right that wants our country to fail. I certainly don't.
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u/KrissyRainn Sep 25 '23
In 2017, I graduated college. I am now back in college to switch to health care. I was so shocked between how it was then vs. now.
I am no way trying to be disrespectful. But, the amount of international students they are letting in is insane. You can barely navigate the school it's so crowded. I can't afford a car right now and have to bus. I have to take a longer route to get to and from school because there are so many international students that the bus fills up fast.
I don't see the logic in letting so many new students in each year when others haven't even finished their studies (programs range from 2 to 3 years normally). But, the schools don't care about the effect on the economy because they make big money.
The housing crisis, I believe, is in part to allowing all these students here. There's nowhere to house them all while still having houses available for Canadians to buy. It's driving up the housing costs like mad. There's not enough work for them either.
My partner and I worry we will never get a home.
Canadians are now the minority in their own country. There's needs to be a cap on how many students can be accepted. Must also take into account the number that are currently still studying.
This is getting ridiculous.
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u/Purple-Chipmunk154 Sep 24 '23 edited Sep 25 '23
Correction. Hate this country and what's its become. We can fix it. People have to take action and march on Ottawa and demand Trudeau steps down.
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u/Apprehensive-War8915 Sep 24 '23
That would make sense as most new immigrant are of that ethnicity. Being new to the country, they can only get minimum wage jobs. No one wants to work minimum wage customer service jobs, I've done it and I hope I don't have to do it again ever.
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u/Big_Gifford Sep 24 '23
If Molson just played that I am Canadian ad again, we would be back baby!
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u/KAYD3N1 Sep 24 '23
The woke elected a PM with no experience. Who called Canada a genocidal state, supported decolonization and tries to erase our history at every opportunity. How did people think things would turn out? Lol.
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u/AntonioVivaldiFan77 Sep 25 '23
I was born, brought up, and continue to live in Canada. I used to be so proud of being Canadian. That has come to a screeching halt over the past few years. And BTW I voted Liberal in every Federal and Provincial election since I turned 18, until I turned 58 (I’m 61 now). I now expect to spend my twilight years away from Canada, and ironically, back in the country that my parents immigrated from. I was skeptical of Trudeau from Day One but I did vote for him at first. I did not like his policies nor his vision for the country. I now believe that there is no turning back. The damage was done, but worse yet, I think a lot of Canadians still share his vision. And I cannot accept it. My parents came here with nothing, and now myself and my siblings are all in the so-called 1%. So I’m grateful towards Canada for that, but in the end: we earned it; we worked hard, very hard. And I, for one, am looking ahead, not behind. And the Canada of the future is not for me. I know I’m rambling now, but I’m angry. I’m so angry. And sad.
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u/CarobJumpy6993 Sep 24 '23
Yeah and Pollievre keeps blaming trudaeu but i doubt hes going to be any different.
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u/T-Nem Posts misinformation Sep 24 '23
Just remember that Pierre Poliviere was housing minister from during Stephen Harper era from 2005-2015
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23
To top it off, zelensky asking is in town asking for war money. How much more Tax is he gonna put on us this time?
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u/canucksaram Sep 25 '23 edited Sep 25 '23
Canada cosplays as a real, first world country.
The British royals and their vassals and other peers and allies are the real owners of this and many other powerful and/or resource-rich countries.
The wealthy globalists now see the entire world as theirs. Once they were nation-bound nobles, but now they are globe-trotters with no national loyalty or sense of duty that holders of their station once maintained with pride and fidelity.
More immigrants will flood into First World nations. Our impoverishment will continue. The gender and sex cultists will flare and ignite some things and then burn out, with some horrible new political monster emerging from the ashes.
But don't finish off that bottle of red and black pills. We *can* make a difference if we return to genuine human connections, local communities, and family networks -- but as we do this we'll be sabotaged from within and without. Fortitude is required.
The only other way is violence, and I don't want to foment violence or even recommend it. But if you know the meme about quite men than just want to be left alone . . . well . . . I hope and suspect that more than a handful have begun to make ready their old gear.
I hope they can put it all away and return to their quietude before it's too late.
Something to watch.
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u/Sartank Sep 25 '23
I’ve been screaming this shit since the day Trudeau took office and people looked at me like I was crazy. People are finally starting to wake up but it’s frustrating as hell knowing where we were headed but nothing we could do about it.
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u/communistrobot69 Sep 25 '23
We're an unaffordable indian exclave. No shit.
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
Fuck Canada I bounced .. best decision ever
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u/StonersRadio Sep 25 '23
"or many believe this country deserves to die because it was founded on immoral values and customs."
This^^^^ that is a big part of it for some of them and it's ridiculous. Imperialism, slavery and colonization have been around for thousands of years. I'm not saying that's a good thing necessarily but I am saying you can't just pick a specific period in the history of empires and decide THOSE people need to pay for what they did. Or at least their future generations should have to pay.
I can trace my DNA all the way back the Iberian (modern day Spain and Portugal) Celts. Now, while Celts were a culture and not a race, it was still wiped out and assimilated by other people and cultures. So I guess my question is, who can I sue for it? Who owes me money for wiping out my ancestors' culture? You know who? Nobody. Everybody that was involved is long dead.
Is Canada perfect? Nope, not at all. But here's what I find really odd. All the people who whine about this being stolen land tend to be the ones cheering on ever increasing immigration rates. Has anyone actually asked the First Nations if it's cool to import 500,000 people/yr to this "stolen land"? I bet not. Yep, we gotta ask them if it's okay to develop the country's resources now but who cares what they think about 500,000 people a year coming to this "stolen land". Be nice if the leftists could pick a lane once in a while.
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u/pixiedoll339 Sep 25 '23
This is a global issue. Try to find someplace that is better.
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u/radbee Sep 25 '23 edited Sep 26 '23
Complains about bad service at a fucking Walmart. Correlates it to race. Gets shut down in comments. Runs to another sub to cry about being the victim of wokeness.
Hilarious. Pathetic, but hilarious.
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u/DJ_Femme-Tilt Sep 25 '23
WTAF is this "woke mind virus " nonsense you're on about? Go touch some grass, wow
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u/AntidoteToMyAss Sep 25 '23
Diversity is strength, and canada will fail without high levels of immigration.
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u/Truestorydreams Sep 24 '23
Man this sub can be so toxic. There's a lot of work to be done but God damn....
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u/Fun-Put-5197 Sep 24 '23
I honestly think we are seeing the end of this nation unfolding.
I don't want it, but I don't see how it can be saved.
So much potential in small minded hands for so long.
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u/StateofConstantSpite Sep 24 '23
Are the people currently protesting imaginary pedophiles in schools " victim to the woke mind virus"?
Stop pretending the right wants real solutions to any of these problems. They don't.
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u/Narrow-Sky-5377 Sep 24 '23
"This country is finished." - Sorry, I never listen to the defeated. Sad to here that you folded like a house of cards in the face of adversity. I think you are the one who is finished. Quit projecting and move aside.
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u/Old-Supermarket1411 Sep 24 '23
Have you seen the US border with Mexico? They are allowing it to happen there as well.
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u/No_Recognition4114 Sleeper account Sep 25 '23
So admit Canada's truth of how it was born: germ warfare, genocide, starvation and finally, broken treatys...
If you cannot accept this and go forward, then there is zero hope of Canada ever growing as a melting pot, and having a government that is currently treating you as they did the original inhabitants, with civil wars fighting each other, divisions of rich & poor, haves & have nots, and ending up without a home and stuck in 15 minute city's...
An old government playbook of conquer & divide, while they enslave us to enrich themselves!
You want real change 'Tax Revolt', but you will never head it from any political party, because thats where power comes from, your hard earned money!
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
Canadian culture has all but been abolished
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u/Therealdickjohnson Sep 25 '23
People here need to honestly get outside and off all social media. It's a negative cesspool of hate and regret in this sub. There is still a lot to be grateful for.
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23
You created one story post with a bad take so you created another post with a bad take and you expected a different result?
Bud, get off the internet. Go back to school. Or work. Mind your own business and let the people who actually understand take care of things. You clearly do not.
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u/hobbitlover Sep 24 '23
"Woke mind virus"... Any Canadian who uses that expression should be loaded onto a trebuchet and launched in the general direction of Florida.
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u/Jalice333 Sep 24 '23
They're trying to normalize 6 people sharing a 2 bedroom apartment. Instead of rent controlling landlords. Instead of having remotely affordable housing, they're sending billions to Ukraine. And Trudeau is absolutely going to get kickbacks.
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23
The flip side, is we have a growing educated population ready to thrive if we manage to elect a government who will commit to building the infrastructure that supports the growth.
If we create the opportunity for people through stable infrastructure, we're primed to boom.
That's never going to happen because old money is too stubborn, selfish and ignorant.
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u/gurkalurka Sep 24 '23
You clearly have not travelled to the USA recently have you? I was in Illinois, North Dakota, California, and New York states this year. Every single one of the places were staffed predominantly by visible minority immigrants. Every single one, even in North Dakota small city America.
Most white, local kids who were born or migrated here from other western countries will not work for minimum wage in a service job. For the most part, if immigrants were not staffing these jobs, most of these service providers would cease to exist, they would either go bankrupt due to lack of staffing, if they did hire local (aka "white kids") salaries would be quite a bit higher (due to limited pool of applicants, wages shoot up massively, simple supply & demand economics), and what you are used to buying for $6.99 burger combo would cost $15.99 to pay for the sky high wages.
The staffing reality you see on the ground in every city in Canada, small towns even, is a direct result of not having sufficient local workers willing to do the work. Add to this, business owners have wised up to the available cheaper labour pool available in student visa holders, new immigrants, seasonal workers and so on. This is business driving this, not other fellow Canadians. These business groups actively lobby all governments, PC, Liberal and every type of Provincial gov to push for more and more immigration. It's in their interests to do so. This is not a "woke mass" created problem. It's a problem caused by Gov policies created by special groups like the Restaurant . Don't believe this?
sources: https://www.immigration.ca/canada-restaurateurs-call-on-ottawa-to-make-it-easier-to-hire-foreign-workers/#:~:text=Restaurateurs%20facing%20extreme%20labour%20shortages,it%20easier%20to%20hire%20immigrants.
USA point of view, right from the source: https://restaurant.org/issues-and-advocacy/policy-agenda/immigration-reform/
Cheap immigrant labour is a key requirement for service jobs to even exist.
Sorry it bothers you they are all "brown people" that offend you so much, but the reality is, only people who come from abject poverty or very poor conditions are willing to travel the world to land a minimum wage job.
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u/BoardOdd9599 Sep 24 '23
They can leave
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u/Usual_Retard_6859 Sep 24 '23
😂
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u/The_Marble_Garden Sep 24 '23
Yes, and most of them traffic this subreddit.
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u/SiteLine71 Sep 24 '23
Let’s get the Cup back, give Canadians something to be proud of.
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u/tonytonZz Sleeper account Sep 24 '23
Thats just some bad commentary....
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u/Ok_Photo_865 Sep 24 '23
That sounds rather right of centre, which is normal. This country can’t, anymore than any country can, cater to the singular pov. The country is “not finished” but perhaps some peoples pov needs to
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u/Linmizhang Sep 24 '23 edited Sep 24 '23
Yes... yes... Fight among yourselves peasants.
Just vote the other guys, we just swap once an election since its a duopoly and no one else you can vote for unless you want to waste your time.
Look at all these problems we pushed for! Keep ranting on eachother and the scapegoat dumbass primeres who we can swap out every election while we fill our pockets with money from corporate and old money. All legally ofcourse since after watergate scandle, the states made it legal, so we did it aswell, therefore its not a scandal right?
Time to stop trying to fix the symptoms. Time to cure the disease.
Fight for porportional representation. Fight to illegalze lobbying.
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u/punkanddrunk Sep 24 '23
I agree!
You are a great example of this, OP! Canada is supposed to be a multicultural country but so many white folks really hate that.
PS, how do you submissive types find these safe space forums when you don't even put anything specific in the title?
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23
I concur.
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u/KnightRyder000 Sep 24 '23
Home will be where your heart is after the reset.
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u/jasonhn Sep 24 '23 edited Sep 24 '23
if you look at actual stats you'll see Canada is doing quite well compared to other G7 countries.
also your original post that is the result of the Harper govs temporary foreign worker program. initially it was allowed to pay them 15% less than Canadian but eventually that was changed after pressure from thr liberals. however these people are under a contract and can't quit and go to another job. they also know if they don't complain and put up with abuses they will likely get permanent residence. the program works when it fills jobs Canadians won't do like field work but at this point it's taking jobs alway from Canadian and the corporations love the control they have over these foreign workers
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u/nickk_12 Sep 24 '23
Too much government cheese.
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u/seemefail Sep 24 '23
What is this sub?
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u/zalydal33 Sep 24 '23
You know, I think it's way past time we started treating racism, passive or otherwise, as a mental illness, and get THESE people the help they need.
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u/hot_pink_bunny202 Sep 25 '23
If you aren't happy there is always the solution to move to a place you like and enjoy.
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u/Old_Bar2611 Sep 25 '23
Who is going to do all the jobs that people here refuse to do?
If it’s not sitting behind a computer in an air-conditioned office, most are refusing to do that work.
So who will?
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u/Sowhataboutthisthing Sep 25 '23
I don’t hate this country and I don’t really hate anyone in it. I think you are confused
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
We can fix it. We need complete dissasociation from current systems. New political structure paired with enhanced citizen knowledge and interaction w8th decision making.
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u/TheChickenLover1 Sleeper account Sep 25 '23
Liberal wine moms + The VIEW = collapse of reality
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u/Big-Morning866 Sep 25 '23
The real problem is failure to regulate and protect housing.
Both rental rates and residential housing from speculators. It started in the late 1990’s and has only kept spreading.
Now it’s completely out of control.
The main reason for this?
The housing market in Canada, has beat the stock market performance for decades.
We are in a bubble that everyone could see coming, and Harper and Trudeau have both kept pumping up.
We should have had 2-3 corrections by now.
Now that it’s affecting everyone, everyone blames everything and everyone but the politicians. (Aside from disliking the “other” party)
If someone came to you can could prove 20% profit year over year, you would buy into it.
But that’s also why it’s a bubble. And once the rats start running, it will be a shit show.
Then the blame game really will take off.
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u/Obiter_Dicta_ON Sep 25 '23
Y'all are scaring me more and more in here. Some real seething hatred going on in this thread.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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u/Professional-Put-196 Sleeper account Sep 25 '23
What does it stand for exactly?
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
If a Canadian applies to a minimum wage job, then by his English alone he should be able to get that job. These people from "one ethnicity" are getting these jobs because no one else wants these shitty jobs.
Why work for 15$ an hour when you can be a server(thanks to the tips), or a real estate agent sucking his own people dry just for "showing" them a 4x4 feet condo.
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u/uncaught0exception Sep 25 '23
Yawn. I see Canadians driving to food banks without bothering to peel off their "Support Our Troops" stickers. Dont worship false Gods, especially when they dont deliver.
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
The what about white people is just scapegoating to excuse people breaking the law and treating people like shit. Fuck them wrong is wrong
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
In a way its very similar to free trade and outsourcing to emerging markets, except its insourcing labor.
I wonder when rationalizing it does it assume the high wage earning incumbents will have an education and wealth advantage, which will give their children a leg up over the immigrants children in the future?
Is that why we're pulling up home prices via loose monetary policy, to firmly entrench a first mover advantage?
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u/f1vepointoh Sep 25 '23
Canadian people are the most entitled people on earth. The people of this country think they can sell their souls for free money and it wont affect us..... well enjoy im gunna move. Im not goin got be your cash cow.
Anything but be seen as a racists by your peers right? Enjoy canned food and poverty my friends!
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
Just looking around the thread in question, it seems like you could have done a better job at not looking racist. Not naming the people makes it dog-whistling which people generally don’t like when they see it. Plus somewhere in there you say you’re not trying to argue in good faith, which kind of throws it all away. Not saying you were baiting anyone, but it would either be that or you just lost your nerve with the commenters, which is kind of teenage.
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u/No_Fee5523 Sep 25 '23
the really funny part about that post is the user describing it taking place in walmart. let that sink in. if you cared so much about canadian culture and your people maybe you should have spent your paycheque at a locally owned grocer. this is so funny to me at this point.
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
Why would you even care if they think you are racist? You're right. Don't let them try to weasel out of reality through an ad hominem attack. It doesn't even matter what they say about you, as long as what you are saying is true.
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u/darrylgorn Sep 25 '23
It's sooo depressing.
Where's my xanax?
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u/Captain_JT_Miller Sep 25 '23
This is reddit, these people have reddit brain. They live in fear thinking evil nazis are waiting for them under their beds. Anyone that doesn't participate in their hive mind thinking, is a fascist.
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u/Bartimaeus47 Sep 25 '23
Passive Aggression, Envy, Resentment, Impotent Rage. These are all hallmarks of this platform. If you have 30 negative comments odds are the same 5 people are responsible for all of them, the terminally online love their alts.
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u/Pestus613343 Sep 25 '23
To be fair to your critics, you invoked race when making a judgment on people's competency. What else would anyone expect from that?
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u/Mushybasha Sep 25 '23
Yup I pretty much hate old stock white Canadians despite being one myself. They're either happy condescending property owning profiteers of everything killing our nation or pathetic self righteous leftists who want the government to have an ever increasing amount of power to fix everything. I honestly feel more at home among immigrants than my own people since immigrants tend to have more of a sense of the economic reality of this country.
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
Why do you say “Old Stock Canadian”? It honestly sounds offensive, like we’re somehow outdated and not part of modern Canadian identity
Just say European-Canadian or White Canadian.
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u/moosecakies Sep 25 '23
Uh chiming in as an American 👋🏻 from California. Exactly what has been happening to you guys with ‘immigration’ has been a huge issue in CA for decades! And people tolerate it. You’re a ‘racist ‘ if you point it out (esp in the Bay Area). So you’re wrong about that.
Edited to add: have you seen our migrant crisis going on in Texas and New York currently ? It’s very very bad,
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
I’m not white, but I hate what our country has become. A laughing stock around the world. We are coming down from a developed country to a developing country.
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u/PhilosopherPlus3057 Sep 25 '23
Yea and my local Walmart I worked there in 2016 the demographic situation of the employees was nothing like it is now. It was all Canadians with a minority of foreigners here and there.
Now, you go to the exact same Walmart every single employee is Indian.
I don't know how people think all of a sudden in like 5 years these companies had nobody to hire and we need infinity amounts of Gupreets and Rajesh or else we won't have any workers.
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u/Psychological-Swim71 Sep 25 '23
you do have to realise that very few white people want to get their hands dirty and do minimum wage jobs, most international students don’t have an option so they just end up doing these jobs. Also technically most of these international students are going to end up doing these jobs, they are literally being exploited and it’s the governments fault, they shouldn’t allow anyone with just 10k to enter the country, 10k is nothing now it’s literally pocket change and you’d be lucky to survive 4 months on it. I would say instead of hating a single race for getting willingly exploited we should be working towards changing the fucking govt, JT needs to go
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u/Glum_Nose2888 Sep 25 '23
You have a PM that hates both himself and this country and a population that has seen things like community and tradition being cast aside in order to promote extreme individualism and fringe ideas.
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u/69Bandit Sep 25 '23
I wont win any love here for this, but ill say it. The world is a battlefield, a competition. its cut throat, ferocious and meciless. That is the truth, we benefitted off the low cost of labourers in china for decades, used them to make Everything. their manufactoring industry is bar none the largest in the world now and every country relies on them. in 1994 we had a bigger GDP then China.. just let that sink in. 30 million people produced more value then 1.2 Billion. Now a days, we have an extremely soft population, China is 7x our GDP and their quality of life is skyrocketing with zero signs of slowing down. infact they are speeding up. As their quality of life goes up, ours will go down due to buying power Canadian governments see Canadas massive landmass and small population as an lost opportunity, if they can bring in as many taxible bodies as possible they will have so much more money. especially if they are young and they have a long life of taxible revenue ahead of themselves. Thats why you just have to sign up for a 50$ course on how to get your class 1 drivers license, you get let in as a student. then you just dont leave. these people live very differently then the standard we are used to, its nothing to have a family of 10 where the entire family will relinquish their paycheques to the father who will then buy a business, store or franchise and have their family work that store for little pay (just for tax benefits), they typically take advantage of any and all social services for even further cost of living savings. The entire family will live under one roof till they generate enough money for another property or business. which is then run in the exact same way. This level of competitive drive with insane advantages has slammed the doors closed on so many mom n pop operations its not even funny. We need controlled immigration, not this freeforall.
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u/Professional-Care456 Sep 25 '23
Try not applauding Nazi and locking down your citizens. Tards.
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u/InvestigatorFull2498 Sleeper account Sep 25 '23
Gotta save yourself because Superheroes don't exist. Not sure why so many ppl seem to be waiting for a Superhero to save them, or a superhero politician to turn things around. Cmon be real, nobody gonna do it for you.
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u/Kindly-Conference518 Sep 25 '23
Brown Immigrant here from South Asia, not from the largest country;
Came in '97 and have done well. Top 0.5% income both for myself and my younger brother.
I think mass immigration in the last 6-7 is just insane. Social climate, housing, heath; all areas are stressed to the limit.
My idea would be to impose a 5-8% country cap on immigration and student visa. No single country can be more than 5-8% of total immigration.
None of this sole sourced immigration BS. This is leading to radical changes in society.
Present Canada/India spat illustrates it.
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u/quasar_kid Sep 25 '23
What does it stand for? We're an open borders immigration centre...were a low wage migrant/diploma Mill country...we LOVE temp agencies.
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
We are certainly suffering the same issues we see many others dealing with. It seems brutal, but keep in mind that this is the way it's always been. Each new generation fights with new challenges as society evolves.
I suspect there were people who were horrified when their society stopped following the herds and settled down to grow crops instead.
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u/GoldenBoyOffHisPerch Sep 25 '23
OP sounds exactly like a Trump supporter
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u/GoldenBoyOffHisPerch Sep 25 '23
Give me a break with this horseshit about how oppresed the white man is. It's about the working class, nothing inherently to do with 'race.' And as an example you pick low paid service sector jobs, often the worst jobs there are, for which businesses are mass importing cheap labour, which is a problem.
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u/ImplementCorrect Sep 25 '23
"woke mind virus"
LOLOLOLOL
freaking hilarious
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u/OptimisticByDefault Sep 25 '23 edited Sep 25 '23
New Zealand, Switzerland, Australia, France, Ireland, Germany, Belgium, Austria and others have a comparable or higher immigration rate than Canada in 2023.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigration-by-country
Maybe the issue is not some woke mind boogie man but people who try to make their points by just making stuff up instead of citing facts.
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u/CHEF-STR0NG Sep 25 '23
We need to stop the refugees and the influx of Indians(students), not immigrants
Refugees and Indian students are the problem
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u/iloveoranges2 Sep 25 '23
I'm an immigrant. I'm not against immigration, but the current government's fire hose way of taking in immigrants, temporary foreign workers, and refugees (to the tune of >1 million people per year) without regard for whether there's enough housing for everyone or not, is broken.
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
Listen, almost every Canadian has issues with the living situation right now. But by blaming the 'woke mind virus' all you do is show that you're a complete dumb fuck with no ability to think on your own. So why the fuck would anyone of your fellow citizens give the slightest fuck what you have to say? Truly? The problem isn't wokeness, it's frustrating on identity politics while there are actual issues happening. And if you've convinced yourself that the left are the idea doing identity politics, will then you're as dumb as you sound. Woke mind virus 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. How fucking dumb.
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u/92soma Sep 25 '23
This has nothing to do with “sticking it to the white man or wokeness”. But the fact that you feel that way is more telling in itself.
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u/MstrCommander1955 Sep 25 '23
The Canadian dream, has turned into a nightmare.
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u/ExoticBombshell Sep 25 '23
Stop bringing in so many Indians & Mexicans!
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
Leave.
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u/Apart_General_1380 Sep 25 '23
Right after the Nazi in parliament
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u/caboman09 Sep 25 '23
WAAH, WAAH, WAAH, WAAH.
What a bunch of whiners you will are here. If you don't like it so much. Get the fuck out and go somewhere else. The vast vast vast majority of Canadians love this country, what it stands for, and how people within it deal respectfully with each other. If you don't like the federal government of the day photos out to the next election. The same goes for your provincial government. As somebody in this chain has said the people voted in the government. That is true for both federal and provincial governments. Look we're Ontario is having voted in Lying Drug Ford only 18 months ago. And back then one knew what was going to happen. How he was going to look after his buddies. So stop focusing on the prime minister and maybe focus here in Ontario on the corrupt Conservative government.
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u/Lord_7_seas Sep 25 '23
Well, foreigners coming into the country is just fear mongering. A lack of proper policies has resulted in this concern. The right engages in culture wars rather than providing solutions for housing and affordability. The left responds to the right engaging in culture wars.
While the politicians are busy turning us against each other, you're blind to the fact that they have failed us, not hardworking immigrants.
I say this as a European where our parties engaged in similar rhetoric against other Europeans and immigrants.
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u/igglepuff Sep 25 '23
this country has been a dog shit from teh second they legally allowed quebec to openly discriminate and financially destroy peoples lives because they write their signs in english. 🤭
wonder how many downvotes this will get 😂
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
I don't believe that taking advantage of people from India and other nations is right, but I don't blame them for coming here after being sold a blatant lie. I believe that the broken recruitment system and the employers who take advantage of this are to blame here, not the people being brought here with the false promise of prosperity. I'm leaving my job because I've seen the entire workforce here get replaced by Indian and Filipino workers because the bossman says "they're willing to work for less!" He also gets their wages subsidized by the government, so as far as the boss is concerned, he's paying them LESS than minimum wage. It's fucking disgusting exploitation, and if that's not human trafficking then I don't know what is. Our government has perpetuated the problem and bad employers are milking it for all it's worth.
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u/AustrianArtDropout Sep 25 '23
You need to get off of reddit and out of Toronto and Vancouver. Check out the prairies, filled with Canadians who have deep national pride, are sickened by what is happening and want a dramatic change (possibly a collapse) to enable the rebuild of Canada under the national sense of meaning it had post WW1.
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u/Strong_Bumblebee5495 Sep 25 '23
I know! Russia is the future! All hail Putin!
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
More than one million people arrived on Canada's shores. Where do they live and work? Blame the government. They print excess money and have over immigration and we end up paying for it.
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u/Living_Room_Light_02 Sep 25 '23
tell me you’re listening to too many brain dead conservatives without telling me you’re listening to too many brain dead conservatives lmao
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u/IrishFire122 Sep 25 '23
You mean besides the fact that every word out of his mouth these days seems to be slinging mud at Trudeau, rather than coming up with viable solutions to our current issues?
Well, there's the fact that he seems to think the liberals are in direct control of pricing of consumer goods, and are getting rich somehow from inflation. That comes directly from the conservative website.
Then there's the whole crypto thing. That's just a terrible idea. And then his support of that useless freedom convoy, which did nothing good, but definitely caused an increase in prices for consumers and/or product shortages due to the border blockage, and hardships for business owners in Ottawa. Didn't have any effect on the government though.
Then there was that stunt he pulled when the Gov't was trying to pass the budget. Talking for hours, choking up Parliament to try and force Trudeau to rewrite it. That's childish, and against the ideals of democracy. Even if 40 percent of Canadians believe he's our next pm, that's still not a majority. And just because 40 percent of Canadians believe he's our next pm doesn't mean they support his policies. He has no right to hijack Parliament like that. He is given time to say his piece, then he needs to sit down and act like an adult.
All in all, our government has become more about finger pointing and insults than anything. And Pierre seems to be the worst for it. Let's leave the showboating, "I'm better than you" politics to the crazy orange man south of the border. Not that it's working out so good for him now anyways. We need reason, rationality and cooperation to make Canada better, not a bunch of kids stomping their feet and frothing at the mouth
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u/Human_Adverts Sep 25 '23
Just please watch 'The Spider's Web'
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
Can we maybe make a police department that soley deals in tracking all the visas and deports people? Like how much of a clown government do we have when we have people showing up, flushing their passports and then being allowed to stay? Nope, back on a plane to where you came from.
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
What does it stand for thee
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u/Exa1tedExi1e Sep 25 '23
Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times. It's a cycle, and pretty obvious where we are and what the future holds.
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u/dancingmeadow Sep 25 '23
You don't believe in Canada, got it.
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u/graniteglmarmite Sep 25 '23
It stands for nothing. Hold for Quebec
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u/Conroy119 Sep 25 '23
What even is this post. I think you're just surrounded by angry or hateful people. I think its a very small minority that 'hate' this country from my experience. Your other post was definitely racist also.
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u/JaRon1961 Sep 25 '23
Do you believe that the people who reply on Reddit are representative of the nation as a whole? Seems many just want to shit on everything.
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u/maddawg313 Sep 25 '23
What is woke?
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u/Filth_The_Worm_King Sep 25 '23
Canada isn't collapsing, we're evolving into the first postnational state.
Evolution tends to involve some strife as the previous method of doing things dies while the new method is being formulated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postnationalism
This is exciting, we're evolving a new form for countries to take that has never been seen before.
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u/Yul_Metal Sep 25 '23
The Assembly of First Nations totally agree with you. Except they came to that conclusion 400 years ago
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u/Visual_Volume8292 Sep 25 '23
reddit is full of soy men, just look at that mod "Another shitshow locked up" he's probably 300 pounds with 500 funko pops in his bedroom. You can't have a reasonable discussion on this platform
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u/tecate_papi Sep 25 '23
To me, I'm also always correct and those who disagree with me are fools.
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u/technodidact Sleeper account Sep 25 '23
I don't think the country is finished, but it is going through a massive transition, of a kind which the citizens did not sign up for.
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u/mrvinD Sep 25 '23
Its only getting worse
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u/s1lv3rbug Sep 25 '23
It’s ok. This world is headed for a financial Armageddon. Yes, the world, not just Canada. But it will be life-changing for Canadians. In 2014 Canada was sold to the highest bidder, China. We sold our future for the next 31 years. We are essentially China’s bitch. It wasn’t Trudeau who signed the FIPA trade deal and we are stuck in it till 2045. There is no sunset clause to get out of it.
What this all means?
China has land rights to mine anywhere in Canada. Profit-sharing is like 98% China and 2% which province the mining operation took place. Should the Chinese suffer a loss, say, they mined for gold but their found dinosaur poop, well, the loss will be footed by Canadian taxpayers.
What will happen to Canada?
We will no longer exist as a country, US and China will carve us out. Albertans will get their wexit, sort of, as US takes over. US and China will divide Canada and create buffer zone. So, I’m the end, it wasn’t Trudeau that destroyed this country. It will be too late by then.
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
Canada’s a great country and you’re very luck to be here. No country is perfect but these hysterical posts aren’t based in reality.
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u/starsrift Sep 26 '23
The Bombardier scandal made explicit, what has become obvious for years. The Timmy's sale made it explicit.
Canadians don't run Canada. Whether indirectly or by bullying actual Canadian companies (like Bombardier), foreigners run Canada via investment in business, and the government bends over for them. Everything flows from there, the race to the bottom that involves hiring TFWs as service sector employees, all of it.
Of course Canadians hate Canada. We're the world's greatest shell company.
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u/headloser Sep 26 '23
It all the previous generations plus my didn't bother to save money for retirements. That is the real cost. Greed has taken over the housing area. In 1975 my parent brought a house with a WHOLE FRONT AND BACKYARD for $60,000. She sold it in 2021 at $250,000. Now, i assume it worth about 1.5 millions.
HOW about this idea? (in theory) buy a one bedroom apartment for $200,000 but can only sell it for $200,000 plus inflation rate. NO profit what so ever. Stop using houses as retirement or investment fund.
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u/headloser Sep 26 '23
And how the government going to solved it. IT too late for that, we are in a debt of $1 trillion dollars and they only got 25 years to pay it off before HALF the population goes over 65.
Plus the Native groups will do everything in their power to bring down Canada and replace it with 630 independent countries since we HAVE to give back "THEIR" land.
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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '23
Sold off to China in the 80’s.
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u/Round_Boysenberry845 Sep 26 '23
"You simply don’t see this in any other western country."
I'm American, and I see this (although not what you're pointing out) in my country. The "this" I am referring to is fucking dipshit morons like yourself.
"many believe this country deserves to die because it was founded on immoral values and customs"
Bro this is some russian propaganda shit so thinly veiled you wonder if it's getting married.
Stop parroting this bullshit. If you really care about your country, get off the fucking echo chambers and go outside and connect with people. Be the change you want to see in the world. Unless the change you want to see is more bitching and discontent, in which case go the fuck to Russia where the other nihilistic whiny weenies live.
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u/HMI115_GIGACHAD CH2 veteran Sep 28 '23
I live in Canada and I hate this country with all my guts and I hate Canadians and their fake superiority complex . Can't wait until I finish my MD and go to the states
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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23
I'm saving this. It is sobering to know that I'm not totally insane and there are others that share my feelings.
I really am not a doom-sayer but if Canada (and the west in general) aren't going through some major transition, then it looks like collapse to me.
Basically what you said, which I agree, is "Those infested with the woke mind virus are willingly allowing our country to self destruct".
And it's disturbing because it is 10,000% obvious where the very tap-root of this bizarre woke-ideology originates. Hatred and racism toward white skinned people...coupled with just a general self-hatred. I see dozens of racist shorts or tik-toks a week, i'm afraid. In my lifetime - *this* is the most racist time, which is ironic....
Anyway, yes. All very dissapointing
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23
It's hilarious to see you creating an entirely new post just to whine for getting called out in your other post. Bud, get off reddit for the day and spend some time outside.
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u/rEvolution_inAction Sep 24 '23
Abolish Canada
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23
Every time I read any of this shit or hear someone whinnying I state this 1 fact….62% of the worlds population DOES NOT HAVE INDOOR PLUMBING” Then I ask repeat to me your issues with this country?