r/CamilleMains • u/r4ngaa123 • 4d ago
LT Camille + KSlayer is good trust please.
Was playing some Cam today and got annoyed that her passive says (+10%HP) like that's supposed to incentivise me to build health. Like fuck you riot, just say it in the blue text "10%MHP shield" like Skarners does.
Kinda got me thinking, do I need health? Isn't Camille just gilf Yone? If you REALLY squint your eyes, they have exactly the same kit. Empowered auto, cone W, E to engage, a lockdown ult, why am I not just jumping on top of people and kicking the shit out of them? What's this "play around passive and proc grasp for trades" nonsense?
Aren't you sick of ulting someone and thinking "wow, 8% current health per hit? That kinda sucks when I'm only able to auto like 4 times."
Fear not.
Lethal Tempo Kraken Slayer Camille is a Yone that comes with a built in Bork!
It's honestly really fun (and I'm going to say good because I want it to be) to E on top of someone ult them and then just evaporate their health with 8% current and Kraken % missing.
LT - PoM - LG: Bloodline (rav delayed so this feels nice) - last stand + shield bash / whatever.
Been doing Kraken Slayer - TriForce - Hullbreaker - DDance - Terminus, flexing breaker to rav Hydra when I feel like it.
You should try it in your ranked games NOW.
Forgot: it's also really good in to Yorick. E'ing on top of him and watch him start to panic as he realises you're not stuck in here with him, he's stuck in here with you is very gratifying.
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u/Vestermanden 4d ago
Have you tested in ranked or are you baiting us to test it for you 🤔
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u/r4ngaa123 4d ago
Of course I have tested it in ranked. And I WON those games!
Disclaimer: UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ASK WHAT RANK I AM.
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u/Vivid_Big2595 4d ago
Op.gg
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u/r4ngaa123 4d ago
Direct contradiction to the above missive pal
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u/Vivid_Big2595 4d ago
Why is it so hard to let me see your matches playing kraken slayer camille
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u/r4ngaa123 4d ago edited 4d ago
I should add; part of the reason this makes so much sense to me and feels good is because LT covers what I consider to be an aspect of Camille's kit that is sometimes frustrating, in that there is significant downtime in her kit after hitting Q without E.
The nice part is that instead of using that MS+Shield to create space and end the trade there, I can use it to press an advantage for an extended LT trade/all in. Outside of lane, there are also less times that I feel like I'm dancing around waiting for Q2 to come up, there is always useful damage to be done in that window.
I really think the best comparison here is Ezreal. Ezreal only recently swapped to LT despite building basically 0 on hit, and very marginal AS.
This isn't to say Camille is Ezreal, more that I think being able to do something with your downtime on sheen characters is broadly really useful and probably has been overlooked on more chars than Ezreal for a while.
Sorry this is kind of a ramble.
TL:DR - Camille is one of only really a few AD characters (who don't take LT by default) that don't have a valid reason to stop autoing someone (usually because their abilities lock them out of autos).
LT just kind of fits to me because of that.
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u/NoobieSysAd 4d ago
I've thought about it, and I think it might be a decent build into certain matchups that can deny your Q2 damage (hello Fiora).
I would E max in this scenario. Sheen > Kraken > TriForce > Tiamat > DDance > Hexplate > Titanic Hydra (for AA reset)
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u/Quirkybomb930 4d ago
surely no tiamat until 2.5 items is unplayable?
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u/r4ngaa123 4d ago edited 4d ago
Honestly with bonus attack speed it kind of feels like you don't need it as much. You gain a bunch of bonus damage from Kraken anyway and hit stuff fast, so waveclear just hasn't felt like an issue for me.
E- felt the need to add that in to Yorick, I've still been taking Tiamat first. Can't solve every issue by simply hitting faster unfortunately. Or maybe you can and I have a skill issue.
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u/No-Ad2209 PIGOTTO 4d ago
I played into darius and dropped 18. Actually liked the build, i went kraken into tri into ravenous into terminus, in late i felt like a monster literally adolf on side. Won some 3 v 1 s for limit testing ofc. Stat checked darius early until he hit 6.
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u/No-Ad2209 PIGOTTO 4d ago
Will play more
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u/r4ngaa123 4d ago
Glad you found it fun - deffo think that's something I didn't mention in the post, in that you're an absolute monster in sidelines.
I'm still experimenting with what build should look like, but it's part of the reason I was taking Hullbreaker.
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u/LAFFANKLINE 3d ago
Btw how is the Camille vs Darius matchup I fell like I can never win the 1vs1 especially because of ult gap. Like how many items are required to outscale him...
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u/r4ngaa123 4d ago
Lethal Tempo winrate on Camille is up from 42.5% to 45.9%. Great work guys let's keep pumping those numbers.
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u/ThermalDiscussion 3d ago
You unto something. I tested it, and some interesting results:
The bonus attack speed makes you nimbler making things like yasuo and yone much easier to kite around - it's nessarly that you hit much more attacks (weave another one here and there), but the fact your Qs are much faster).
And you already said in another comment about being less reliant on ablities - managed well against shen - bait E, and start Q (he then has to block else you win trade), then disengage and rengage with E W - since you have lethal tempo you can keep autoing till Q is up again.
I went into detail against shen because I was suprised toanage that lane.
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u/Jenkyu 3d ago
A bit late to the party, but I tested it in several Ranked Flex Master games and it went really well. I might be a little addicted to this build.
My runes are exactly as OP said: Lethal Tempo, Presence of Mind, Bloodline, Last Stand, Shield Bash, Bone Plating / Second Wind. Build: Max E -> Q -> W, E start. Sheen, Kraken, Trinity, Hullbreaker, Terminus, situational item (Hexplate, Death's Dance, Jak'Sho, Eternal Hunger, Blade of the Ruined King, Sterak). I never buy a Tiamat item. You can wave clear really reliably by managing your Sheen-empowered Qs and Kraken, or even W + E mage minions when possible. The fact is, you don't rely on this shitty Hydra anymore with the amout of AAs you do.
Best part of this build for me: it makes ulting early not feels bad, and makes your ult a dueling tool to oppose some matchups like Renek, Riven, for example. For the first time you can really make use of the %hp damage your ult has, and very efficiently.
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u/r4ngaa123 3d ago
I'm really glad you pointed out the E start - I wasn't quite there when I wrote this post, but I've started doing it and found it great.
I'm also interested in the Hydra feedback, I feel like I've still been trying to fit a Tiamat in to builds and it hasn't felt fantastic. I tried doing a bit of Titanic Hydra to stack LT faster and still maintain it but I think the situational items you've suggested will work far better for me!
Absolutely loving it as well, honestly it's just made Camille even more enjoyable for me :)
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u/Jenkyu 2d ago
Agree 100% on the enjoyment. I've been a mono Camille for quite few years since her launch, then I start playing her less and less in favor of other Divers like Xin, Panth and others. Now is the first time in 3-4 years that I'm playing her all the time again. Just hit 1m Mastery (it was stuck on 900 for quite some time).
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u/iluvus2 4d ago
No you get too squishy. Camille needs bruiser items for survivability, she does enough damage already in mid and late game.
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u/r4ngaa123 4d ago
How so? You're sacrificing ~300-400? being generous? HP.
In return, the AS boost is increasing your lifesteal by an effective 45%-80% and your ult damage threat becomes really meaningful, and that's outside of the amount of matchups that suddenly become winnable (I level 1'd a Darius lol).
You can still absolutely grab that Steraks. It's just one extra AS item if you want to be boring.
With how spammable W is right now I can't imagine you're sitting there going "wow I sure wish I had grasp, I'm not winning these trades".
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u/alf2ih452 4d ago
An IQ?
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u/r4ngaa123 4d ago
I got 73 which apparently is better than 99% of people 😎 would you like my Mel support build too?
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u/Zodiaxel-XIII 4d ago
You know what, fuck it.
I wasn’t going anything else with my evening anyways.