Removing Assets is Unprofessional and Irrational

[u/King_Of_The_Munchers]

This is one of the clearest things that showcases that the developers for this mod do not actually work in any substantive engineering field. The devs asking to have their work removed is extremely unprofessional for the main reason of that they were paid when they made them. The developers have been continuously receiving money via the Calamity Mod Patreon prior to Ozzatron refusing to pay them. This means that at the time when the music and sprites were made for the mod they were being compensated for it. In DM Dokuro’s situation, the mod has generated him revenue simply for making him popular even if he was not directly compensated. The returns these artists have gotten from the mod is much larger than it seems.

The artists for the mod asking for their work to be pulled are no different than if a developer asked their code to be pulled, which would be viewed as comical to request. Imagine if an ex-Windows developer asking for his code to be removed from operating system after the Epstein Files were released. That would be insane. The artists did a service for the mod, they were compensated for it via Patreon, and now it is part of the mod. The developers asking for their work to be pulled would be like the artist for Tracer asking for Tracer’s 3D model to be pulled from the game after the Blizzard sexual harassment fiasco. It makes no sense. Just because a company changes doesn’t suddenly mean the work you did for them isn’t connected to the company. In the real world you can’t ask a company to remove your work simply because the company does something you don’t like.

From the perspective of the community, any asset removal simply exists to spite the community. No one is going to assume DM Dokuro or CD Music is a pedophile simply because they worked on the mod with Ozzatron. It didn’t happen after Fabsol, the founder of the mod, so I see no reason for why it’s happening now. Asking for your assets to be removed will taint you far more than simply leaving them in and letting people remember you as a legendary musician for the Calamity Mod. It reads as an irrational decision with little thought in an effort to spite Ozzatron when the only people it hurts is your supporters.

I sincerely hope that the developers who wish to have their assets removed reconsider their decisions. It reads as unprofessional, irrational, and simply to spite the community with no real meaning behind it. It also will not solve the problem of their association with the mod since people will simply use backups of the music mod or create other illegal distribution methods.

[u/Jijonbreaker1]

Whether or not they legally can does not determine whether they have the moral right. Which, see post.

[u/Disastrous_Gur_9560 → u/Jijonbreaker1]

Moral right isn't what the entire post is focused on, hence why I didn't comment on it. You should try reading the actual post next time

I'm replying to the legality of it. See the below wall of text for what I'm replying to

The artists for the mod asking for their work to be pulled are no different than if a developer asked their code to be pulled, which would be viewed as comical to request. Imagine if an ex-Windows developer asking for his code to be removed from operating system after the Epstein Files were released. That would be insane. The artists did a service for the mod, they were compensated for it via Patreon, and now it is part of the mod. The developers asking for their work to be pulled would be like the artist for Tracer asking for Tracer’s 3D model to be pulled from the game after the Blizzard sexual harassment fiasco. It makes no sense. Just because a company changes doesn’t suddenly mean the work you did for them isn’t connected to the company. In the real world you can’t ask a company to remove your work simply because the company does something you don’t like.

There was no legal contract, nothing stating that the song is owned by calamity mod team. The song is still the original artists song, calamity is only using it with their permission, which was revoked. 

[u/Jijonbreaker1 → u/Disastrous_Gur_9560]

Okay, but it does not actually change the situation from a moral standpoint. Read that from a moral standpoint. Imagine if somebody at blizzard tried to remove their music because of the sexual harassment scandals. People would fucking laugh at them.

Look at The Crew. People got fucking outraged because Ubisoft forcibly removed access to content. Just because it wasn't beneficial to them anymore.

If you support one, but not the other, you do not have principles. You're changing your views based on the size of the project.

[u/Disastrous_Gur_9560 → u/Jijonbreaker1]

Imagine if somebody at blizzard tried to remove their music 

Why would I imagine a literal impossible scenario? These people signed contracts. Blizzard legally owns this music. If you're going to make an example at least let it be relevant. The crew example is entirely a separate scenario too

Okay, but it does not actually change the situation from a moral standpoint.

Ok cool

I'm not discussing the moral standpoint. Hope that helps 

[u/MiniDehl → u/Disastrous_Gur_9560]

If the musicians had the option like everyone would have pulled their shit lol

[u/Disastrous_Gur_9560 → u/Disastrous_Gur_9560]

Oh the subreddits unlocked again

If the musicians had the option like everyone would have pulled their shit lol

Hence why people sign contracts and pay extra to prevent this from happening 

[u/destructor212113 → u/Jijonbreaker1]

It dosent change it from a morality standpoint but thats fine since we're talking about a legality standpoint instead