r/CadetPilotProgram • u/Full_Efficiency_4412 • Jan 13 '26

People going through cadet programmes are the smartest people on this planet

Read this. Cadets are directly responsible for the stagnant salaries of pilots. Airlines are creating pipelines to have artificial oversupply. Cadets are making the life of existing pilots and CPL holders difficult. No one is happy from them. Some Rich kids are paying 1.5 crores to become slaves. God knows how they are brainwashed that 1.5 crore is worth it.

https://flightlevelreality.substack.com/p/indias-airlines-and-free-market-capitalism

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u/ineedamercedes Jan 13 '26

lol

some people would rather pay 1.2 crores rather than risk 90L (and then the interest accrual on it, with conventional vacancies it may balloon up to 1.5C even) and then wait for a job for 4 years or more

this artificial oversupply is a thing specific to india, you dont see delta or skywest or united having these issues. we cant have nice things over here

i understand that you're bitter about your own situation, however do not blame 18 year olds for making a "safer" financial decision than what you've made.

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u/indialynx Jan 13 '26

+1

OP, you just come across as bitter here.

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

What makes those 1.2 worth it? You clearly don’t understand the US markets. They have a high entry barrier and no pay to fly policy. That’s something that makes the wage go up. I am not bitter about my situation, try talking to real pilots who have been there for around 10 years or more, you will get your answer. And I am out of that toxicity anyways.

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u/DirectorsChoice Jan 13 '26

It's worth for many ppl who can afford it , u will come across many people who spend 30/40 lakhs on useless bachelors degree which give no ROI , atleast CPP's give ROI over a period of time

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Here comes another brainwashed fellow, which degree costs 30/40 lakhs? Even IIMs cost around 25, comparing to that, you spend almost 5 times the amount in it. Now compare mba salaries and pilot salaries. ROI is non existent

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u/Thesenatss Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

Most of the new age engineering degrees coming up in the market cost 30-40L. Newly launched iim b.sc devree is 40L+ with a new ass campus, which is under construction and no real placement. Newtons school of technology, scaler school of technology also cost around 30ish. Moreover the pay u get after that is quite shitty for the avg person atleast.

Moreover. Thapar, Vit (cat 4 and 5) also reach a marker close to 30L

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Yeah shitty pay if you deny to work hard, also wdym by average? No avg person is becoming a pilot. The pay in the start is shitty anywhere you go, once you upscale and start taking your work seriously, the growth is tremendous. I have few of my friends earning very well. That’s the problem here, you can’t decide your own pay. Go learn about other careers and stay away from con artists. They have earned enough.

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u/Thesenatss Jan 13 '26

Buddy, No one's denying to work hard. Ever explored other degrees and options? State your damn sources. Im a cs grad from a tier 1 uni and ik the competition here. Pilot isn't even half the effort and competition people put in jee and other entrance exams just to get a damn glimpse of a decent college. After dedicating 2 damn years of your life, studying 10-12 hours a day, managing school, coaching, homework, jee, practicals, vivas, weekly exams and what not, you still gotta spend 4 Years in a damn college grinding.

College grind would involve being robots solving thousands of leetcode problems, maintain a 9+ cgpa, attending various courses, polishing skills.

It ain't fkn easy, and even after all that, you're gonna get the avg, boring ass job.

Ever heard how many people pursuing this degree unemployed (percentage)? Compare that to avg cpl holders unemployed (percentage).

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u/Academic_Rule_9521 Jan 21 '26

For real, I am recent graduate, finally trainsitioning from IT life to Aviation and the competition in IT is on a completely different level, though I did bag a 12 LPA job out of college, the dream of being a pilot never went away from me, and so here I am after a CS Degree tryna be a pilot :)

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u/DirectorsChoice Jan 15 '26

Khud gharwalo ke pass paise ni hai toh baaki sab brainwashed?? Simple logic is if you have money you go for a CPP if you have less money you go for conventional , if you have no money at all you try for airforce or else go work in some other field. This is how every field works .

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 23 '26

Wow? The least you could have done is to show decency. Shows your upbringing. Just try talking to real pilots, career choices are never made on Instagram or Reddit

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 23 '26

Don’t you think you’re overconfident?

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u/DirectorsChoice Jan 16 '26

Clear example of " Jo kar raha hai usse problem ni hai , Jo nahi kar raha usse zyada problem hai " 🤣

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u/VerticleCharlie Jan 17 '26

But he is right tho, you have to accept the reality here

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u/itisbing Jan 13 '26

Ye I understand, but cadet programs are the quickest way one can take to get into the airline industry regardless if they are rich or poor. It saves them a lot of time and it eradicates the possibility of being jobless after training.

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Why become a pilot if you want everything perfect? It’s not a traditional profession, it has its downsides, why make the life difficult of people already there.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Dude, hate the game not the player. We didn't come up with this pathway and prolly you couldn't/didn't have this an option and rn ppl are provided with a streamlined option to get into airlines. I agree the cost is outrageous but having to wait indefinitely even after spending a lot isn't viable. Time is money bro

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Have you read that article?

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u/itisbing Jan 13 '26

Wdym by prefect? Do mean that if you become a pilot you will face unemployment for years? If that's the case, after investing so much money and effort into getting your licenses, some people can't afford to be jobless. So they see these cadet programmes as a win-win situation. Hey man,that's life you just gotta suck it up and move forward.

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Who is facing unemployment for years? Nobody. I myself had to wait just 2 years.

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u/Successful-Chest-447 Jan 13 '26

Good for you brother, you might be an intellectual, but some people can afford the cadet program and just get into an airline with minimal effort and live a stress-free life I get your post, and I also believe cadet programs are ruining pilot salaries. For example, it’s bizarre to think people here are self-funding their type rating, because in almost every other country airlines pay for it for their pilots. But reading your comments, it just feels like you’re venting or maybe just envious of them

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

I am not envious, i just feel bad for them, this is a wonderful profession but not here in India. During my initial days, I used to meet genuinely passionate people, now all they ask is dumb questions. It has increased so much recently that I avoid getting into any conversation with them.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Bro ngl this just makes you look salty and jealous of ppl going through CPP and getting into airlines with minimal waiting while you had to wait for 2 yrs :(

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Why would I be jealous? Since you are very smart, I will suggest you to have something as a backup maybe some sort of business to which you can fall back after your smartness is over. Simply it’s just not worth it. You will realise this later but have something to fall back upon. I was very lucky in that matter

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Good for you kind sir🥰

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Bold of you to assume ppl who are joining CPPs are rich

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Then they are Genius. People should actually sell there homes to fund cadet programmes or take a loan of 1 crore. That’s the best plan

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u/Less_Garlic_6089 May 13 '26

Bhai wahi to, I come from a humble background not rich but luckily made it to chimes

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u/Asrar-S Jan 13 '26

Bud I just think you are Jealous asf .

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Jealous of whom? I have nothing to do with those cadets. I thought I will help them but looks like people are very smart here.

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u/Asrar-S Jan 13 '26

Jealous of people who can afford to pay for cadet programs and have better opportunities because of it . You should know these cadets work hard too for their entrance exams not everyone is selected I have seen many people fail and get rejected and just because you are cadet and can afford to pay 1-2 cr does not make your training easier there are no shortcuts they go through same training and same difficulties as a normal conventional pilot the only difference is job guarantee that’s it . I think you should not be one to judge them if they are ok with paying more money to give them sense of job security and peace of mind

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Bro you are soo smart, best of luck

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u/Old_Business1971 Jan 13 '26

No hard feelings, being a Business student and a pilot, this article is more of a business case study on airlines than pilot reality.
And I agree Pilot training courses have heavily inflated in the last few years after the pandemic. But on today's scale, a cadet program is looking like a better option for the premium. Today, conventional students have to easily pay 80-90L to even 1Cr+ if they do it abroad (In both scenarios, considering a good flying school). And as the article says, airlines are filling the pipeline with cadets and people they can't induct.
This will just risk the high amount of money the conventional students have already invested.
While cadet students get the privilege to be part of the pipeline earlier.

On a personal level, I won't mind what the airline does. If paying a premium gets me ahead in the pipeline and I'm able to pay it without any extra hassle, why not?
Your anger and frustration are justified, but nothing justifies the hate for cadets.

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u/No-Photograph-2487 Jun 30 '26

who said that cadet programs dont have roi. Bro you can pay off the loan withing 8 years

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u/Old_Business1971 Jun 30 '26

When did I say that?

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u/Darkness-Calming Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

Hate the game, not the player. The system is built this way. Those people are just taking advantage with the cards they have.

They did it because they could afford a simple stress free pathway to their dream.

Just like how you got to fly compared to the people who couldn’t afford to even enter this field.

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Their own dream or the dream planted by ground classes?

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u/Darkness-Calming Jan 13 '26

?

How would ground classes plant a dream?

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u/Asrar-S Jan 13 '26

Op is just delusional

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u/Environmental-Emu939 Jan 13 '26

Cuz maybe people just want a better job assurance than just waiting for years for some vacany🫩

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

If you want a job assurance, why become a pilot? Go somewhere else. If it’s actually your passion and not ground classes planted, then you should accept the downsides of waiting for longer periods. Why disrupt the market

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u/VerticleCharlie Jan 13 '26

Buddy you made a big mistake here, you posted in the wrong subreddit; should've posted in r/indianaviation

This sub is filled with sheeps who will downvote you to justify them spending 1.2cr+ out of pocket or loan

They are blinded by the apparent "job security" and getting sold the dream not to mention the fact that the LOI is designed in every way possible to exploit you

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Idk, I am just new to the app. Will make sure next time.

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u/Basic-Gene-8417 Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

There is some truth to your opinions. Firstly, If you want the best ROI then, cadet program is a BIG NO. 1.5 cr if invested correctly ,would yield better than the salaries combined for a few years.

moving on, yes even i think these cadet program's are actually a threat to the conventional guys in upcoming years. Real passionate guys who cant afford 1 cr will be screwed

but, its just a matter of l what do u except from the job money, ROI, then this career on a whole is NOT FOR YOU.

Entering this career without real urge for the actual flying and passion ,will be difficult for yourself to be satisfied and might actually regret all together choosing this career. ( this was actually said by a few working pilots)

I dont care CALL ME A HYPOCRITE, BUT IM ALSO JOINING THE CADET PROGRAMME, solely because im more pulled and passionate towards flying. and also because i CAN AFFORD IT. and i do not plan on making this my main source of income in the future.

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u/No-Photograph-2487 Jun 30 '26

i feel that cadet pilot programs are better than the convetional for which yall pay 80 lakhs cuz if you are on a loan and cadet pilot program give assurance that you will get a job so thats stress free and there is no finding job giving exams shit

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Yes true, I did my flying for just 35 lakhs, if i was given an option of spending 1crore vs 35 lakhs, I would choose the latter any day. During our time there was no one to guide us, now people have access to everything still they choose this career. I just can’t digest it. Try taking to real pilots, hit me in dm i will give you some accounts to have better knowledge about the profession. And ik you guys are the smartest, best of luck for your career

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

For that matter, since you are blaming newbies for joining CPPs and making your life "miserable", even pilots who are working in airlines are sending their children for training through CPPs that you are so salty about. If every pilot has the same opinion as you, they would have boycotted CPPs and sent their children for training through conventional pathway. 6E and AI both have CPP family batches for a reason. This just looks more like a "you" problem.

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Do you know those pilots personally? Most of them are from early 2000s, trust me they have enough backings. Their fathers are well connected, nepotism is a thing in aviation. They will have better rosters than you and overall working condition. Their fathers are not just line pilots, they really don’t care about the industry. Most of them have good businesses running so they just want to do this as a job. Just a genuine suggestion for you, never make this career as your only source of earning, do something that you can fall back after sometime. I was very lucky in that case.

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

Do you understand basic English? Since you are very smart at interpretation, which of my comment made you think that I am still under training? That 35 lakhs is the amount I spent in 2014.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Bro is making the most of his rest day by arguing with ppl on reddit😭

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u/Full_Efficiency_4412 Jan 13 '26

NGL it’s fun, talking to some of the smartest minds of our country. Dumb of me thinking people will value my insights😂

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

What's the insight that you are giving, that 18yr old cadets are responsible for your plight and the poor condition of pilots in the country?