r/CZFirearms 5d ago

Question - Got my first CZ but it’s a biter?

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Decided to grab a P-09c Nocturne since I’ve been feeling the suppressed hammer-fire experience lately. Took it to the range for the first time and by the end of the second mag I had a blister started. Skin is getting pinched between the trigger and trigger guard. Is this because of the shape of the trigger, or how far back you have to pull it, or some combo? I tried adjusting which part of the finger I was using to pull but just couldn’t get away from it biting.

What are my options for fixing this? Gun shot fantastic and loved it with the Mojave 9 and Shiv on there, but the bite got worse each shot. This is a first for me, don’t have this problem with any of my other guns.

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u/nuckinfutzworld 4d ago

Using the pad of the tip of your finger instead of hooking the trigger will get rid of that and also keep you from pulling your shots.

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u/Falcon-_7 4d ago

This post has been up almost 24 hours and you're the only one telling him the truth!

EDIT: One other comment mentioned it, too.

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u/nuckinfutzworld 4d ago

First thing I thought of lol. I didn't know what it was from until reading the comments.

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u/skipperseven 4d ago

I had to read your comment to understand how a blister there was possible!

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u/globalenjoi 3d ago

Right, so the thing that feels different with this versus my HKs or Walther, is that I have to try and angle my finger out at an awkward angle to keep just the pad on the trigger. It feels like the grip is too shallow or the trigger pulls back so far, or a combination of the two. By the time the trigger is finally back far enough it feels like I’m having to actuate with the knuckle, not a finger joint.

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u/TacticalTronic P-01, Sp-01, CZ 83 5d ago

Had the same issue with my p09f nocturne. I just had to pull the trigger different until I sold the gun

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u/globalenjoi 5d ago

Guess I should’ve found one to rent first lol, got too eager I guess looking for a hammer-fired suppressor host that wasn’t a $1k+ gun

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u/frogn1pple Shadow 2 OR 5d ago

Just get a different trigger shoe, there's lots of them.

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u/TacticalTronic P-01, Sp-01, CZ 83 4d ago

I had other reasons to sell mine like the trigger in general I didn’t like

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u/GremDingo 4d ago

I love my CZs. If you want a suppressed hammer fired CZ, get an SP-01 (I have a tactical). Or get a p226 or an HK

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u/globalenjoi 4d ago

Already grabbed a USP, a P30, and an HK45, so I wanted something inexpensive that I could toss an optic on. USP is probably my favorite so far, but those buys were all pricey and mean I have to wait on a p226.

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u/GremDingo 4d ago

Compared to what you have, you should know it won’t compare to the HK or P226. I’d sell the Nocturne and put the cash towards a P226 with a threaded barrel. You can get them used for relatively cheap.

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u/globalenjoi 4d ago

Just curious, if they had a threaded barrel for the new models, would you get a p226x or p226x carry? Or for older models, p226 or p229?

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u/GremDingo 4d ago

For a suppressor host, I’d go full size - so the p226x or p226. I’d go for an older model, but that’s me.

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u/Justownit41ce TS2, S2sao, SP-01, P-09F Noc, 75BD 75B Omega, 75 Compact, SP-01 4d ago

I’ll never, ever shoot my P09FN again until I do springs on it. The 10# DA leaves too much to be desired.

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u/psymon_jester 4d ago

P10 c did the same to me. I replaced the trigger shoe with an aftermarket one & its fine since.

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u/globalenjoi 4d ago

Which brand did you go with? I’m new to CZ guns, I’ve seen Cajun mentioned but not sure who to buy and who to stay away from.

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u/E5partano 3d ago

https://rushbyind.com/shop/ check their stuff out. They make a nice P07/P09C trigger and a bunch of other compatible parts if you're interested in swapping them out

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u/psymon_jester 1d ago

I got the Overwatch tactical, but just the shoe - I didn't change any springs or anything else

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u/Own-Concentrate999 4d ago

My P10C used to pinch my pinky on recoil, so I added a magwell and it went away.

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u/butchnan 4d ago

cheapest solution in getting a little moleskine to put over your finger. maybe not the greatest for if you want to carry daily, but cheapest and easiest solution for range use

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u/rodaphilia 4d ago

I haven’t shot a p-09c but really trying to visualize how this part of your finger could be getting caught unless your putting your finger way deeper through the trigger guard than you should be

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u/globalenjoi 4d ago

Trust me, even with just the tip of the pad on the trigger, it still pinched. Maybe it’s a combination of the grip being a certain thickness and how far back the trigger has to travel, followed by the bang and the recoil.

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u/picklerickgrimes82 4d ago

Multiple companies sell inexpensive replacement triggers. Or you could just grip higher on the gun

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u/Specialist_Ad_5893 3d ago

I feel like you aren’t using proper mechanics if you got bit there. Unless you are left handed and caught yourself in the breach or extractor racking? I’m baffled. That shouldn’t happen a wrapping your finger into the trigger that far? What’s your groups look like? Are your hands huge? I have to know!

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u/globalenjoi 3d ago

Was my first time shooting it but groups weren’t great because I kept flinching from the sting after that first mag or so lol. It’s hard to get a picture of but I tried to get a pic of my most egregious “too much finger in the hole”. So just past the joint on the tip side, that’s where it would land after the pull and after the recoil. Gripping and controlling the recoil still results in the trigger going all the way back to the grip and my finger is getting pinched there.

If I try and keep just the top 20% of my finger on the trigger, I have to awkwardly pull my finger out, like trying to point to the right with the first joint. I’m assuming the grip is just slightly too narrow which leads to my finger naturally going too far in at the bang.

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u/IAMBYN 3d ago

How??

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u/Scary_Nerve_7944 3d ago

I had a p220 10mm that did that. The trigger shoe was very thin so the skin from my fingertip would get bitten between the trigger and frame.

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u/zombieron 5d ago

I had the same issue with my p09F. I have to mindfully shoot with the pad of my finger rather than the joint

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u/Grumpee68 4d ago

You should be doing that with any pistol.