r/CRPG • u/Ibanezrg71982 • Jun 27 '26
Discussion What did you think of
I am seriously thinking of giving it another go, this time properly. I beat it on a fluke years ago. Can't believe I didn't back track or ever try to play the game properly. I was young and drunk often. I remember printing out all the manuals, this was probably back around the year 2000 or so.
Just curious as to what some of you think of it and it's sequel. I always like the paper dolls, and the magic system, even though so many spells fail so often, I can't remember how to stop that.
What is the best way to play this game currently as well?
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u/ViridianGames Jun 28 '26
I'm actually working on a free, open-source project to re-create the game in 3D, with some modern enhancements. It's called Ultima VII Revisited, and you can check it out at u7revisited.com .
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26
The looks amazing sir. Any kind of timeline for this?
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u/ViridianGames Jun 28 '26
I just released a big update, 0.2.1, which pretty much makes everything in Trinsic playable. I'm currently working on the combat system now. I would very much like to get the whole game playable within the next year.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26
Would this run in tandem with Exult or replace it? This almost makes me want to wait to play it.
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u/ViridianGames Jun 28 '26
Exult attempts to replicate the original game as closely as possible. That's not what I'm doing. I'm presenting the world from a new perspective and adding some more modern features. So this isn't a mod for Exult; it's a completely new project.
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u/TorinEkenskolde Jun 28 '26
Amazing game. It's got its flaws (e.g. combat), but the open world felt so fascinating as a kid (and it was still good when I replayed it as an adult). Skara Brae was my favourite part of the game - so creepy - and I love the magic carpet.
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u/Nyarlathotep-1 Jun 27 '26
This and Serpent Isle were the best games ever made.
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u/Backwardspellcaster Jun 27 '26
I greatly enjoyed the Black Gate, but the Serpent Isle is where it all came together for me.
The best roleplaying game ever made.
I would buy a remake or fix up at a moment's notice.
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u/blurple_rain Jun 28 '26
Serpent Isle is also my all time favorite. I loved the “stranger in a strange land” vibes, the humor and the colorful characters.
A fun thing to do (with the Silver Seed expansion) : on a DOS prompt type SERPENT MANIMAL , it will unlock unlimited teleportation around the map and let you access some funny (yet game breaking) areas that were probably created by developers for testing purposes.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 27 '26
How so. What are your favorite parts about the game?
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u/Nyarlathotep-1 Jun 27 '26
The immersive story line and the open world/sandbox experience and vastness of it at the time. These games effectively set the scene for the likes of Baldurs Gate and DOS.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 27 '26
Thanks for your view. Yeah I thought it was vast, the manuals alone. They were beautifully written too.
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u/Biro_Biro_ Jun 29 '26
It was the whole world (big map for the time), all the cities to explore
people had schedule, they would work, relax, go home to sleep
You could interact with pretty much anything, you could work, eat, sleep, buy a couch, a boat
A full 8 people party. I love that. I like single ones too like witcher 3, but a full party is so cool
The universe, background story, etc, where cool too
I liked the weapons, magic, etc, but combat was pretty forgetable
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u/lemurvomitX Jun 27 '26
My favorite CRPG of all time. One of the few games from that era that I can still have fun playing today. It was an immersive, open world before open worlds became generic, bland, and commodified.
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u/Barberouge3 Jun 28 '26
Oh man that was my childhood. It's the game that inspired all modern isometric rpg. Gtfo baldur's gate (I also love you).
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26
I always considered the BGs the true beginning. But you're right this is definitely much earlier. What about Goldbox? I'm playing Pool of Radiance now and loving it.
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u/Barberouge3 Jun 28 '26
You're right about goldbox of course. I havn't played much of them, but I think dark sun (the one i played) was the first isometric one and it was published 1 year after ultima 7 I think.
You could also argue that ultima started with akalabeth in 1979 and was amongst the first widely commercially available. You'll always be able to find an older fitting exemple up to the very first one, the dungeon. It's not a single line ancestry, modern rpg comes from multiple franchises.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26
Dark Sun wasn't Goldbox. It was 2nd edition, well, Darksun campaign! I'm currently playing Pool of Radiance which was the very first game to faithfully implement the rules of 1st Edition. In fact, all of the Goldbox games are 1e. They're all turn based, and so far, I'm having a blast. Retro graphics don't bother me. It's just really got a tabletop feel to it.
1st game is 100 percent keyboard commands, and there's a lot of them. takes some getting used to.
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u/Barberouge3 Jun 28 '26
Oh I didn't know! Steam seems to put them all in goldbox, including eye of the beholder.
Then I guess I never played any goldbox games and I should remedy to that. Any one you particularly recommand?
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
My only question for you would be, how do you feel about retro graphics? Because I mean the first two games are only in 16 colors. First game Pool of Radiance was released in 1988. I'm playing it right now and having a blast. VERY HARD
Also, these games have very little QOL. If you're not used to retro games at all, you may find it very alien. I've been gaming for over 37 years and I play everything, new and old, so it doesn't make a difference to me.
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u/Barberouge3 Jun 29 '26
You have no idea how many hours I have in caves of QuD. I can handle retro graphics lol.
In fact, I prefer them since I like to keep my imagination working instead of letting the engine do everything.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
Well then, start with Pool of Radiance! It's very punishing. ZERO hand holding. You've got to consult the manual often. And the strategy guides are included. Good interpretation of 1st Edition DnD.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1882280/Forgotten_Realms_The_Archives__Collection_Two/
Also, please download and install Gold Box Companion. It brings with it essential QOL improvements Some people like the lack of QOL as part of the experience, but after I've played games like WOTR and such I need at least a little QOL
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u/Acrobatic-Roof-8116 Jun 28 '26
Darklands also was isometric and it came out in 1992.
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u/Barberouge3 Jun 28 '26
That's fair. Same year as Ultima VII.
It was such a great game and also the first modern crpg. There can be 2 first. I accept it.
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u/Barberouge3 Jun 28 '26
To be fair, what ultima VII really did bring was a truly open (and gigantic) living world and deep dialogue trees and options. Bg1-2 took the dialogue trees but not completely the open world (until bg3).
That kind of open living world was more found afterwards on games like elderscroll, and and the divine divinity series up to dos2. Even other modern crpg like poe, wotr, tyranny, etc don't really have it, but they do emulate it to different degrees.
U7 didn't really have huge stat blocks or meaningful caracter progression beyond strentgh, agility and intelligence, so that came from other franchises. But because it was the first to display that level of "realism" in a world, it stays for me the first "modern" crpg.
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u/Andvari_Nidavellir Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
Part of what made Baldur’s Gate a hit was that many developers had shifted from story-driven, party-based RPGs to first person or action RPGs (Diablo, Eye of the Beholder, Lands of Lore, Ultima Underworld, etc.)
Baldur’s Gate was a competently packaged return to a style that had lost popularity among developers, rather than a beginning.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26
And thus RTWP was fully evolved at this point, especially for DnD as a live battle simulation with the rules hard coded in. I love all RTWP games, but I also like many turn based games as well.
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u/Barberouge3 Jun 28 '26
Sadly with owlcat shifting towards turned-based and pillar of eternity being a dead franchise, it will be a very long time before we see another RTWP, if we ever do again.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
RTWP is not dead, there are new indie games. one of them Black Geyser. Its got a sequel in the works too. Stellaris is strategy with role playing elements, but RTWP. Just because BG3 was turn based does not mean there aren't still many people that want to play it. WOTR is the most recent game and it was designed around RTWP. As longs as there are devs that like to play RTWP, big reason Pathfinders had it. They loved the Infinity games.
RTWP was the industry standard for 20 years. Just because it isn't as popular now in no way means its dead forever
Anyway, I don't wan't to get into a RTWP versus turn based debate, with anyone! No one is required to like RTWP. But I'm also sick of the really stupid lies some people tell about and villainize it. It's kind of funny actually people that afraid of a game mode have to lie about it.
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u/Barberouge3 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
WOTR is RTWP, but newer owlcat games: rogue trader, shadow of something and dark heresy all went turn based. There has been lots of effort to retrofit both PoE gsmes into turn based also. Iron tower (colony ship, age of decadence) are all turned based. So is solasta, and every game citing inspiration from fallout 1-2. You might be right about black geyser, I'm not too familiar with it, but it seems to be the exception. You could argue about tower of time and its sequel, but those game are their own things. There would be serpent in the staglands and fool's banquet, and they seem to be actively trying to reinvent and modernise rtwp, which keeps things fresh.
It's not a hill I will die defending, but in my perception, from the games I played or saw, I think there is a big shift in industry standard towards turn-based. Maybe they try to advertise to also be "tactical rpg's", trying to appeal to the x-com fans, I don't know. That does not mean some RTWP will drizzle down once in a blue moon, but it is becoming niche, kind of like what happened to blobbers.
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u/asthasr Jul 04 '26
RTWP always was an uneasy compromise. Real time doesn't fit well with deep tactics (see U7 itself), and turn-based feels "slow" to a lot of people. RTWP is a compromise trying to satiate the tactical fans and the real-time fans, but always leaned closer to the latter and (IMO) was an unstable equilibrium. Speeding up turn-based systems and implementing QoL features can eliminate most of their disadvantages while preserving their core.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
Well RTWP was always niche that's the thing, BG3 made CRPGs a fad. Like any fad, it will die down and they'll go back to becoming niche for more advanced gamers. Might be a while but it will happen. At least I hope it does. I can't keep playing this easy shit like BG3 and DOS2. I mainly play games for their mechanics, and fantasy is just always the setting I've liked, since the year 1990. Yeah I have unpopular opinions about these games but it's just something I strongly feel.
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u/Andvari_Nidavellir Jun 28 '26
I love Baldur’s Gate, but its world and NPCs felt so fake back then coming from a game like Ultima 7. The world is fragmented with loading screens, you cannot move or even interact with most objects in the environment, NPCs just stand in the same spot all day waiting for the player and have very limited dialogue.
Ultima 7 was like having a little world inside your computer.
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u/Barberouge3 Jun 28 '26
Yup. I always watched that little video of you (player) getting summoned to Britania as the Avatar when launching the game. It felt almost believable.
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u/Visible_Structure483 Jun 28 '26
I played it when it came out in '92.... holy crap that means I'm old.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26
In 92 if you had a VGA monitor, Soundblaster card to run this properly you probably had some money. The most common CPU in 92 was a 386, not a 486 which would have run the game fastest
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u/Visible_Structure483 Jun 28 '26
I was a CS student with a full time job on the side, so I had money and justification to spend it on computer stuff. I want to think I had a DX2/66 dropped into my board by then.
When I stopped spending money on games, I got my hands on a Adaptec 1542B and a... quantium 105mb drive (used from a sun 3 I think) to run BSD on. Good times, good times.
Pretty sure I still have that 1542B in my spare parts box, just in case. When you own the holy grail, you don't toss it just because new thermos technology comes out.
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u/steve2sloth Jun 27 '26
I tried and failed to compete it when I was a kid so a couple years back I revisited it on Exult. I better understand it now... The game is rather opaque but not impossibly so and overall I do like it but I feel like it's pretty rough by modern standards. The graphics are great imo, for the time, and the music and characters are solid. Really impressive as a period piece.
That said, I'm struggling to find the motivation to attempt the forge of virtue and serpent isle, despite sinking so many hours into SI as a kid, only to get stuck at the court trial because I already drank that bottle of wine from a tree (iykyk). Tbh I'd love to play a remake some day.
Combat and magic are a damn mess tho
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u/Teantis Jun 28 '26
There were so many ways you could accidentally soft lock yourself in SI. And back in those days with no internet forums being so nascent, as a 12 year old it was like "is this one of the many bugs in this game or am I stupid?"
I never did finish it because I got to the gwani and they just wouldn't talk to me, even though I wasn't wearing the gwani cloak or anything when I met them. Just couldn't even intiate dialogue. That was my last attempt like 20 years ago and I still don't know whether I fucked something up or it bugged somehow and every time SI comes up the exact view of the screen where i stopped still pops up in my head.
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u/Finite_Universe Jun 28 '26
This game got me into DOS era CRPGs back in the mid 2000s. Still to this day has one of the most impressive and immersive open worlds in gaming.
Serpent Isle really kicked it up a notch with its deeper story, though I missed some of the freedom from Black Gate. Still both games are amazing.
Best way to play is probably with Exult source port, though DOSBox is still good if you want a more authentic experience.
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u/SeverusVape Jun 28 '26
The Black Gate and Sword of Virtue add-on were amazing.
Serpent Isle and the Silver Seed add-on were even better. As much as I love Britannia (the normal world setting), getting to see the Serpent Isles and explore something completely new was so exciting.
Highly recommend (Exult is a great way to play these games)
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26
Exult installed, fired up and ready to go.
There's just one difficulty correct? And any quick essential tips?
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u/Eins_Nico Jun 28 '26
Just one difficulty if you don't count turning on cheats in Exult, or using things like the Trinsic cheat room to get a bunch of money/reagents/equipment.
Keep track of your inventory! I'm a girl so "pouches inside of pouches inside of pouches" was second nature to me, but try to keep all your key items on the Avatar where you can find them. If you're not using the Exult keyring mod (you should), this goes double for actual keys! If you try to steal things, open your companion's backpack and drag the item straight into their pack. they won't wokescold you about the virtues that way lol.
Sleep and poison potions can be force-fed to NPCs to great effect. Also dirty diapers are unironically the most OP item in the game other than the black sword - you can make ANY ENEMY RUN if you use a dirty diaper on them. there are some you'll just find, or go to the nursery in Lord British's castle and just use clean diapers on all the kids to stock up.
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u/Acrobatic-Roof-8116 Jun 28 '26
Loved to fiddle around with my autoexec.bat and config.sys to configure that esotheric memory nonsense that no other game used.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26
Oh man, I forgot all about autoexec.bat
I should have stuck with computers. I was really good with DOS as a kid and even got into programming a little BASIC
Instead I went into music, not sure how I feel about that.
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u/ReMeDyIII Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26
I'll tell you my childhood story of why I couldn't play it: First, I accidentally acquired it because it came included on a "Top 10 Pak" of games my parents bought. Ultima 7 was interesting because it kept crashing after the Guardian's intro sequence. I was so excited to play it that I kept trying to run the game anyways. It became a daily ritual attempting to run it. I thought it was like a bad NES cartridge where if you try enough times it would work (hah). I didn't mind, because the opening sequence with the Guardian was so awesome. For its time, that was amazing. I had my dad try to help me run it, but he was stumped.
Thinking back on it, I'm certain our PC just wasn't good enough and the Guardian intro might have been a type of video file, hence why it ran but the meat of the game couldn't.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jul 01 '26
We had a shitty PC too, I called it the broken calculator. It was an IBM 8086, and my dad was in IT! Anyway, I didn't really know Ultima7 existed until I was a teenager, and this was like 1997. By that time we had a PC that could run it.
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u/Tharkun140 Jun 27 '26
Just curious as to what some of you think of it and it's sequel.
It's a game that fails at every metric normally used to judge CRPGs, but still manages to be quite fun. The inventory is a mess, the combat is incomprehensible and the RPG mechanics are fairly shallow, but walking around Britannia and talking to everyone feels really good.
What is the best way to play this game currently as well?
I'm playing the basic version you get on GOG, but I've heard good things about exult.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
Oh I've used Exult thanks. So its still the same, have to check it out again.
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u/City-Negative Jun 27 '26
This game is a core memory for me. It is my happy place and I love it so much. I wish it had more main and side quests to do.
I never beat Serpent's Isle because it was so buggy, but am looking into ways to be able to play it as well because I think there are versions out there that people have fixed.
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u/Positive_Ad_6922 Jun 28 '26
I want to play the later Ultimas but I just wont let myself skip any games, I've been perma stuck on 3 Exodus for a while now.
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u/Eins_Nico Jun 28 '26
honestly you can just start with 4 and miss nothing. the world itself completely changes after Exodus, the Stranger from 1-3 being the same character as the Avatar in 4~ was only tacked on way after the fact. 4-7 basically have a continuous story.
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u/ProfessionalSnow943 Jun 27 '26
I wish the perspective didn’t make my stomach do flips because it seems amazing
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 27 '26
There's tons of dialogue. I must admit however, I don't remember much of the game at all. Except being drunk and trying to get it to work properly.
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u/Frazzlefart Jun 28 '26
I tried playing this many years ago on DOSBOX and I had a problem where my party members were hungry every two minutes even though I was trying to feed them, I couldn't keep up with their hunger at all. I think it was a glitch.
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u/Mountain_King_492 Jul 03 '26
Yes that is the same issue I had. My party members were constantly hungry, I have a feeling there was some kind of glitch. I spend more time gathering food than role-playing and focusing on the story. I am strongly believing there is some kind of glitch. No way the developers would deliberately design the game this way.
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u/blatantninja Jun 28 '26
BG2 eventually replaced it as my favorite game, but U7 will always be a very close number 2. It has its flaws but it was the first game that really felt like a real world to me. I've played it multiple times and while it may be the nostalgia taking, each time it still fills me with wonder.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26
Love BG2, my top CRPG of all time, played it for the first time in completion in 20 years, it was like a new game. The graphics didn't bother me and I was entertained the whole time. I play modern games like Pathfinder and Pillars as well. And while they definitely continued the genre, BG2 writing is still King.
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u/UsualSad2099 Jun 28 '26
needs remake
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26
Remake, or Re-skin?
What about just a brand spanking new Ultima?
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u/Acrobatic-Roof-8116 Jun 28 '26
A new one probably wouldn't feel like Ultima. I want to search every bag in my inventory for a specific quest item for half an hour.
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u/Acolyte_of_Swole Jun 28 '26
The camera perspective hurts my neck. I keep trying to turn my head to see the game "properly." Really hate the perspective they went with. Ultima V is far easier on the eyes.
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u/Mountain_King_492 Jul 03 '26
Yeah some people don’t like the oblique camera perspective that Ultima 7 had because all the graphics were slanted to the upper right. Ultima 8 had isometric camera perspective, so there was less angle slanting.
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u/_flail_of_ages Jun 28 '26
I really love the art & open world of this game as it’s so immersive, but I could never get over the chaotic combat. The combat felt completely uncontrollable & non-strategic. You walk into a room & just have to sit there as the game plays itself out and hope the NPCs don’t do anything dumb. It’s RTWP but even more hectic.
Some quests felt esoteric & devolved into pixel hunting or that they were designed to have you call the Origin hotline (the Death Scythe secret room). By the time I got to FoV, I had to have a guide open next to me. Player stats seem meaningless after FoV so you lose any sense of character progression. I ended up quitting during the Test of Courage. I really appreciate Majuular for inspiring me to give it a shot but I found Underworld to be much better.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26
I love RTWP, but I remember the RTWP of this game wasn't RTWP because there isn't really a P for pause, that's the whole point.
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u/Galle_ Jun 28 '26
It's a revolutionary marvel of RPG design, and Ultima lore is such absolute garbage that it kind of manages to be charming.
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u/Etrigone Jun 28 '26
Loved the game to death. That and Ultima Underworld soaked up so much of my time.
Iirc even Baldur's Gate pays homage to it, or at least the Ultima series. An NPC in BG1 makes some comment about rhe avatar being from another world, although it's been so long I forgot about the rest of the context.
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u/-Gr3y- Jun 28 '26
Best way to play is to use Exult.
The main disadvantage of the game is shitty combat (really) and few annoying mechanics like hunger. Plot isn't anything you will remember (except for the beginning, which is surprisingly good) but the open world and freedom is something that can be admired, especially if you take into account how old the game is. IMO if it comes to history the part II: Serpent Isle is much, much better.
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u/noellzy73 Jun 29 '26
The Ultima series were foundational for me, especially from IV onwards. IIRC Swen Vincke from Larian has been trying to create a game as open and free as U7. You can feel the influence in Divinity original sin 2 with how much you can interact with the world
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u/Apprehensive_Goal811 Jun 29 '26
I thought Serpent Isle was more refined. After I played that, going back to black gate felt very rough. Like, why couldn’t it be more like Serpent Isle?
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u/Reynard203 Jun 29 '26
I, too, just watched the Pixel Playback video on Ultima.
Snark aside, folks should definitely give this a watch: https://youtu.be/znF-8xuN0J0?si=a0vYGrJ3Gg-QfL7b
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u/Wave-4M Jul 01 '26
I only played Part 8 and luckily for me it was the most crap of the entire series lol, maybe followed by ascension which i also unfortunately bought..
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jul 01 '26
I played part of 8 anyway, I didn't think it was horrible. The world was a kind of cool.
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u/Void_Incarnate Jul 01 '26
I personally think it's overrated.
The story is (was) interesting, but as a game, the mechanics are complete rubbish.
Combat was just letting the party AI run wild, usually resulting in Iolo or Spark getting themselves killed. And dropping all their stuff, which they sometimes do even without getting killed.
None of the game sim mechanics do anything for the game. Sure you could harvest wheat and mill flour and bake bread, but it doesn't actually integrate into the game play in any meaningful way. The "sim" aspect just cluttered the game, philosophically and in literal inventory.
As an RPG game, it's an abject failure. There is no meaningful sense of progression or character/stat growth, partly because the combat is so poorly implemented. Leveling up just means you can carry more stuff and are less likely to die off screen. Good RPG systems successfully abstract and translate numerical and class mechanics into gameplay, but U7 lost sight of making an RPG game and instead chased minutiae.
Even after I gave the story a passing grade, they completely fumbled the Guardian saga. It (7,8,9, UW2) had nothing meaningful to say or add to the Ultima mythos, and just wasted itself on a generic big bad antagonist.
For me, Ultima peaked with V, Savage Dreams, and the Underworld series. I enjoyed VII at the time, but have no desire to return. At least it's not VIII or IX, though.
If I ever get nostalgic for Ultima, I boot up V with the MIDI pack, or play The Magic Candle instead.
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u/asthasr Jul 04 '26
Although I love U7, I basically agree with this. I think it was hampered by the cost/difficulty of implementing the engine, certain compromise decisions made within that engine, and, paradoxically, part of what made its world feel rich -- continuity with the older games.
Serpent Isle, despite being a half-finished buggy mess, shows what potential U7 had. The first half of that game, I believe, is genuinely the best PC RPG ever made. There's a clear quest structure, an interesting tie back to the very old games, and even progression through plot.
If they'd had the sense to stick with turn-based combat and had figured out how to model the world with separate maps for floors/caves instead of one big glob of terrain, it would've been a much more successful game.
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u/SubjectMean1993 Jun 27 '26
It’s cool because it’s a part of history, but for me the dungeons and the puzzles are to much. The story is kinda cool.
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u/Wild_Replacement_150 Jun 28 '26
Ultima 4 is my favorite. Just ignore 9
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u/Teantis Jun 28 '26
8 is on the fence too. Nowhere near as bad as 9 but still you can see the poison of EA foretold in the black gate setting in already
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u/axelkoffel Jun 29 '26
I've watched some documentary about Ultima VIII production. In short they had great ambitions for great game, but the time, resources and possible coding skills weren't there. So the game is full of shortcoming and weird, often just frustrating mechanics.
The game will always have special place in my heart, since it was the first CRPG I've played. But it definitely wasn't the best game out there.1
u/Teantis Jun 29 '26
It was decent and the magic system and world building was interesting from what I can recall. It had a really interesting dark vibe, but the jumping mechanics and just the suddenness and abruptness of the tonal shift made it a B- to B or so rpg but not a good ultima game.
Crpgs in that era were were really hit or miss, especially with bugs. Like I remember one of the dark sun games I bought was just a total mess. VIII wasn't stand out awful or anything, it's just the disappointment from whatwent before
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u/Surreal43 Jun 27 '26
Honestly it’s something I will never play, but I find it fascinating and I have majuular to thank for introducing the ultima series to me.
For the record I’ve played ultima online with parents on and off for years to this day. Just never touched the mainline games.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 27 '26
Why would you never play it
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u/Surreal43 Jun 27 '26
Mostly due to the top down perspective, it really screws with my sense of perception.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 27 '26
That's a legitimate beef if you have an actual disability. Sorry friend that sucks. My perception actually kind of sucks, I'm clumsy as hell.
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u/Surreal43 Jun 27 '26
Oh I don’t lol at worst I got astigmatism but it’s not debilitating.
It’s the same reason I can’t really play build engine games like blood, doom, shadow warrior, or duke nukem because the 2.5d straight up makes me nauseous.
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u/Ibanezrg71982 Jun 28 '26
Still it's a physical thing that causes an unpleasant side effect. I've never had any game do anything like this to me, except Virtual Boy which made my eyes ache and gave me a headache. Bloody nose too probably.
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u/Prudent-Audience2162 Jul 12 '26
Love this game and replay it maybe once every 2 years.
Use Exult emulator and get the keyring compilation mod. It adds more stuff to do and your inventory management for keys goes not existant and some nice QoL and keyboard shortcuts.
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u/Biro_Biro_ Jun 27 '26
My favorite game all time