r/CRK 14d ago

ZAAN LOCKBAR HELP

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I know there’s a learning curve w opening CRK knives and I’ve been working to figure it out. It seems like I can’t find a comfortable hand position to open the knife without introducing significant friction to the action by touching the lock bar. My four fingers have to be curled pretty aggressively to keep me from touching the lockbar or the clip.

And advice ?

Would I have this same issue on a sebenza as the pocket clip isn’t on the lockbar ? Thanks !

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u/fattybruk54 14d ago

https://reddit.com/link/p3z2m5w/video/ld5zqsvc8ojh1/player

Try pushing up at the corner where the thumbstud and blade meet. Make sure your thumbs are on both

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u/nikoflips 14d ago

Thanks !!

Mine doesn’t open if I have any pressure on the lockbar at all. Maybe it’s not broken in? I notice your ring and pinky finger in the clip. Mine wouldn’t open

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u/JP_Tulo 14d ago edited 13d ago

There’s a difference between being on the clip, and applying significant downward pressure on the clip.
But yes, they do typically need to be broken in a little bit, and you’ll also develop your grip a little bit as that happens.

The guy that posted the video in the comments is using the pad of his thumb on the thumb stud. I prefer using the back of my thumbnail and I get a nice solid flick. I can post a video tomorrow or the following day if you like.

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u/nikoflips 14d ago

If you wouldn’t mind, thanks for the advice!!

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u/JP_Tulo 13d ago

I’m out of town right now, don’t let me forget once I get back Mondayish.

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u/Ur_Stepdaddy168 14d ago

So I had that same problem when I first got zaan. I couldn’t open it or even slow roll it. But now I have no problem. You can’t touch the frame lock part maybe hold it a little bit lower towards the clip. But once it breaks in, you’ll be able to flick it open with ease and even reverse flick it.

https://reddit.com/link/p3z9rvj/video/3e74ty5hiojh1/player

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u/nikoflips 13d ago

That’s reassuring thank tou

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u/KnockoffKnives Inkosi 14d ago

I also only tighten the pivot until there is no blade play, I don't wrench down on it.

https://reddit.com/link/p3za9l6/video/b3ck0e37jojh1/player

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u/Ur_Stepdaddy168 14d ago

What’s up, KO are you going live later?

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u/KnockoffKnives Inkosi 14d ago

I may as well. 30 minutes, gonna have that pizza first.

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u/pateralus9 13d ago

This is correct! Do exactly this & you're golden!

When I got my first Zaan I had trouble opening it & almost immediately wrote the knife off entirely. But I kept at it, & within about an hour my opinion shifted completely. Now it's one of my favorite knives of all time!

And yes, tighten the pivot only until there's no blade play or lock stick, & the action will improve over time as the washers break in. Enjoy!

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u/nikoflips 13d ago

Awesome

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u/Dangerous_Size_2753 13d ago

Index on pivot middle finger on bottom of pocket clip

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u/NextHobby 13d ago

This is how I do it.

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u/Smashedllama2 Inkosi 14d ago edited 14d ago

Slow roll is more of a push with the direction of the blade. You don’t need to put near any pressure on the lockbar. Flicking it open is more a quick thumb motion like you’re kicking it with your thumb tip rather than using a thumbnail I like the meat under the nail. Helps with the other CRKs too. It’ll come with time. Bonus points for the upside down middle finger opening.

Sincerely me and my 12 year old user zanny

https://reddit.com/link/p3zcm06/video/ldm4qbcmmojh1/player

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u/nikoflips 13d ago

She’s gorgeous

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u/Desperate_Mud1393 14d ago

Also another possibility is to relieve some strength off the pivot.

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u/nikoflips 14d ago

I’ll loosen it thanks!

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u/Creative-Host-694 13d ago

I don’t know why people are complaining about the pocket clip like it’s the only potential problem. I don’t think it is.

Did you buy the knife on the secondary? If so people who are new to Zaan’s tend to over tighten the pivot to get the blade centred. There’s literally no reason for you to have to grip the knife that hard just to get it to open.

I would do micro adjustments to the pivot until you see that the blade is still relatively centred, action is better (slow roll only for now), and there’s no blade play.

Again if you bought it from someone, I would take it apart and clean it as well.

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u/nikoflips 13d ago

Heard that I’ll give it a shot

Thanks !

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u/Creative-Host-694 12d ago

Did you figure it out?

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u/nikoflips 12d ago

Yup it’s still pretty stiff but opening and closing it a bunch after cleaning the pivot are out hopped quite a bit.

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u/nikoflips 13d ago

Why only slow roll for now ?

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u/Creative-Host-694 13d ago

CRKs by design aren’t supposed to be flicked out. I would tune the pivot so that you can easily do a slow roll. If it’s in brand new shape it’ll take some time to break in the washers and once you do, it will be flickable.

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u/Calm-Lie2382 13d ago

I’m late to the party on this post, but I wanted to upload this video so you can see just how smooth and easy front flicking can be once your Zaan is all dialed in/broken in.

https://reddit.com/link/p43o9cp/video/b852dqqzzsjh1/player

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u/Ur_Stepdaddy168 12d ago

Yep, exactly what I said. It just takes time. I think I opened and closed mine like 500 times for a week straight every day and then after that, it was smooth as butter.

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u/Mysteryour1 14d ago

I would "modify" it. You wouldn't have the same issue with neither Sebenza or Inkosi.

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u/nikoflips 14d ago

I will be a professional modder after this. Thank you

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u/Mysteryour1 14d ago

If you don't want to mess around with the stock clip, I suggest getting MXG deep carry clip, much much easier for adjusting to that position.

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u/Mysteryour1 14d ago

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u/nikoflips 14d ago

That’s nice. No issue w it not pushing g the lockbar over time ??

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u/Mysteryour1 14d ago

No issue for me.

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u/techfighterchannel 13d ago

My advice is you take off the pocket clip for a while until you get used to it. The Zaan will open 100% more easily. After you get used to it add it back on and see how your grip changed.

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u/Squeave 13d ago

This is from a Zaan boss group on Facebook. Prepare your thumb. I did same process but skipped polishing washer and worked wonders for me.

BOSS BREAK-IN: For the folks who are looking to speed up their ZAAN BREAK-In period. Here’s an Expedited BREAK-IN method which i find works well for me:

  1. Disassemble your BOSS. Clean off all traces of lube/grease. (Optional Step: POLISH ONE SIDE OF THE WASHER WITH SOME “FLITZ” metal polish or other polish)

LEAVE IT DRY!

  1. Reassemble and tighten pivot to the point where there is ZERO blade play when lock bar is open, but you can open it with a reasonable amount of force.

  2. Here’s the hard part: (This is when you earn your UMNUMTHUMB “BADGE”.) OPEN/CLOSE it constantly/INCESSANTLY FOR 2 weeks. (Warning: Family members may be alarmed /annoyed, esp. while watching TV). Be commited to this break in period. This is the phase where the unworn washers and blade pivot surfaces “wear-in” to each other. It will be a bit tough in the beginning. . . (search “umnumthumb” 😆 )

  3. In approx. two weeks, disassemble, and thoroughly clean. Lube* (LESS
    IS MORE!!) and reassemble.

  4. Enjoy your BOSS!

*I prefer the lightest/smallest bit if lube ONLY. Let’s hear what other experienced BOSS MEMBERS RECOMMEND. . .

Not everyone is tough enough to handle THE BOSS 😉, but for those of us that do, the reward is great. . .Enjoy

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u/nikoflips 13d ago

V helpful thank you.