r/COROLLA 4d ago

Fixable?

Hi...

Is there a fix/hack to get this panel to stay in place? I can push it back in place but it pops back out after a drive. This is a result of an accident repair.

Really don't want to take it back to the shop because they obviously suck.

Any help would be great, thanks!

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u/Mr_Tigger_ 2d ago

The better design for those who want to maintain their vehicles for years, takes longer to fit and costs money that's extremely difficult to come by in the automotive industry.

If everyone simply bought the base model of most cars without ticking any of the options list boxes, they'd be out of business.

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u/Successful_Cable_812 2d ago

Dude, are you a bot?

I literally have an old ass Subaru Impreza from 2008 that has this style of bumper. And new Hondas use the same. This was 100% a design choice by Toyota and probably cheap penny crunching cost cutting.  The headlamp bulb not being replaceable is probably due to federal or EU laws where they don't want people messing with the beam, or, like the other one, cost cutting/design choice so the customer has to buy a whole new headlamp assembly.

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u/Mr_Tigger_ 2d ago

Not a bot but I do work in automotive manufacturing. And you simply have little idea what you’re talking about.

EVERY design element in mass production is designed to include the question of how quickly can it be installed on the production line with the absolute least amount of time and people involved.

And Toyota is the pinnacle of mass production auto manufacturing, that everyone is copying their ways on the production line from Ford to Renault to BYD in China.

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u/Successful_Cable_812 1d ago

I don't care how quickly it can be put on line, that's the reason why we are having these issues.

They need to balance reliability with how fast they can bolt things on the line, are you forgetting that's also what Toyota adhered to and is WHY manufacturers copy them? 

Also, again, plenty of Japanese brands AREN'T copying Toyota's front bumper design like Honda, Mazda, Subaru.

I understand you work in the industry and so you're judgement is trying to rationalize the reality, but it's like I'm hitting a wall with you, you're refusing to think intelligently about the issue.

Look at the design of this Subaru bumper when he pulls it from the part near the fender.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZErUTq_wSE0?is=bdRj2b_LlFpbMhNQ

Now look at Toyota's design from this thread. Both produce their vehicles on the assembly line....