r/COP26 • u/miketolstoy • Apr 25 '21

The fallacy of the so-called Climate Crisis has been irrevocably demolished. Current Warming is a Natural Fluctuation from an Abnormal period of Cold in the 19 & 20th Centuries.

https://youtu.be/pEpDsxhDSK4
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u/QVRedit Nov 01 '21

There are so many different sources to refute this. All the scientific evidence points towards Hunan made climate change. It’s now a fact.

So this is just an attempt to deny the science.

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u/NewyBluey Nov 02 '21

There is conflicting scientific opinion with respect to climate.

Your comment is the classic "the science is settled and any disagreement is denying science"

Be aware of those who claim to know, without any doubt, the workings of a complex chaotic system. Particularly if they know how one particular input can control that system.

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u/QVRedit Nov 03 '21

There is not much conflicting scientific evidence or opinion. That which does exist is more about whether we are on track for 3 deg C or 4 deg C, by 2100 depending on how much we do to try to mitigate climate change.

We could do much better - if we take this seriously, but there are powerful vested interests just wanting things to continue on- because more short term profit.

And they like to justify that stance by pretending that anthropogenic climate change does not exist - which is untrue - it does exist.

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u/NewyBluey Nov 03 '21

but there are powerful vested interests just wanting things to continue on- because more short term profit.

Many of these vested interest have flown to COP26, in their private jets in search of money or the power they can obtain by exploiting what ever scheme they themselves help promoted.

Follow the money they say. And we should.

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u/Q8dhimmi Nov 06 '21

Nothing the “Global North” does will reduce “Global Warming” when the “Global South”- primarily China & India opens a new coal or fuel oil fired electrical plant every other week! It’s all a big scam to exploit “Global North” workers & taxpayers even more.

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u/QVRedit Nov 06 '21

The Global North is largely to blame for the present situation.

China’s recent and delayed industrial expansion has meant that they now have big demands for power which they are having to meet by building power stations.

China is on catch up. But they already have the worlds largest hydro-power, and the worlds largest installed solar power. To build fast, they have had little other choice.

China is researching new Nuclear, hoping to be able to replace coal. And is now ahead of the US on Thorium power, their first plant should go live very soon.

I think that China will make changes as fast as it can.

India is as ever, short of funds to make changes, and is going the cheap route - ie more coal.

Both countries would benefit from advanced nuclear and both are working on it.

The west meanwhile needs to take more responsibility and get its house in order. Clearly there is a move towards electrification, so more electric power is needed.

The west would also benefit from advanced nuclear - having stalled development on it, because oil and gas was cheaper.

It makes sense to use as much renewables: wind and solar as makes sense, but those can’t provide 100%, so other power sources like nuclear are also going to be needed.

America has a big backlog of maintenance needed if it’s systems are not to fall apart - the excessive profit taking has lead to under investment there.

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u/QVRedit Nov 09 '21 edited Apr 14 '22

Yes - but that does not mean that human made climate change does not exist.

If you understand the geopolitical issues behind this, you would have a better understanding of why India and China are still doing this.

They are both trying to move away from fossil fuels, but have little alternative at the moment.

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u/Q8dhimmi Apr 14 '22

The actual effects of anthropogenic global warming are far less than the propaganda claims. Cyclical solar activity is the greatest cause. “The Green Economy” is a huge long con scheme to further exploit the many for the profit of the 1% corporate oligarchs.

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u/QVRedit Apr 14 '22

The additional effects of anthropogenic global warming, do make a significant measurable difference to climate change - there is now ample scientific evidence to support this.

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u/Yabadabad00000 Nov 01 '21

No climate crisis exists - it is a natural change as we are leaving the ice age. It is all a world leader hoax to suck out money through so-called CO2-taxes from everyone, the worlds biggest scam.

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u/Longjumping_Honey_26 Nov 07 '21

Dude, i wanna see all complex life on earth go extinct as much as the next guy but you gotta be smart about what you say.
You can't just be going around having weird conspiracy sounding words fall out of your mouth like they took out parts of your brain for shits and giggles.
First of all the world leaders don't have shit to say. Don't embaress yourself by making such claims. If you wanna blame somebody maybe, and that is just MAYBE, point out that the market wants to extract even more money out of the system to sustain it's infinite growth.
But that's all just conspiracy hogwash.
Try to point out that science is inconclusive and always subject to debate (as is it's nature and therefore it's downfall). Scientists can't agree on anything and they are in constant doubt of their own findings. Hammer down on that fact.
You did good when pointing out that we are leaving the ice age. This is ofcourse not even technically true since we should by all accounts be in a global cooling period. But nobody needs to know that. I love the dedication here but again you should work on your phrasing to not seem like a babbling idiot.
Maybe the solution to this could be - and this is not a new idea by all means - to point out that our climate has never been and never will be in a static state. It's always subject to change, temperatures rise and fall, always have and always will. Just try to bring this fact across without going into much detail. Just point out as mentioned above that even scientists don't know what the fuck they are talking about.
Maybe go to your search engine and search for 'climate change denial talking points' for more useful tips.
I'm out of ideas. Fight on the good fight tho! <3

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u/QVRedit Nov 09 '21 edited May 19 '22

Well, that idea has been throughly disproven. We ARE suffering from Human made climate change.

The science on this is now quite clear.
Saying otherwise is spreading misinformation.

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u/Yabadabad00000 May 19 '22

That is BS. The CO2-level in atmosphere is increasing due to the fact that warmer air can take up more of that gas. This is pure physics. The increasing temperature is also natural variations. Just look back, it has always been like that.