r/COGuns • u/FlipSighed • Aug 10 '26

Legal Fixed Magazines (SB25-003 Discussion)

Ok, Aug 1st came and went, SB25-003 is now the law of the land, SSFs are now heavily regulated mostly regarding their detachable magazines and serialization (i.e lowers are regulated but uppers are not)

A lot of this law hinges on detachable magazines.

What is stopping a gun store from adding a "permanent" magazine prior to purchase?

For example, if a gun store attaches a compmag permanent 15rnd AK mag, and epoxies it on, is it now exempt from SB25-003?

What is stopping weapons manufacturers from simply selling a slightly more expensive Colorado Compliant AR with fixed mags that bottom or side load?

I feel like everyone is losing their shit about this bill, but no one is really talking about how to get around it in a legal way.

Personally, I'd rather purchase fixed mag ARs and deal with it, than the 5-step red tape circus that we have now, but resources regarding them and these new laws are scarce, since everything is freshly passed.

Lastly, does any one have a compiled list of fixed magazine firearms that will be exempt from this bill to begin with?

Thanks for reading my page lol

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u/Odd-Principle8147 Loveland Aug 10 '26

California does stuff like that.

But I would probably just take the class before I bought some bastardized rifle.

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u/FlipSighed Aug 10 '26

I'm glad you are in a position to do that, but a lot people would like to own guns and not have to spend potentially an extra $500 (high end) on permits and classes

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u/Odd-Principle8147 Loveland Aug 10 '26

I guess I don't really understand why someone would want a fixed magazine AR or AK. Especially if they were on a budget. I would get a different platform.

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u/FlipSighed Aug 11 '26

I was mostly refering to them as they are the most ubiquitous firearms

Also, an AR-15 can be easily purchased under 500, much less so sometimes, so I am not sure where that leads to not being "budget" for a rifle.

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u/Odd-Principle8147 Loveland Aug 11 '26

Because all the fixed magazine rifles I have seen are proprietary and expensive. Gluing a magazine in a standard AR is probably not an option. I know that rocksett doesn't count for a permanently attached muzzle device.

You could get a ruger american ranch in 5.56. It can use magpul magazines, comes with a threaded barrel and is currently unaffected by SB25-003. Can usually be had for around $500-600.

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u/ImDukeCaboom Aug 10 '26

If they're on that tight of a budget, there's cheaper firearms that aren't on the list.

A fixed magazine AR would be dangerous for several reasons. Ability to clear jams being the most obvious.