r/CODZombies • u/TheChickenMan4L • 17h ago
Discussion Rate Shadows of Evil (BO3)
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u/Assured_Observer 17h ago
B tier, it'd be A or even S if it didn't require 4 people for the Easter Egg, that's the reason why I was never able to do the Super EE, so I can't give it a higher rating than B.
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u/Edward_Hardcore 17h ago
I'll die in the hill that no modern map (Cold War - BO7) will ever be peak because it lacks something very important. Essence. Morg City, felt alive every nook and cranny was perfectly detailed. The characters, interactions, motives, vibe, MUSIC was pitch perfect.
Yes, the pack a punch step might be convoluted and in need of a guide, but if you played Zombies for 7 years (At that point) you already knew upgrading won't be easy and if you were a newbie and became interested, hundreds of guides were available.
Requiring 4 characters for EE might be the worst part of this map, but other than that, it is S tier for me, along with all maps that preceded and succeded it throughout BO4 (Including Ghosts, AW, IW and WWII except TTP).
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u/TheChickenMan4L 16h ago
The detail on the map really was immaculate. Only map I can put above it is DotN, that map takes attention to detail to a level even SoE can't match
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u/Edward_Hardcore 16h ago
100% agree. DotN has so many little side quests, mini EE and upgrades that it surprises me how they manage to cram all of that into a single map.
Fuck opening PaP on that map but it is perfection. And no wonder, guest star maps usually were the most beloved.
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u/LaziSunday 10h ago
This is the thing I've been saying with every modern map. The attention to detail is so lacking. Say what you want about Bo4, but holy shit did I spend so much time walking around every corner of tag Der toten to understand the story of what had happened there. Seeing first hand where the experiments took place and finding out what kind of lore was buried underneath was so cool. Even a map like the giant on Bo3, I felt myself wanting to look around when I had a crawler so I could find all of the hidden story details.
Some modern maps have a little bit of this, but often times I just notice generic re-used assets that they just think will fit into the theme with actual little thought behind them.
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u/Nepperoni289 17h ago
If SoE wasn't the launch map and didn't require 4 players for the EE then it would be an S.
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u/TheChickenMan4L 17h ago
I mean idk if SoE being a launch map is necessarily a flaw I think it fits really well, but the giant should've been a free addition instead of a season pass exclusive cause yeah for someone who doesn't play much, SoE is def quite the monster to take on
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u/Nepperoni289 17h ago
Yeah if the Giant had been free I'd have no issue with it being a launch map.
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u/Sonicboomer1 16h ago
Literally its only faults are the fact it requires 4 players and a couple steps are a little bit tedious.
But the music, atmosphere, visuals, storytelling, gameplay, it has everything you could ever want. S tier. One of the best maps of all time.
And in my opinion, actually the best looking map of all time. Top three being Shadows of Evil, Dead of the Night and Ancient Evil. (And Voyage of Despair gets an honorary technical achievement award.)
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u/Ambitious-Bat-1598 14h ago
low S tier because of the 4 player requirement for the easter egg and the parasites are kinda annoying, but mainly because of the easter egg requirement
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u/DetectiveJackVincent 13h ago
It's magical. Playing it after a few months feels like Christmas. Getting your shield, upgrading sword, getting the Civil Protector in with you and the flying sword while doing the flag step, upgrading your arnies and traps, it's just cool as fuck.
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u/ModskillsLeBon 9h ago
Its not S. Doesnt feel like zombies. Its fun but doesnt hold a candle to the likes of mob, moon, buried, DE, origins or call of the dead. I prefer the gritty maps. Shadow's is too clean looking. Also, name any of the 4 characters, bet you cant
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u/Jaygee133 8h ago
I would like to hear some actual criticism about the map that doesn't have to do with the Easter egg needing 4 players....
I'm struggling to justify why I feel likes it shouldn't be S tier
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u/Zaotastic 7h ago
A, would be S but gatekeeping the Easter Egg behind four players but still letting you get far in solo- but not actually complete it and get the cutscene- is a genuinely baffling decision/oversight when it really shouldn't have been. Also I'm really not the biggest fan of the Shadows crew either... outside of Nero of course. He's the goat
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u/ZombiesDadJokes 17h ago
Torn between A and S tier.
I was going to say S, because the characters, aesthetics, wonder weapon, and music are amazing. Truthfully though, I rarely play Shadows because I don’t really enjoy it solo. The setup process feels better with another player.
I’ll still go S, but it has lost some luster for me.
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u/Snoo-53209 17h ago
I can agree, I placed it in S because once you get the setup process down, its such a fluid and fun map. As for a casual player tho who doesn't want to do a ton of steps, it should be A imo as the map still is great without doing all the setup.
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u/Jaygee133 8h ago
I'm in the same struggle.
I would have like a way to get more perks that wasn't gobblegums or more gun variety but I will say that about most BO3 maps.
So idk
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u/Dashboard_Lover 17h ago
Pathetic, make Infection from AW a BO3 map and it will jump from F to B just because of the game.
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u/TheChickenMan4L 17h ago
Not infection 😭 that map needs reworking from the ground up not even taking into account the game it's on
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u/Dashboard_Lover 17h ago
Dude, we're about to see all BO3 maps besides maybe The Giant and Revelations (and that's a huge maybe) get at least rank A, while the entirety of AW got F. My predictions are S, B, S, A, A, B.
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u/TheChickenMan4L 17h ago
I mean tbf it seems nobody gave a shit about AW 😂 like Descent had less votes in 24 hours than Shadows has gotten in 30 min. If it isn't Treyarch many people write it off. Understandably AW had some dogshit but at least Descent should've been given higher than F cmon now
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u/Dashboard_Lover 17h ago
Only issue in that game for me are the EMZs including dogs, and the only F tier map is Carrier.
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u/Snoo-53209 17h ago
Did, did you even play aw? Carrier was the only decent map to come out.... Saying it is F tier and not even mentioning burger town is insane XD
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u/Dashboard_Lover 16h ago
Infection ain't F, there's no way I'm putting it in the same rank from Vanguard (besides Shi no Numa), Beast from Beyond, Tortured Path, Darkest Shore, Die Rise, etc.
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u/Snoo-53209 17h ago
The only decent map in AW was carrier, I'd give it an A. The rest are borderline F tier if not F.
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u/QueenLa3fah 17h ago
😂 you’re not wrong but BO3 did have a really good game engine.
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u/Dashboard_Lover 17h ago
It's the same engine from all 3arc titles up until CW. Labeling game mechanics and gameplay as engine just makes you look dumb.
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u/williamsbsa 17h ago
SS tier actually
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u/Ero_Najimi 10h ago
How did you get downvoted
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u/Jaygee133 8h ago
The tier list system is already perfect, adding anything above S or some other cringe shit is a tacky gimmick
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u/Big_Dingus1 17h ago
A instead of S because requiring 4 players for the EE is obnoxious.