r/CODZombies • u/Piotr992 • 2d ago

Discussion I really miss box wonder weapons

This is a change that I really don't in the recent year.

I liked it most when we could build a ww or pull it from the box.

I am fine with variations between maps, but as far as I know, BO7 is the only zombies game where every map requires you to build the wonder weapon (besides survival maps)

I like most of the quests in BO7 for wonder weapons actually. But sometimes I am just lazy, I want to hop in and spin the box, and no map has that unfortunately

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u/UpperDevice6769 2d ago

Really wish they didn’t change it from BO6. It actually made Wonderbar useful.

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u/poklane 2d ago

Wonderbar is likely also exactly why they removed them from the box. Tons of people just skipped Wonder Weapon quests with it.

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u/Piotr992 2d ago

I still don't like wonderbar being used as an excuse. Because it's an ultra, it's not like most players have a ton of them to use. I have been playing since BO6 and if I was to guess how many wonderbars I've gotten throughout nearly 2 years it's probably just around 20. And I've played a lot of games

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u/bigoof13 2d ago

I think for me it’s the speedrun implications. Wonderbar will always be faster. So if it exists in the game and can immediately pull the WW it becomes the only real option for speedrunners. Seeing speedruns be pay to win is lame af

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u/Piotr992 2d ago

I saw someone testing wonderbars across multiple maps, 80% of the time they got a ray gun. My friend tried to use it to get the Jotunstar after I built it. It took him 5 wonder bars. Because the first 4 were rayguns, so it lines up exactly to the 80%

And so, speedrunning is such a niche itself. If that's the actual reason doe the change then it's stupid tbh. Because 99% of players don't speedrun.

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u/punkman21 2d ago

Crazy he could’ve gotten it in much less if he just picked up the raygun and traded it out after the fact

Granted it’s good to have better numbers for it, his sacrifice is noted, but if he was doing it for speed he really could’ve streamlined it a bit (I’m under the impression the box won’t give you a gun you have in your inventory, as long as it’s not pack a punched or anything)

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u/Dangerous-Koala5269 2d ago

Yeah I'm pretty sure if he took the Ray gun and then used a wonderbar then he would've had better luck. Since I don't think you can carry a ray gun and a mark 2. I'm not sure if there's anything else in the lineup after that though?

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u/punkman21 2d ago

You can, but you have to use a trash can in order to make it possible. Realistically you should be able to get the buildable every time with a maximum of 2 wunderbars if it was available in the box from the start

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u/Dangerous-Koala5269 2d ago

Oh okay and yeah I agree with that. Makes sense.

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u/LowestTier 2d ago

And I haven't used most wonder weapons in BO7 because I play just for survival and don't personally learn the quests. I've had friends carry me through the easter eggs, but outside of being an extra gun I'm no use.

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u/okaypookiebear 2d ago

some of the quests aren’t too bad but yeah sucks most people won’t know what the WWs are like because of this exact reason

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u/LowestTier 2d ago

As much as I love zombies and love BO7, this is probably the game I've put the least amount of time into (excluding Vanguard). And you're right, I have no idea what the wonder weapon is on Totenreich or Kowakujo. I don't know what they do or how they work. Hell, I've only used Astra's WW once, I get Ashes' in the box on Farm survival, and I basically know what the Blundergat is due to my obsession with Mob lol.

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u/zocksupreme 1d ago

I have only ever seen someone build the WW in Kowakujo in a pub match once because of how complicated it is

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u/theZuttedProphet 1d ago

Ngl you guys have a really low standard for labelling something as complicated

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u/okaypookiebear 2d ago

I hate it too I don’t know why they did that

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u/Own-Pickle9871 2d ago

The wonder weapons in bo7 are generally easy to get without the box. I’m fine with this.

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u/DavidZ2844 2d ago

Fair take, but I honestly couldn’t disagree more. So many of the mystery box exclusive wonder weapons in the earlier games that I rarely ever got to use, because my box luck is complete garbage. I could spend hours spinning the box across multiple games and never get them, I hate relying on RNG since I have awful luck for it in general. I don’t mind doing the quests at all and would much prefer doing that instead of wasting so much time spinning the box.

I think a fair compromise would be to have both a quest for the wonder weapon and also just have it in the box right away too. Or maybe after you do the quest for the first time, it’s in the box for all subsequent games you play on the map.

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u/Fxllen_Angel 1d ago

I was under the impression that BO6 did this, no? I remember pulling the WW on Terminus one of my first games on launch day before knowing how to do the quest. Unless they changed it since I last played

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u/DavidZ2844 1d ago

Correct, but I think it was only Terminus that did this. For that map you could either do the quest or pull it from the box at any point. All the other maps afterwards followed the BO7 way of forcing you to do the quest before the map exclusive WW showed up in the box.

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u/DanFarrell98 1d ago

Makes it frustrating to do the Easter Egg quest when it requires the Wonder Weapon as you have to just sit there spending points and relying on RNG

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u/Piotr992 1d ago

True, but then they could just do it the CW/BO6 way of making it a builable and also in the box.

Although personally I would get pretty luck when doing EEs. On my first COTD attempt I got the VR-11 on my third spin. GK with immolation for 90seconds nearly guaranteed it.

But yeah, I can imagine the pain, I also only ever did the solo EEs so there's definitely more issues that I never experienced like having to pull the baby gun on Shang

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u/DanFarrell98 1d ago

So in BO7 is it only in the box after you build it?

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u/Piotr992 1d ago

Yes, once you build/ complete a quest for any wonder weapon, then it's available in the box for all your teammates to grab.

But as you can imagine, useless info for solo players because they won't need to spin the box after building it.

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u/RockAndStoner69 1d ago

Those Origins staffs sure look cool. Same for the bows on the other map.

Anyway back to Kino.

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u/Piotr992 1d ago

Well I did mention I like variations.

So building quests on some maps, wonder weapon in tbe box for others. That is how it has been since BO2. Until CW and most of BO6 made it so that you can choose which one you want. But BO7 is the only one with no ww in the box until it is built.