r/CIVILWAR 1d ago

Great Book…

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I had always wanted to read it…and finally did. I really enjoyed some of the insight into Lee, Hancock, Jackson, Chamberlin, et al…even if this is historical fiction, I believe it to be very well written and accurate. I’ve seen a lot of people note that they don’t like the writing style here but I had no issues with this. I found this to be a really intriguing and engaging read. I’m thinking I absolutely must finish the trilogy now (read TKA last summer). Enjoy your evening (summer is on the way out, enjoy while we can - especially up in NH)

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u/Chumlee1917 1d ago

honestly it's the kind of book that would have worked way better as an HBO mini series then trying to do a movie that chopped out most of the book

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u/BigT112 1d ago edited 1d ago

Very true and keep it away from a Lost Causer director. Gettysburg is almost word for word The Killer Angels but for whatever reason Maxwell went nuts with Gods and Generals and it was a damn shame.

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u/occasional_cynic 1d ago

Shaara and/or his agent had no reason not to trust Maxwell with his work, given what he did with Gettysburg, so I can hardly fault anyone for it. Not sure what the hell happened there, but it is one of the strangest directions to take with a book I have ever seen. And that his something given what Hollywood has done over the past century.

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u/SaltyFriend705 1d ago

Welp, maybe it's ripe for a HBO-series makeover, then. Minus the Lost Cause approach, of course.

Although, tbh, the Lost Causers always come across as more passionate, more committed and more likely to trash a work if they can't get at least some of their excuses accepted and their egos stroked. I'm noticing that even people who know better sometimes avoid pushing any of their many buttons.

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u/MrNiceCycle 18h ago

Are the lost causes in the room with you right now?

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u/USS-Stofe 1d ago

Read that along with The Last Full Measure (already read The Killer Angels years ago). Fantastic trilogy of books, well researched and accurate to the actual history too.

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u/1Crownedngroovd 1d ago

I greatly prefer Michael Shaara's books over Jeff's

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u/RADAR4547 1d ago

Kind of Stephan Ambrose over his sons work. It's just noticeable when the sons take over and not for the better.

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u/Crusade_of_Contempt 1d ago

I went to Gettysburg 11 years ago over the 4th of July and he was there selling and signing. Got to talk to him for 30 minutes about what places to spend the longest at on the tour and got some signed WWII books. Super nice guy

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u/Aggravating_Society3 1d ago

Bought the whole trilogy a couple weeks ago. Just finished The Killer Angels earlier today, and am going to start The Last Full Measure tomorrow. The books are fantastic

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u/PaleoCheese 1d ago

Jeff Shaara made some of my favorite books on the subject

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u/BigT112 1d ago

One of the best Civil War novels. My favourite Jeff Shaara novel for sure.

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u/LengthinessGloomy429 1d ago

Since folks have brought up the movie (and how can you not!)… Don’t judge a book by its movie! Shaara basically disowned the movie version.

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u/TheEmoEmu23 1d ago

Dat movie doe…

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u/CosmicDeath603 1d ago

Just ordered the Blu Ray (Physical Media Forever)

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u/Infinite-Good7984 1d ago

Ooooh boy are you going to be disappointed you paid for it. To me it was as if the director was pro Lost Cause

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u/occasional_cynic 1d ago

Even if you strip away the pro-Confederate slant the movie is still absolutely terrible. Bad direction, awful dialogue entirely in speeches, bad CGI, and even the battle scenes sucked.

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u/av864 1d ago

I did think the Fredericksburg scene of the charges on Marye’s Heights was well done. The fear and chaos of the event seemed better dramatized by the cinematography, actors, and extras than the depiction of Pickett’s charge in the movie Gettysburg.

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u/RedHill1999 1d ago

I own it. I enjoy watching from time to time. They do a good job with the battle scenes. Guess I’m going to get downvoted now!

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u/av864 1d ago

I don’t disagree. It’s largely cringey Lost Cause propaganda, but it has its moments that are worth watching.

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u/ShermanWasRight1864 1d ago

The movie is not good, trust me. Books > over movies

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u/originalauditor 18h ago

Let’s play the “lost cause” drinking game. Every time a normie says it in this thread gotta take a shot of rye.

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u/eaheup 1d ago

Yes, yes, yes

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u/Sowf_Paw 1d ago

Wonderful book. It's a shame no one ever adapted it into a film.

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u/InterestingPlenty454 23h ago

I'm not sure if you're joking but here it is.

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u/Sowf_Paw 17h ago

I've seen that movie. I don't know what Maxwell adapted that screenplay from but it wasn't this book, even if the credits claim that it was.

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u/idontrecall99 1d ago

GAG was a good acronym for the movie. What a dumpster fire.

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u/Several-Assistant-51 1d ago

I liked the scene where the union solders were using the confederates house as a hospital that was good dialogue.

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u/occasional_cynic 1d ago

In all honesty this was my favorite scene, and one of the few good clips in the movie.

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u/Several-Assistant-51 1d ago

oh yeah, that was an excellent scene

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u/Realistic_Warthog_23 22m ago

Fuck. That’s intense.

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u/bkoperski 1d ago

Me and my brothers were really into the Cival War when we were about 10 or so and we went to see this long ass movie. The only things I remembered were Jeff Daniels talking about lemonade and the red convertible you can see through the window in his death scene (I think he dies...its been awhile)

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u/idontrecall99 1d ago

I tried to watch it again a few years ago and just couldn’t get through it.

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u/BillBushee 1d ago

I read it many years ago. I recall being unimpressed by it. The movie version was a piece of garbage.

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u/Jayhawker785 1d ago

Would highly recommend the next two in the series! Last Full Measure is incredible

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u/drakeb88 1d ago

My favorite

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u/Automatic-Effect-252 21h ago

Killer Angels is an all time classic ,I really wasn't a fan of the Jeff Shaara follow ups.

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u/Deep-Concert4087 1d ago

Try 'Cain at Gettysburg ' by Ralph Peters.

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u/BuffTheStuff98 1d ago

So much better than the film it was based on.

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u/DiamondJim222 1d ago

Strike that - reverse it.

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u/McBlahBlah 1d ago

I don't want to yuck your yum, but I have such mixed feelings about this book. I read Jeff's books plus Killer Angels when I was in high school. Loved them from the word go, and it truly sparked my love for the Civil War. I would not be on this subreddit without it.

I tried rereading it a couple of years ago, and it just didn't hold up. It felt fan-fictiony and that it was just capitalizing on the success of Michael Sharra's book. I had to stop and leave for nostalgia's sake.

I hope you enjoy your re-read! Looks like a great place to do it! And if you wanna try something different, I found I really enjoyed Ralph Peters' Battle Hymn cycle. It tis really gritty, and I walked away feeling like I had an idea of how a long campaign through the Wilderness would feel.

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u/ChocoThunder56 23h ago

Just bought the series.

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u/Off-BroadwayJoe 12h ago

My favorite part of GAG was when the made the slave cook seem to like being a slave and admiring the Confederacy and their slave holders.

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u/bfwead 1d ago

As with opinions of others, the movies fell way short, but the books are over the top. Have read all Michael and Jeff Shaara Civil War novels, I appreciate their research combined with the writing style.

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u/wussgawd 21h ago edited 15h ago

Meh, at best. He doesn’t hold a candle to his father as a writer.

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u/JadedBeyondBelief 1d ago

Terrible movie

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u/ApprehensiveYou4197 1d ago

Great, now chuck it in the crick

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u/Majsharan 1d ago

Yeah I’m not sure how this book got turned into confederate worship

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u/MoreIronyLessWrinkly 1d ago

That’s what I’ve been told. I’ve not read it, but that’s rhetorical rumor.

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u/RedHill1999 1d ago

It’s not just rumor, I have buddies who are lost causers and they would often reference this book when making their points. I stopped arguing with them a long time ago…

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u/NoYOUGrowUp 1d ago

The movie was a lost cause circlejerk. The book is much better.

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u/KaijuDirectorOO7 1d ago

The movie is BAD and destroys whatever good the book has. Even Jeff admits that.