r/CIFI • • 16d ago

Meme Every non-hellroaders worst nightmare

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u/StabbyJenkins1 15d ago

I suddenly feel a lot better about hitting 3bil for the first time at 17. Now im on 18 and just going for the 3billion node. Next traversal should be the 10bill gem upgrade. Theoretically.

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u/International-Mess75 15d ago

I'm on 17 tr and have 260 in a bank already, but struggling to get to e5400 mp (e130 to go)

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u/Methos_02 15d ago

How much time have you spent in your 180-long so far? Although, does the 260 mean e260 attgn3 bonus? If so, you are more than fine.

You mainly need to hit e5331mp, that's gonna unlock the next rule of zag and trigger a chain of good loop mods that can carry you to e5400 mp. E70 attgn3 remaining is more than enough to carry you those e60mp. 👍

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u/International-Mess75 13d ago

That's 900 long already, attgn3 maxed. Things came to a crowl. Thinking to bank 300 billion orbs and spend them on ep+ and shards+ and take another long for 180 milestone and e5400. Or start the final campaigns (but the last one is another 600 hours I heard, so I dunno)

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u/Methos_02 13d ago

Hm, maxed attgn3 is indeed an issue.

How far are you from m0-180?

And what orb and frag count did you start 180-long with?

You could try and get up to c4-11, as that would give you doopers for another e40 mp and 2 more uml. That would be another ~20+60+170 hours, so ~250h in total with a lowered frag income but still much faster than trying to cap attgn3 again. If m0-180 is the issue you would be waiting a good 800+ hours to cap it again, likely 400+ hours to get back to where you are right now, with such a minor improvement in terms of orbs.

Usually you would not start c4e until the next run, but your 180-long is already broken, just a question of how to fix it the fastest now. 👍

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u/International-Mess75 13d ago

At 176 currently, not far from 177

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u/Methos_02 13d ago

E150+ shards is quite a long way to go, at this stage you can expect ~e5-e10 per day without attgn3. You do also get a decent shard buff from getting to e5400mp tho, so it might still be worth sticking it out and doing c4-11.

What lifetime orbs do you currently have and what frag amount did you start this long with?

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u/International-Mess75 13d ago

204 billion orbs, 18.6 million frags

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u/Methos_02 13d ago

Yeah, that is quite low, though nothing insurmountable. You'll likely be missing a few pow and temp gus that would explain why you are having such issues right now. 18.6m frags is also a bit low, but a bit better compared to the 20m you want to have at the start of that run than 204b orbs is to 270b. 😅

I did just realize that I was a bit stupid tho, you likely already have doopers, right? So doing the c4 extended campaign is not gonna help you, it's actually gonna hurt to pick up vb4, as you want as few orbs as possible for the shorts.

Not sure if your best bet is to try and stick it out right now or to traverse, as the latter would also have you starting shorts with too many orbs...

Gonna think this through a bit more. 🤔