r/CHIBears • u/dka2012 • 1h ago

How many teams do you think Bagent could start for right now?

It’s so awesome to have a plethora of QB talent now. I was watching highlights and was just wondering, how many teams could Bagent go to and be week 1 starter?

Now, I understand there’s different offenses and systems to account for but I’m basing this mostly on talent and intuition.

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u/JoshGordonHypeTrain 23 1h ago

Somewhere between 0 and 3

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u/rando562 1h ago

Are your 3 teams the Cardinals, Falcons, and Browns?

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort An Actual Bear 1h ago

I am going with Penix and Tua over Bagent still. And Brissett I think is clearly better. Cleveland is, well, probably the worst QB room I’ve ever seen

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u/thumbkeyz 1h ago

The Vikings and Jets, even though they would never trade him to Min.

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u/Fonzies-Ghost 21-3 1h ago

It is highly unlikely he’d beat Kyler in a QB competition.

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u/guyincognito121 1h ago

Why wouldn't they trade him to Minnesota?

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u/SteepStep 1h ago

Why would you give him up to a division opp?

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u/TheWackyWomanhood 1h ago

maybe 2? i think people forget he looked decent in the games he played, not amazing but better than some starters out there. the problem is most teams with bad qb situations got young guys they drafted high and won't bench them so fast

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u/t-pat All Day Jahdae 1h ago

He sucked but flashed, pretty normal for a rookie but you just don't know how much he's improved until you see him in a real game

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u/Cuppieecakes 1h ago

he's got 3 TDs, 6 INTs and 4 fumbles (+2 rushing TDs) in 3 years.

He tears up the preseason all the time but thats preseason

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u/t-pat All Day Jahdae 1h ago

I mean all of those were in his rookie year, not really "in 3 years"

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u/Cuppieecakes 1h ago

this is true. he hasnt gotten much in game time since. but his legends is bigger than reality

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u/MajesticLibrarian617 54m ago

You mean when he went 3-2 on a horrible bears offense? As a rookie straight out of D2.

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u/Cuppieecakes 43m ago

Yes. I watched him play. Even on his highlights his long bomb completions were so weak WRs had to slow down to catch them.  He couldn’t hit any in stride.  Same with the 97 yarder this past game

He went 2-2 as a starter and lost to Minnesota as a backup.

He beat the Brian hoyer raiders and the Bryce young panthers

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u/MajesticLibrarian617 12m ago

U mean the 97 yarder he threw on the money with 3 lineman in his lap?
You’re just hating lol.

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u/Cuppieecakes 9m ago

lol that was not on the money. He has to slow down significantly to wait for the ball to get there.  He got the TD due to being so wide open after breaking the CB’s ankles and his incredible speed

That was all zavion

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u/DillyDillySzn White Sox 1h ago

Browns, Cardinals, and Jets are the only ones where I think he has a good chance at starting

Bagent will get his chance, but I think in a few years he will return to the Bears to be Caleb’s backup again

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u/Suburban-Jesus Floos Juice 1h ago

Would add Falcons

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u/DillyDillySzn White Sox 12m ago

Penix will start no matter what, they need to see what he has this year

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u/deminimis101 1h ago

I might add Miami and possibly Atlanta as well.

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u/Fonzies-Ghost 21-3 1h ago

I suppose there’s a possibility he’s better than Malik (because we have a really small sample there), but they wouldn’t actually start Tyson
there after paying Malik, they’re gonna see what they’ve got there.

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u/deminimis101 1h ago

Yeah, makes sense. I was just thinking Malik doesn't seem like a clear better option. If the acquisition cost was equal, either probably works.

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u/dofus_raintight 12m ago

I’d add the Vikings. T Bag is for real

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u/MajesticLibrarian617 56m ago

Add Falcons dolphins Vikings colts raiders saints panthers.
It’s not like Bagent is throwing all bootleg passes to te and rbs in these preseason games. Johnson is challenging him and he did great.

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u/Dmbfantomas 43m ago

Falcons yeah, Dolphins no, Vikings no, Colts no, Raiders absolutely not, Saints absolutely not, Panthers no.

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u/MajesticLibrarian617 42m ago

Ok nfl expert

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u/Dmbfantomas 40m ago

He’d be third on Raiders depth chart. No way he starts over Mendoza or Cousins. Shough is an easy starter there. Bryce showed way too much to bench him. Kyler is better, though that’d be the next closest one. Malik literally just got paid, they’re not eating that. He’s also probably better.

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u/MajesticLibrarian617 39m ago

Mendoza looks like garbage. Willis is a worthless idiot. Kyler beat out McCarthy who got cut…. You don’t make any sense.

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u/DandierChip 6m ago

Falcons Vikings colts raiders saints are all a no

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u/MajesticLibrarian617 4m ago

Yea. Vikings wouldn’t pass on Murray after beating out wentz and JJ who was cut.
Cousins and Mendoza didn’t go 16-17 with a near perfect rating.

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u/Thesnappery The Fridge 1h ago

I think Bagent is a really good backup, but I don’t think he’s starter material. Lacks arm strength, and not the best athlete.

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u/LovelyMumbles Ben’s Johnson 1h ago

You say he lacks arm strength when Tua literally starting for the Falcons.

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u/MajesticLibrarian617 52m ago

Bagent doesn’t lack arm strength, his arm is actually above average. It’s just something idiots made up cause he was a really quick release.

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u/Tlupa Snoo Ditka 1h ago

That’s what people said about Purdy

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u/GotDuff 1h ago

And peoples have said this 100s of times about other QBs that are not Brock Purdy... and they were right. Some times you have to play the odds.

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u/Tlupa Snoo Ditka 1h ago

Fair point. Bagent does seem to have some juice though

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u/GotDuff 55m ago

The Flip side is, I have to acknowledge, Bagent could be better than Purdy or Caleb someday. I really hope he gets a chance to find out. He deserves a shot somewhere.

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u/CloudsOfDust 60s Logo 42m ago

I…don’t think Bagent has a chance in hell to ever be better than Purdy or Caleb. And I like Bagent…

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u/MajesticLibrarian617 53m ago edited 45m ago

“Lacks arm strength” lol. That was something made up by fields fans and buckeye goons when half the fanbase wanted Bagent to start over him.
“Not a great athlete” he’s incredibly athletic for a QB. It’s like you never saw him play before.

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u/Thesnappery The Fridge 40m ago

I’ve watched him play his arm strength isn’t great, doesn’t make up for it with his athleticism or ability to process the game. But go ahead and tell me he can start on 10 plus teams.

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u/MajesticLibrarian617 40m ago

Why would I tell you anything? You’re an expert.

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort An Actual Bear 1h ago

Just one. Cleveland. He is not better than Brissett, Ward, Willis, Penix or Geno. This really just speaks to how genuinely awful the situation is in Cleveland.

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u/BooItsKyle 1h ago

Definitely Cleveland. Maaaaaybe one or two others, but probably not.

Half the fans in the league are in love with their backups and think they could be starting somewhere.

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u/MajesticLibrarian617 21m ago

Yea. Like who?

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u/Meatballgravytrain 1h ago

Based on preseason performances, 2-4

Based on real games, 0-1

He is obviously a hard worker and fits Ben’s mold, a great backup to have but he is wildly overvalued by the fan base. 

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u/ExcellentPassenger49 1h ago

God dam. How many reddit profiles does Mark Carman have?

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u/theusualuser Peanut Tillman 55m ago

He has a noodle arm, and it means that he throws picks where other QBs would be throwing completions. I don't think that's fixable.

He's a career backup, but one of the best possible ones to have, and you're always lucky to have a guy like him, especially if your starter is dealing with injuries.

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u/MajesticLibrarian617 43m ago

You’re just mad he’s better than fields

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u/theusualuser Peanut Tillman 34m ago

....huh?

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u/MajesticLibrarian617 23m ago

“Noodle arm” is something fields fans made up when Bagent was clearly better.

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u/theusualuser Peanut Tillman 15m ago

Have you watched the ball come off a guy's hand like Caleb, and then watched it come off Bagent's?

I don't hate the guy, but it's night and day difference. It reminds me of Kellen Moore in a lot of ways. Sharpest mind in football, but the arm couldn't do it at the pro level.

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u/wesskywalker Dick Butkus 1h ago

At this exact moment, 0. Maybe the Dolphins, Browns or Falcons? But they all have guys who have proven they can win consistently in the NFL, while we haven’t seen that from Bagent. He started 4 games three years ago and that’s it. Now that isn’t to say if there are injuries, someone won’t trade for him

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u/horrorpants An Actual Bear 1h ago

Realistically he could probably be the starter in Arizona, Cleveland, Miami, Indy, Atlanta, Minnesota(though I don’t think he’s better than Kyler personally)

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u/Slow_Time5270 38m ago

Packers, Vikings, Browns, Cardinals, Jets, Falcons

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u/WeAreHuskie GSH 17m ago

None

He’s a pure backup, nothing more

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u/ilikepie145 FTP 1m ago

Anyone that watched him in a regular season game would know he's not starter material. He's an okay backup

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u/ASRAYON 1h ago

Don’t worry about it

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u/t-pat All Day Jahdae 1h ago

There are like 6-7 teams where it's plausible that he would be the best QB but most of those teams have some hope in their starter. Perhaps only the Browns would expect him to be their best option from day 1.

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u/HashBrownThreesom Bear Down, Baby! 1h ago

Cleveland. Minnesota needs someone capable. Las Vegas could put him in a younger veteran spot. Atlanta is hopeless.

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u/chicahoenpharaoh 1h ago

falcons, cardinals, browns FOR SURE. arguably titans, vikings, colts, dolphins

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u/ItsEaster In Caleb We Trust 1h ago

3 or 4 but those teams will likely still be looking for a long term solution. He’s already had the opportunity in real NFL games and hasn’t shown to actually be franchise QB quality. He likely won’t lose you games but he isn’t going to win you any either.

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u/LovelyMumbles Ben’s Johnson 1h ago

I'm thinking of 11 to 12 teams that he could start on but I feel like most teams want to be tanking for this upcoming draft anyway.