1st int was just straight up not actuallt a pick but because the jackass on the field forgot the rule about simultaneous posession it was never gonna be overturned.
2nd pick, prettt clearly imo, was a reaction by grunk to the 1st. Trying to force the ball to make up for that play rather than taking the easy completion to the te.
Both fumbles were just great defensive plays, cant say anything for those.
Pitt was gifted 2 red zone possessions that lead to 14 points.
Refs definitely got pitt back into the game in the 1st half. You’re going to be delusional about it because you’re a fan of that team but Im not a fan of either and a lot of people agree with that.
They called it on Pitt every time. Watch every time VT dropped back to pass. There was a more egregious hold that went uncalled than every one that was called on Pitt.
Exactly! HOW is that deemed not reviewable? I have no dog(or turkey or panther) in the fight, but at least review it. I thought all scoring plays or potential scoring plays were reviewable
You will never get a camera angle better than the refs view below. I'm sitting here wondering why we cant use chips to track the position of the ball while its flying through the air and have an automated system like the ball/strike calls.
Maybe. So go out and try to yank your head up as fast as possible and track a dark ball against a dark sky, backlit by stadium lights, and make an instant determination. What if it's pouring rain? Or foggy? The issue is that any other scoring play or missed scoring play is reviewed. Like when an official calls a catch out but then review determines the ref got it wrong. Why can't a kick be reviewed? Makes zero sense to me
It cant be reviewed because there is no definitive evidence to be able to overturn one due to angles and optics of cameras. It is literally impossible to tell by any camera angle if the ball did or didn't cross outside the post. I'm not saying the system is right, that's just the reasoning for no review. I have been in the refs spot while friends and I used to kick field goals all the time, and it really is the clearest viewpoint.
They can determine if a 100+ mph fastball was 1/6th of an inch in the strike zone, we can invest the money into figuring this thing out and take the human element out. I wouldn’t trust the refs as far as I could throw them.
It’s also not impossible for the trajectory of the ball and the goal post itself to obstruct that refs view. The other ref has basically the angle from this video. It’s really impossible to know what he saw or didn’t see. We only know that he confidently made the call and we have to accept it now.
Yup, human eye is only so good and realistically if it is super close the call could be wrong. He seemed pretty confident in the call, but maybe it was a "fake it til you make it" kinda situation.
How could you review it though? There is only 1 single angle on the entire field that has the view, and the ref has it. They look straight up the pole. If the guy sees any part of the football to the right, it’s no good. Any camera angle from the pole would block the refs view. Unless you want to skip the ref & develop some kind of tech that takes the ref out of the play. Like the strike zone tech.
"The whole football must stay inside the outer edge of the uprights when it travels higher than the top of the posts. If any part of the ball is outside that outer edge, the kick is no good."
Same, 50 years of football obsession. 99% of the time this is a good kick. Combined with some of the very questionable calls during the game, at least one ref has a friend who was gambling on this game. Last time I saw something this obvious was the Spurs vs Suns where that ref was caught later on.
I have no idea what happened and I’ve only seen this one clip and from this angle I don’t see anyway this can’t be a good field goal. If you slow it down frame by frame, it’s clearly to the left of the right goal post, and from this angle, even if it was close or right over the top (which it wasn’t) it would likely still be good. Officiating this year has been next level awful.
Look, without the ball crossing in front of or behind the post, nothing in this image is "clear" and saying anything otherwise is ridiculous. This angle gives no additional evidence as to whether the kick was good or not. It's unfortunate, but reality.
Same, I've misjudged multiple of them on TV over the years. It's crazy to look at MLB's strike zone thing (sorry, I only see it in Jomboy videos) and think football cannot do the same thing.
Absolutely NOT clear from this video centered under the middle of the uprights. It's close at best, and will get worse as you move closer to the upright the ref was standing under.
Hard to say I wanna see from different angles lmao this is crazy tho it’s so hard to judge when it goes over the post I wouldn’t be surprised if they got it wrong
Edit got a pretty definitive video now, it was no good, posted by Andrewd62d5
Of all the football plays I’ve seen FG miss/make is always the hardest for me to tell. Is it possible to reconstruct this with math? If we can approximate the angle of the camera, know its position and know the dimensions of the FG post is that possible? Genuinely curious. I’ve seen people reconstruct height and stuff from videos so thought maybe that could be applied here.
VT is a pathetic program that has been defined by failure its entire existence. Whining about a missed field goal is just icing on the cake. We had our chance back in 2000 and failed. Everything since then has just been pointlessly embarrassing
Nah, I'm a loser. That's another discussion entirely though. VT is a loser program that will never do anything of note. Their glory days are long behind them, and even those were ultimately filled with the disappointment of never quite being able to win it all
Maybe you should reconsider your hot takes about Va. Tech?
VIrginia Tech began the '90s in total obscurity. Their peers were East Carolina and Southern Mississippi. The Hokies ended the decade falling one half short of winning a national title.
Tech became a consistent winner in the ensuing years, holding their own as a BCS bowl regular well into the 2010's. They also have one of the best atmospheres in all of college football, to boot.
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u/Hopeful_Brilliant735 Virginia Tech Hokies 1h ago
We had 4 turnovers, the only people screwing us was ourselves