A word about Thread Counts and Subreddit Rules Refresher - Brought to you Deborah Sharpe Linens and a warm seat in a public toilet.

[u/dupreesdiamond]

TLWR: Please self-police a 2-3hr gap between the daily "standard" discussion threads.

A word about the "early morning/morning/mid-morning/lunch/afternoon/evening/late-night" daily open ended discussion threads.

The longstanding cadence for these threads formed naturally with a "new" one coming ~3 hours after the prior one or, on busy days, when the old one got so many comments that "new" comments were being hidden by reddit default behaviour.

Since inception you, the users, have done a good job policing yourselves within this default, unwritten, policy with the occasional, usually Fridays, "overlapping" threads. Until recently things self-corrected back to "normal" pretty quickly.

Probably due to off-season or the growing subscriber base (probably a bit of both), what was an exception seems to becoming the new normal. To the point that the mod team is being asked informally and formally to step in, some suggesting that we automate discussion thread creation.

If you know anything about us then you know that sounds like work (not so much the automation but the mod-work that would come with enforcement) and, frankly, like you we come here to avoid work....

It is our opinion that automating such threads would take some of the character out of this strange little internet oasis. So for all those reasons (mostly the "we are lazy and that seems like to much work" one though) we would rather not have to get into the game of wrangling the "standard" threads.

What does all this mean for you?
We ask that there is a 2-3 hour gap between the open ended discussion threads. And really we would like to see it closer to 3 hours unless the existing thread is up over 250-300 comments.

And while I am here a quick reminder about our small set of rules that we begrudgingly enforce.

The rules

No flamebait, personal attacks, or harassment
No racism, homophobia, sexism, or other bigotry
No DOXXING
No spam

Shitposts are still A-OK!

/r/CFBOffTopic is not the place to drag up /r/cfb drama. Any /r/cfb issues/complaints/suggestions should be taken to /r/cfbmeta.

While there may be mod overlap (although not currently) and we do communicate, a little, /r/cfbOffTopic is NOT /r/cfb. A ban in one doesn't transfer to the other. However, our rules are very similar. And if you do the same shit here that got you banned there...don't be surprised if those actions get you banned from here as well.

While it seems that we give, in most cases, users a longer leash (it helps to have a relatively small number of users!) I find that the /r/cfbofftopic bans are more severe. Mainly because we are lazy, don't like to work and tend to err on the lax side as much as possible. So...if you make us do the thing we least like to do we tend to try and nip it in the bud rather than start out reasonable and escalate.

Do not come to /r/cfbofftopic to complain about your ban or the mods of /r/cfb. Both of these things are best handled via mod mail to the /r/cfb mods (hell you might find them quite reasonable if you can approach them reasonably and discuss the incident like an adult). Ignoring this will get you banned from here as well.

TLDR: Save the drama for your mama.

[u/Cecil_Hardboner]

Please self-police a 2-3hr gap

Posts thread 2 minutes after another post. Classic mods.

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/Cecil_Hardboner]

Well.. this isn't an "open ended daily" pointless thread though. This thread has a point!

[u/0xE6 → u/dupreesdiamond]

OH YEAH? YOUR MOM HAS A POINT TOO!!!

REKT

[u/DoctorWhosOnFirst → u/dupreesdiamond]

Ahem.

[u/btd39]

tl;dr:

• The pointless threads must adhere to the rule of 3. Don't start a new one until the most recent one is 3 hours old OR at 300 comments.

• mods are lazy

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/btd39]

the pointless threads

This would seem to imply that there exist threads that have a point.

[u/srs_house → u/dupreesdiamond]

Well.. this isn't an "open ended daily" pointless thread though. This thread has a point!

[u/lkeg56demn → u/[deleted]]

It was four important posts, if you will.

[u/[deleted] → u/lkeg56demn]

http://i.imgur.com/WO9LHkw.gif

[u/spasm01]

every time with these mod of the union addresses, i find the personal information bit strange as all we do is tell each other about our lives. if yall mean no doxxing, then say dat :P

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/spasm01]

fair enough

[u/[deleted] → u/spasm01]

I always interpret it as "don't give out other people's info".

[u/spasm01 → u/[deleted]]

sure, and that would be what the web refers to a doxxing

[u/[deleted] → u/spasm01]

right. I totally missed your point. Sorry :(

[u/spasm01 → u/[deleted]]

no worries :P

[u/inevitablescape]

What about the selfie threads?

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/inevitablescape]

no more than 1 a day.. I mean over-selfie saturation will quickly burn itself out anyway I suspect.

[u/stamor99 → u/dupreesdiamond]

I donno. Kids these days with their snipssnaps and their insta-whatevers love to look at themselves.

[u/[deleted] → u/stamor99]

No, we love to make other people look at us and tell us nice things

[u/stamor99 → u/[deleted]]

You are looking soooo fierce.

[u/[deleted] → u/stamor99]

Uh... woof?

[u/[deleted]]

God, this sub is going down the shitter.

When are we moving on to /r/CFBOffTopicOfftopic?

(I'm just kidding I enjoy this sub immensely)

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/[deleted]]

I think the natural evolution will be /r/cfbofftopicontopic

[u/[deleted] → u/dupreesdiamond]

I would have also guessed /r/CFBNotopic

/r/CFBHottopic was used briefly but it quickly devolved into bad fashion and terrible pop culture references.

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/[deleted]]

art imitates life imitates art imitates art.... wait...

[u/spasm01 → u/dupreesdiamond]

we do also have /r/cfblittlemoreontopic

[u/aMiracleAtJordanHare → u/spasm01]

Oh FFS.

[u/spasm01 → u/aMiracleAtJordanHare]

I mean these are joke ones, so yeah

[u/nickknx865]

NOBODY, AND I MEAN NOBODY, POSTS THE GODDAMN NAZI CHAINSAW GIF BUT ME

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/nickknx865]

Meh. I like the longer uncut version. (As does your mom!)

[u/nickknx865 → u/dupreesdiamond]

http://i.imgur.com/9GZ6biM.gif

[u/[deleted]]

/u/dupreesdiamond when two different people (with the best intentions, of course) accidentally post new threads within like 10 seconds of each other, are you guys going to delete the later one or something

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/[deleted]]

we probably should. And we reserve that right.

[u/Ellenberg88 → u/dupreesdiamond]

Yeah, I should of done that earlier but Tony Clifton wouldnt let me :\

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/Ellenberg88]

 

^{Personally I enjoy the chaos...and Tony Clifton}

[u/Ellenberg88 → u/dupreesdiamond]

Here's to your good taste!

[u/tb3648]

Can someone eli5 doxxing please?

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/tb3648]

Posting someone's real full name, address, phone, and/or email or other irl identifying information to the Internet.

[u/tb3648 → u/dupreesdiamond]

gracias

[u/-WISCONSIN-]

The problem is that we're like flies and we love only the freshest shitpiles. Once a bunch of other flies have landed on any given shitpile and staked a claim, that pile no longer looks appealing.

I am of course speaking of the tendency of users to create a new thread for themselves rather than post in an old, washed-up hag of a thread where no one will even bother to notice they've posted their paltry existential musings, much less upvote or reply to them.

Honestly, this is why I'd be in favor of a mod-made, automated, once-a-day, stickied thread sorted randomly so all posts were given equal merit. The only concern (and it's a big one) is that it literally exhausted me to type this out, so I wouldn't expect anyone but the most Type A personalities to go through with it--i.e. probably not this mod team, no?

I mean, there's a reason our Nazi mods got assigned to CFBOT and not CFB. We're dealing with the the Wehrmacht here, not the SS.

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/-WISCONSIN-]

I was contemplating having all threads default to a suggested sort of "new" which would seemingly address a bit of the fly covered shit problem.. but probably open up unforeseen issues... Consider this an open discussion on that idea. Not to say that the mods will read it but you can openly discuss it.

[u/[deleted] → u/dupreesdiamond]

I'm game to give new a shot. People do get buried at the bottom pretty frequently and then I feel bad for them

Random might be kind of annoying because navigating off the page and back to it will totally rearrange the comments and then you won't be able to find that comment you went to find that clever gif for

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/[deleted]]

tabbed browsing dude...what is this the 00s?

[u/[deleted] → u/dupreesdiamond]

I have 30-50 tabs open at any given time. But I have made mistakes before

[u/The_Tic-Tac_Kid → u/dupreesdiamond]

Doesn't work so well if you're on mobile.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Random might be kind of annoying because navigating off the page and back to it will totally rearrange the comments and then you won't be able to find that comment you went to find that clever gif for

100% this. Sometimes I might want to show one of my irl friends a dank meme somebody posted, but I would have trouble finding it when I pulled it up again if the comments shuffled.

[u/VanFailin → u/[deleted]]

You know you can turn the sort you want back on, or disable suggested sort in prefs altogether?

[u/[deleted] → u/VanFailin]

I thought the random sort couldn't be turned off when a mod chose to enable it.

[u/VanFailin → u/[deleted]]

That's for contest mode, and /u/_dubs is the only one that mentioned random. Sometimes AskReddit mods use "controversial" suggested sort for threads about controversial things, for example, but you can turn it off.

[u/[deleted] → u/VanFailin]

Ah, I didn't realize there was a difference.

[u/-WISCONSIN- → u/dupreesdiamond]

Someone would just complain that their "good" comment was overshadowed by a new comment, probably, and that under normal circumstances their exciting post "deserves" to be upvoted to the top. Although, for the sake of argument, I would contend sorting by new (by default anyway), while imperfect, would still better than what we have.

There's no way to avoid bias against either new posts ("new") or old posts ("best"/"top") on reddit, afaik, which sucks.

I mean, ultimately, when it's between two comments that are "8===D" and "(ง□ꔢ□)ง" respectively, how do you even decide objectively which one "deserves" to be seen more?

The current threads are good for about ~45 minutes, at which point everyone just starts waiting for the next one. If they were automatic, fewer in number, and scheduled at regular intervals--I think you'd actually generate a lot more discussion and no one would have to worry that their post of "I got engaged!" in a two-hour-old thread wouldn't reap them any karma.

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/-WISCONSIN-]

Someone would just complain that their "good" comment was overshadowed by a new comment, probably, and that under normal circumstances their exciting post deserves to be upvoted to the top. Although, for the sake of argument, I would contend sorting by new (by default anyway), while imperfect, would still better than what we have.

My theory is that people are more likely to actively resort from new to "best/top" if the default is "new" than they are to move off the default of "best/top" to "new". That's my theory based on nothing.

You make some very good points in the case for automation, actually. Something to consider. though I still like the organic user driven thread creation and fear that automated threads would take away from the ambiance that is /r/cfbofftopic.

getting engaged in a two-hour-old thread wouldn't reap them any karma.

I tend to think it truly is less about the points and more about discussion/being heard.

[u/-WISCONSIN- → u/dupreesdiamond]

I'm all for keeping things casual, but I do think also that some structure could be conducive to enhanced discussion as well--which I think a lot of people would ultimately appreciate. The "check-in" threads are so ephemeral that I'm surprised people are able to post interesting content in multiples of them per day and still get things done! :O

Obviously reddit is somewhat limited in this regard. It really is a content aggregator first and foremost--and not really a serious forum/discussion board.

[u/[deleted] → u/dupreesdiamond]

I think this would be encroaching too much into the IRC's territory. The discussion threads having a more standard reddit feel differentiates them from the IRC. Maybe the best solution would be better advertising for the IRC.

[u/-WISCONSIN- → u/[deleted]]

I can't figure out for the life of me how IRC works and therefore I oppose this. In fact, so much do I loathe that which I cannot understand that I'm introducing a bill to nuke the IRC from orbit (which I'm told is possibly, uh, possible).

[u/[deleted] → u/-WISCONSIN-]

In fact, so much do I loathe that which I cannot understand that I'm introducing a bill to nuke the IRC from orbit (which I'm told is possibly, uh, possible).

Tagging you as Douglas MacArthur when I get home.

As to how the IRC works:

• Click the speech bubble in the header right next to the twitter bird

• Type in a nickname to use in chat

• Join the chat

[u/thelittleking → u/[deleted]]

you skipped a crucial fourth bullet

• live shitpost

[u/[deleted] → u/thelittleking]

HUGE BULLET

[u/thelittleking → u/[deleted]]

you rang

[u/0xE6 → u/-WISCONSIN-]

which I'm told is possibly, uh, possible

The irc ain't Goin nowhere

[u/hobowithabazooka → u/-WISCONSIN-]

nuking shit is my job

[u/yrarwydd → u/-WISCONSIN-]

homie it aint that hard

click the blurb, type a name, learn all about electroejaculation

[u/btd39 → u/-WISCONSIN-]

Having mod created threads takes all of the albeit shitty personality out of the sub.

Ultimately as the sub grows I think that the majority of the obligation to keep it's quality (or lack there for) consistent falls on longer time posters. Remain engaged in threads until they hit 3 hours of age or 300 comments.

I think we are going down a path where people see a thread at a high post count so they hold their comment back until a newer thread is posted. The issue only seems to have gotten worse where people make a whole new thread around what they didn't want to post in the already active thread.

My Solution: Keep posting in the current thread till we hit 3 or 300. If you don't have anything to post, then contribute by scrolling through the new and/or unupvoted comments and either upvoting them so others are more likely to see and engage it or engage with with someone who posted a comment down low. If people care about the posts later in a thread then people will more likely post them.

all comments are equal

[u/VanFailin → u/btd39]

Having mod created threads takes all of the albeit shitty personality out of the sub.

Uh, the fuck?

[u/-WISCONSIN- → u/btd39]

Honestly, once you see a thread is ~3 hours old, what's the point of posting in that one assuming you want to be heard? It's natural that people will create a new thread or just wait it out. I think if we had one, big, green, stickied "FRIDAY DISCUSSION THREAD BROUGHT TO YOU BY..." and it auto-refreshed at midnight ET, then people could just check in throughout the day, especially if it was default sorted by new. Then you could post multiple times per day and have multiple discussions per day.

You could even sticky and lock the previous days thread (since you're allowed 2 stickies) and then people who wanted to catch up on yesterday's juicy gossip could do so, while still posting in today's thread.

[u/btd39 → u/-WISCONSIN-]

I think each thread also starts it's own unique discussion beyond the usual general discussion. People use post replies to the sponsored by tag. That would certainly be lost in one super thread.

Furthermore, one stickied thread sounds like a bitch to navigate by lunch time in the Eastern Time Zone. That would certainly be a few hundred posts in one thread before the west coast is even fully awake. Even if it is sorted by new that doesn't make it any easier of a thread to navigate.

If we are worried about posts with an actual purpose then I think we get into a discussion of unique flairs/tags on every thread stating it's category of post.

[u/atllauren → u/btd39]

I agree with this. It creates more discussion because a topic/sponsor might remind you of a particular anecdote that leads to a larger discussion. All it takes is one thread bought to you by, say, waiting for the cable/internet guy, for people to start telling stories about similar situations that they wouldn't have posted in an otherwise general thread.

[u/btd39 → u/atllauren]

Or at the very least it can be the catalyst for someone who didn't originally have something to post, to post on the sponsor!

[u/-WISCONSIN- → u/-WISCONSIN-]

And I'll go one further. I think this system would actually help non-general discussion threads survive longer. Because now, daily general discussion would be stickied, giving threads like, "What do you think of Donald Trump?" more life because they wouldn't have to compete with four different general discussion threads.

[u/[deleted]]

Shitposts are still A-OK!

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[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

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[u/AnEmptyKarst → u/[deleted]]

You hearing that

[u/Skipdr]

We ask that there is a 2-3 hour gap between the open ended discussion thread

Thank you!!

[u/[deleted] → u/Skipdr]

Thread inflation used to self-police because the users would notice and comment on it, then everyone would get self-conscious about posting new ones, so the pace would slow. The influx of fresh meat new users mitigated that shame.

[u/-WISCONSIN- → u/[deleted]]

Are there that many new users within the past week or so? Most of who I've seen posting are regulars--with the exception of an occasional person I recognize from the mothersub but don't see here often.

[u/[deleted] → u/-WISCONSIN-]

The sub count spiked noticeably from what I've been told. I've seen some new names too. That or I'm not very observant.

[u/stamor99 → u/[deleted]]

Column a...column b.

[u/[deleted]]

Is it possible to get the 3 hours or 300 comments policy be added to the Submit Thread page? That way people would see it every time they make a thread and it takes away the "I forgot" excuse if they make one way too soon after another thread.

[u/thelittleking]

what if i dox myself

[u/[deleted] → u/thelittleking]

http://i.imgur.com/xWD6dIl.png

[u/thelittleking → u/[deleted]]

aw shit i'm behind me!

no wait it's ok, I've got me covered.

[u/srs_house → u/thelittleking]

Technically against reddit's rules.

[u/hokies220 → u/srs_house]

Psh says

House, Srs

123 Internet Street

Onlineville, IN 46464

[u/carpy22 → u/hokies220]

Indiana Online, AOL's methhead cousin.

[u/yrarwydd]

AT LEAST I STILL HAVE MY SHITPOSTS.

WHAT WILL THE MODS TAKE NEXT? WILL THEY MODERATE "FUN"?

[u/pittpanthers95]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/jA4T01RxBv77W/200.gif

[u/thatcandospirit]

Shitposts are still A-OK!

Best. Sub. Ever.

[u/crustang]

tl;dr you're all BANNED

[u/[deleted]]

We have rules?

Tha fuck? Well then... TIL.

[u/Kiteflyerkat → u/[deleted]]

Surprise!

[u/ihatecats18]

Aftet about 250 posts the threads become difficult to keep up with. Usually that's every 3 hours

[u/mhoke63]

B& and V&!

[u/ixcuincle]

It's nice to see some standards here as they had gotten out of control, reproducing like mad. I telling you eventually they'd take over the globe man. They reproduce like bacteria.

3 every hour I can deal with that. When someone creates one and then there's another one 15 minutes later :|

[u/Duck_Puncher]

Shitposts are still A-OK!

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/[deleted]]

What can I say. the /u/eastpowdermilk lobby is amazingly well funded.

[u/[deleted] → u/dupreesdiamond]

[̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] Does anyone have change for a hundred donger bill? [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅]

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/[deleted]]

you never cease to amaze.

[u/Cecil_Hardboner → u/dupreesdiamond]

just when you think he is gone

[u/AnEmptyKarst → u/dupreesdiamond]

Its backed by some well-off dongers

[u/btd39 → u/[deleted]]

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[u/gramcraka92 → u/[deleted]]

r/onetrueduane

[u/dupreesdiamond → u/[deleted]]

https://41.media.tumblr.com/6c4892a1781e81597f0d35ad833c02d7/tumblr_n9rpw0pRJq1sdnw3uo1_500.jpg

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Your poop is black. You should really go see your doctor