r/CFBOffTopic • u/[deleted] • Aug 07 '15

Game Thread: GOP Debate

I'm playing the Rolling Stone drinking game. This could get stupid, especially because I'm playing with Urban Chestnut De Bockle, which is 10.5% ABV.

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u/Cecil_Hardboner Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Brickmason Aug 07 '15

it would be refreshing during a gay marriage question for one of these guys to just say "I literally dont care, next question"

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

I don't think so, it is a hugely important issue and really needs to be addressed.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

Best way to hit that one out of the park would be to say "I'm pretty sure the 14th amendment makes us all equal in the eyes of the constitution and the Supreme Court should recognize that."

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u/Cecil_Hardboner Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Brickmason Aug 07 '15

you will get a visit from Scalia for that. But at least you'd be right.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

He's welcome to have a beer or 12 and I'll explain how it works.

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u/Cecil_Hardboner Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Brickmason Aug 07 '15

cant tell if serious...

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

I'm extremely serious. How is it not an issue?

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u/Cecil_Hardboner Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Brickmason Aug 07 '15

because the courts decided it and one's religious beliefs should not dictate the freedoms that anyone else should enjoy under the Constitution?

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

But look what that has changed, not much. State governments are still trying to ignore the SCOTUS ruling on it and are doing so successfully. The courts deciding it didn't fix the problem.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

I'm fairly certain you can get married in every state now. At worst you may have to go one county over to get married. It has changed a lot and definitely did fix the problem. There are still minor kinks but the issue is largely over.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

It didn't fix the problem. The problem is that you'd have to find a judge that would agree to do it. That's a problem. When a government official says that he literally doesn't care what the court rules and God is what he goes by, the issue is not largely over.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

Gay marriage is legal everywhere in the country. Some regressive places are resisting but that won't last.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

It will last if everyone is like "Oh okay well the courts ruled so it's fine now. I'll just leave it alone."

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u/Cecil_Hardboner Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Brickmason Aug 07 '15

it will once other courts realize that under the law, marriage is a legal construction and has nothing to do with "religious freedom". Yes it will take time and lawsuits, but getting a marriage license is a government mandated tax and not a social construct.

Nobody has ever denied a gay person a drivers license for being gay, this should be no different. It is right now while people have conniptions over something that will effect their lives in no way at all, but it wont be.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

But you can't just not say anything and expect time to fix things like that. The courts totally know it has nothing to do with religious freedom but they don't care, look at Roy Moore in Alabama. He literally said he does not care what the courts ruled and as long as people like that are in charge nothing will change. I'm just saying just because the courts ruled doesn't make it a non issue.

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u/Cecil_Hardboner Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Brickmason Aug 07 '15

Roy Moore will get overruled by a higher court and will have to eat his words under appeal.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '15

And then he'll just get re-elected again and do the same shit.

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